All Blacks XV 2022
-
@Duluth said in All Blacks XV:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:
I would hope that whoever coaches side recognises it's about improving depth at a national level and working alongside the All Blacks team. Any other reaction from a potential coach would be petty, short sighted and IMO disqualifying from the top job
Yep, what I said and meant doesn't contradict that. There needs to be coordination, cooperation and discussion between the two coaching groups. But that doesn't mean that the ABs coaches should take the decisions for this team as regards the selection of the (entire) team or how the team plays (game plan).
Of course the AB selectors should be picking this team too.
I disagree with that. Obviously, the two head coaches would discuss selections, coordinate fringe ABs getting game time for the ABs XV, but otherwise the coach of this team should be able to pick the players himself. The ABs coaches could decide what important skills they'd want to develop in players and - in a general way - what kind of game strategies they'd want to develop (for example, to counter a rush defence), but it should be up to the coach of this team of how this should be implemented for this team and how that translates into a game plan. On a meta level, sure, the ABs coaches decide what they want, but at a team level, they should leave it to the coach of this team.
If Robertson is tapped I'm sure he would do fine and be a team player
Again, what I said and meant doesn't contradict this.
-
@Stargazer the only reason this team exists is to build depth for the All Blacks.
Everything they do should be driven by whoever is the AB coach.
@Kirwan said in All Blacks XV:
@Stargazer the only reason this team exists is to build depth for the All Blacks.
Everything they do should be driven by whoever is the AB coach.
It would be mad if this team wasn't selected by / with significant input from the AB coaches / selectors.
I assume that everyone wanting to blow Robertson will change their minds about that if he gets made the AB coach.
-
@Chris said in All Blacks XV:
Will be fascinating to see who they do pick and see people on the Ferns opinions on who they should select in the squad.
So in theory we will have what 60 players touring at the end of the year between the two squads? That is 4 starting Super Rugby teams
But a good way to continue development and build skills etc.
@chimoaus said in All Blacks XV:
@Chris said in All Blacks XV:
Will be fascinating to see who they do pick and see people on the Ferns opinions on who they should select in the squad.
So in theory we will have what 60 players touring at the end of the year between the two squads? That is 4 starting Super Rugby teams
But a good way to continue development and build skills etc.
I can see too many Canes and Chiefs already….
-
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks XV:
Future AB's coaching group right there? So clearly Razor has not been asked to coach the AB XV, maybe Fozzie has his eyes on Hammett and Holland?
-
So some likely names based on the current ABs squad;
I’d say there will be one or two youngsters the coaches have their eyes on, that will surprise.
And yes I will have missed some obvious names.Hodgman
De Groot
Williams
Norris
Eklund
Aumua
Goodhue
Dickson
IWL
Tucker
Robinson
Grace
Harmon
MMT
Frizzell
Choat
Weber
Ratima
A Nother 9 (probably TJP)
Ioane
DMac
Plummer (struggling for 10’s)
Nankivell
PUJ
TUJ
Sullivan
Sullivan
Telea
Nareki -
So some likely names based on the current ABs squad;
I’d say there will be one or two youngsters the coaches have their eyes on, that will surprise.
And yes I will have missed some obvious names.Hodgman
De Groot
Williams
Norris
Eklund
Aumua
Goodhue
Dickson
IWL
Tucker
Robinson
Grace
Harmon
MMT
Frizzell
Choat
Weber
Ratima
A Nother 9 (probably TJP)
Ioane
DMac
Plummer (struggling for 10’s)
Nankivell
PUJ
TUJ
Sullivan
Sullivan
Telea
Nareki@Gunner would like to see Josh Moorby feature in there somewhere as another fullback/wing option, he’s had an excellent season.
-
So some likely names based on the current ABs squad;
I’d say there will be one or two youngsters the coaches have their eyes on, that will surprise.
And yes I will have missed some obvious names.Hodgman
De Groot
Williams
Norris
Eklund
Aumua
Goodhue
Dickson
IWL
Tucker
Robinson
Grace
Harmon
MMT
Frizzell
Choat
Weber
Ratima
A Nother 9 (probably TJP)
Ioane
DMac
Plummer (struggling for 10’s)
Nankivell
PUJ
TUJ
Sullivan
Sullivan
Telea
Nareki@Gunner said in All Blacks XV:
And yes I will have missed some obvious names.
you have indeed, you should hand in your Northland card
Although I expect where you have doubled down, you meant someone else....
-
@Gunner said in All Blacks XV:
And yes I will have missed some obvious names.
you have indeed, you should hand in your Northland card
Although I expect where you have doubled down, you meant someone else....
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:
@Gunner said in All Blacks XV:
And yes I will have missed some obvious names.
you have indeed, you should hand in your Northland card
Although I expect where you have doubled down, you meant someone else....
So Jack isn't moving into the forwards?
I am assuming Nowell = Norris. Add Jacobson to the loose forwards.
-
@Gunner said in All Blacks XV:
And yes I will have missed some obvious names.
you have indeed, you should hand in your Northland card
Although I expect where you have doubled down, you meant someone else....
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:
@Gunner said in All Blacks XV:
And yes I will have missed some obvious names.
you have indeed, you should hand in your Northland card
Although I expect where you have doubled down, you meant someone else....
Indeed, I could have sworn I typed Robinson…
-
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:
@Gunner said in All Blacks XV:
And yes I will have missed some obvious names.
you have indeed, you should hand in your Northland card
Although I expect where you have doubled down, you meant someone else....
So Jack isn't moving into the forwards?
I am assuming Nowell = Norris. Add Jacobson to the loose forwards.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:
@Gunner said in All Blacks XV:
And yes I will have missed some obvious names.
you have indeed, you should hand in your Northland card
Although I expect where you have doubled down, you meant someone else....
I am assuming Nowell = Norris
Yea
️ -
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks XV:
Future AB's coaching group right there? So clearly Razor has not been asked to coach the AB XV, maybe Fozzie has his eyes on Hammett and Holland?
@chimoaus said in All Blacks XV:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks XV:
Future AB's coaching group right there? So clearly Razor has not been asked to coach the AB XV, maybe Fozzie has his eyes on Hammett and Holland?
Can’t have an ABs XV team showing up Foster’s lack of innovation XV! Hopefully this is incorrect
-
@Gunner one name you’ve missed and would probably be captain for a side like this, Jacobson.
-
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks XV:
I'm inclined to believe NZR didn't approach Robertson before coming up with the XV concept.
-
-
@mariner4life said in All Blacks XV:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks XV:
The left foot doesn't know what the right foot is doing.
There has been plenty of bagging of foster, but it's Robinson and the board who are letting the side down. You look at the Blues, and it was the changes at the top that have driven improvement through the organization.
-
So some likely names based on the current ABs squad;
I’d say there will be one or two youngsters the coaches have their eyes on, that will surprise.
And yes I will have missed some obvious names.Hodgman
De Groot
Williams
Norris
Eklund
Aumua
Goodhue
Dickson
IWL
Tucker
Robinson
Grace
Harmon
MMT
Frizzell
Choat
Weber
Ratima
A Nother 9 (probably TJP)
Ioane
DMac
Plummer (struggling for 10’s)
Nankivell
PUJ
TUJ
Sullivan
Sullivan
Telea
Nareki -
Just read that All Blacks XV (A) team is to tour Canada and Europe for a few games later in year.
New Zealand Rugby’s (NZR) newest Team in Black, the All Blacks XV, will embark on a 3-week global tour playing in North America, the UK and Europe. Matches against Canada and the Barbarians have been confirmed, with two additional high profile matches to be announced soon.
great news in my opinion, give the fringe players something to help push their case! Razor to get coaching gig?
