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All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test

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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    Far out I'm glad we control World Rugby as that deserves a citing

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

    Far out I'm glad we control World Rugby as that deserves a citing

    The ghost of Paddy O’Brien lives on!

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    • Dan54D Dan54

      @Duluth said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      So Retallick/Barrett with Lord on the bench?

      Lord is out for year. Guess it means Barrett to lock, Akira to 6?

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      @Dan54 said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @Duluth said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      So Retallick/Barrett with Lord on the bench?

      Lord is out for year. Guess it means Barrett to lock, Akira to 6?

      really? i'd missed it was that serious

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        I’d bring one of the Maori locks in for cover. Both of them acquitted themselves pretty well in that first tour match.

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        • Chris B.C Online
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          Quinten Strange won't be far away.

          Fozzie has picked him previously, he got injured before getting a game.

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            @Bovidae Hmmm that suggests Ioane's foot might still be a problem

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            @Duluth said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

            @Bovidae Hmmm that suggests Ioane's foot might still be a problem

            It could just be to make up numbers for training, and the location.

            Tuipulotu was with the ABs in Auckland so they (the coaches) will know if he is ready to be a reserve.

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              Quinten Strange won't be far away.

              Fozzie has picked him previously, he got injured before getting a game.

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              @Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

              Quinten Strange won't be far away.

              Fozzie has picked him previously, he got injured before getting a game.

              Never seen him stand out at Super level. Seems hyped.

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              • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                My take is that if Patty T gets through training and demonstrates he has the fitness then he’s on the bench. Dickson is match fit ready to go if he’s not.

                Frizell is for training purposes only as they’ll need a blindside to run against the starters with Barrett moving to lock for training and PGS or Papali’i will run with the starters at 6. All assuming Ioane is not doing full contact training

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                • F Frank

                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                  Quinten Strange won't be far away.

                  Fozzie has picked him previously, he got injured before getting a game.

                  Never seen him stand out at Super level. Seems hyped.

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                  @Frank You're picking Gallagher above, but once Quinten was fit again for the Crusaders, Razor picked him as the bench lock for the Super final.

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                    Under the 12-day World Rugby stand down protocols, Whitelock is now expected to be unavailable for the remainder of the series.

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-ireland-sam-whitelock-and-tupou-vaai-ruled-out-of-second-test-in-dunedin/5RBSOT4NOWB43D476GY24RBM7U/

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @Duluth Lord was ruled out a few days after squad naming wasnt he?

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                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                      @Duluth Lord was ruled out a few days after squad naming wasnt he?

                      Jeez so we go from 3 locks in the starting XV, to having to bring a player straight from Japan on the bench!

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Under the 12-day World Rugby stand down protocols, Whitelock is now expected to be unavailable for the remainder of the series.

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-ireland-sam-whitelock-and-tupou-vaai-ruled-out-of-second-test-in-dunedin/5RBSOT4NOWB43D476GY24RBM7U/

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                        @Tim I was just going to post that Whitelock would be out of the 3rd test too. Hopefully Vaa'i is back early next week to be available for Wellington.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @Frank You're picking Gallagher above, but once Quinten was fit again for the Crusaders, Razor picked him as the bench lock for the Super final.

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                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                          @Frank You're picking Gallagher above, but once Quinten was fit again for the Crusaders, Razor picked him as the bench lock for the Super final.

                          What does he know? I'm on the Fern.

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                            Actually curious that given we had three locks also play in the MAB team (2 starting and one reserve) who also played well that none were considered

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                            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                              @Crucial you still have to enter the ruck through the gate, like the Irish player is…SB has just walked up to the side or the ruck and touched it

                              He’s either bound legally but entered illegally or he’s not bound and offside

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                              @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                              @Crucial you still have to enter the ruck through the gate, like the Irish player is…SB has just walked up to the side or the ruck and touched it

                              He’s either bound legally but entered illegally or he’s not bound and offside

                              Must be a Taranaki gate

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                                Whitelock is a big out for us given his high tackle rate and the fact he’s an 80 minute player. Assuming Ioane is still out I think we have to play Papali’i at 6 as a high workrate option.

                                Although I wonder if Fozzie is thinking of throwing Patty T straight into the starting lineup and leaving Barrett at blindside. Get 40-50 minutes out of Patty T and then bring on the impact?

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  From Stuff: (I have corrected their typo).

                                  Highlanders Josh Dickson and Shannon Frizell are training with the All Blacks but are not part of the official squad.

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                                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                  From Stuff: (I have corrected their typo).

                                  Highlanders Josh Dickson and Shannon Frizell are training with the All Blacks but are not part of the official squad.

                                  Well that f-ing sucks, that Frizell is still in the equation - I'd rather they bring in Grace, Jacobson or MMT.

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                                  • NepiaN Nepia

                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                    From Stuff: (I have corrected their typo).

                                    Highlanders Josh Dickson and Shannon Frizell are training with the All Blacks but are not part of the official squad.

                                    Well that f-ing sucks, that Frizell is still in the equation - I'd rather they bring in Grace, Jacobson or MMT.

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                                    @Nepia Grace would be prepping for the Maori match and given they are down south they just need someone to run so went with a local that knows the stuff to run against the starters.

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @Nepia Grace would be prepping for the Maori match and given they are down south they just need someone to run so went with a local that knows the stuff to run against the starters.

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                      @Nepia Grace would be prepping for the Maori match and given they are down south they just need someone to run so went with a local that knows the stuff to run against the starters.

                                      Dickson is in the same boat with the Maori. And for the local, I covered that with the part local MMT. 😉

                                      I actually wouldn't be surprised if he was selected to start at 6 this week. Angry yep.

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                                        Whitelock is a big out for us given his high tackle rate and the fact he’s an 80 minute player. Assuming Ioane is still out I think we have to play Papali’i at 6 as a high workrate option.

                                        Although I wonder if Fozzie is thinking of throwing Patty T straight into the starting lineup and leaving Barrett at blindside. Get 40-50 minutes out of Patty T and then bring on the impact?

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                                        @ACT-Crusader Pat T & Brodie...yikes.

                                        But yeah, this probably forces some shuffling in the lock / loosie dept.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                          @Nepia Grace would be prepping for the Maori match and given they are down south they just need someone to run so went with a local that knows the stuff to run against the starters.

                                          Dickson is in the same boat with the Maori. And for the local, I covered that with the part local MMT. 😉

                                          I actually wouldn't be surprised if he was selected to start at 6 this week. Angry yep.

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                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                          @Nepia Grace would be prepping for the Maori match and given they are down south they just need someone to run so went with a local that knows the stuff to run against the starters.

                                          Dickson is in the same boat with the Maori. And for the local, I covered that with the part local MMT. 😉

                                          I actually wouldn't be surprised if he was selected to start at 6 this week. Angry yep.

                                          I think Big Peter Gus will be starting now.

                                          But, if something happens to him in the next few days - and assuming Akira's foot isn't 100% then Shannon is another big body and familiar with the systems.

                                          So, "training with the squad but not part of it".

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