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All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @mariner4life isn't that the beauty of the fern? i would say even the worse AB was an order of magnitude better than any of us...but we call them shit and we'd all put on the Black jersey in a heartbeat if asked

    I've played against that level of player a few times and it is just so quickly rammed home to you how far out of.your league they are. Harder, faster, meaner, they play another game

    But fuck yes I will keyboard warrior the shit out of them, because I'm not comparing them to me, I'm comparing them to their peers

    Clean a ruck Ardie you faerie!!

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

    I've played against that level of player a few times and it is just so quickly rammed home to you how far out of.your league they are. Harder, faster, meaner, they play another game

    A bit OT, but I once sat next seat bar one to Colin Meads on a flight from Hamilton to Wellington in the late '70's. Bugger me, he looked scary.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @booboo said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      3 weeks ago we picked 5 locks, now we have 2, after 1 game. That's quite the attrition rate.

      One assumes Patty T will come straight on to the bench. God help us if one of the starters goes down early.

      Didn't you play lock bro? Time to book a flight...

      Lol considering even at my playing weight I was about thr size of Ben Smith this place would fucking erupt

      I mean, even I would log in to rubbish my selection

      Don't think it'd only be about your weight though

      Fuck you!!

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      @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @booboo said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @voodoo said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      3 weeks ago we picked 5 locks, now we have 2, after 1 game. That's quite the attrition rate.

      One assumes Patty T will come straight on to the bench. God help us if one of the starters goes down early.

      Didn't you play lock bro? Time to book a flight...

      Lol considering even at my playing weight I was about thr size of Ben Smith this place would fucking erupt

      I mean, even I would log in to rubbish my selection

      Don't think it'd only be about your weight though

      Fuck you!!

      I hope you realise you're talking to THE Booboo who picked up and dumped Mark Cooksley* on his arse. More than once.

      But yeah, All Blacks are generally All Blacks for a reason.

      My favourite is when I played against Daryl Mitchell's dad in a Waikato club rugby semi final...

      ... like where the fuck is the ball? How the fuck did he do that? ...

      • noting it only Mark Cooksley ...
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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

        @Victor-Meldrew forget them, I bet he weighs less than Rieko, and we know how quick he is!

        Right now I probably weigh the same as Aaron Smith so I'll be smoking any linebreaks

        Assuming my spine is still in place of course

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        @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

        @Victor-Meldrew forget them, I bet he weighs less than Rieko, and we know how quick he is!

        Right now I probably weigh the same as Aaron Smith so I'll be smoking any linebreaks

        Assuming my spine is still in place of course

        Lucky prick.

        I'm probably about Dalton Papali’i... about 6cm shorter ...

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        • DiceD Dice

          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

          @Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition

          Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.

          I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.

          I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.

          I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
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          I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think the most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.

          Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.

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          @Dice said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

          @Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition

          Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.

          I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.

          I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.

          I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
          alt text

          I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think the most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.

          Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.

          No second look in real time and no citing is a fucking joke

          Unless the Irish are hoping

          1. SB is picked for Saturday
          2. He does it again
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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            @Dice said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

            @Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition

            Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.

            I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.

            I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.

            I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
            alt text

            I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think the most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.

            Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.

            No second look in real time and no citing is a fucking joke

            Unless the Irish are hoping

            1. SB is picked for Saturday
            2. He does it again
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            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

            @Dice said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

            @Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition

            Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.

            I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.

            I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.

            I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
            alt text

            I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think the most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.

            Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.

            No second look in real time and no citing is a fucking joke

            Looks worse the more times you see it. I hope Foz makes SB watch that all day everyday to try and stop that shit

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @mariner4life isn't that the beauty of the fern? i would say even the worse AB was an order of magnitude better than any of us...but we call them shit and we'd all put on the Black jersey in a heartbeat if asked

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              @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

              @mariner4life isn't that the beauty of the fern? i would say even the worse AB was an order of magnitude better than any of us...but we call them shit and we'd all put on the Black jersey in a heartbeat if asked

              I have a recurring dream where I’m trying to find excuses not to train after telling Steve Hanson I’m past it!

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @Victor-Meldrew He's not the man they think he is at home Oh, no, no, no....

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                @Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @Victor-Meldrew He's not the man they think he is at home Oh, no, no, no....

                Elton John ft Dua lipa?

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                  @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                  @mariner4life isn't that the beauty of the fern? i would say even the worse AB was an order of magnitude better than any of us...but we call them shit and we'd all put on the Black jersey in a heartbeat if asked

                  I have a recurring dream where I’m trying to find excuses not to train after telling Steve Hanson I’m past it!

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                  @pakman said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                  I have a recurring dream where I’m trying to find excuses

                  Had those for years.

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @pakman said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                    I have a recurring dream where I’m trying to find excuses

                    Had those for years.

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                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                    @pakman said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                    I have a recurring dream where I’m trying to find excuses

                    Had those for years.

                    They weren't dreams

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                    • GrooterG Grooter

                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                      @Victor-Meldrew He's not the man they think he is at home Oh, no, no, no....

                      Elton John ft Dua lipa?

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                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-ireland-ian-fosters-five-big-selection-dilemmas-for-second-test-the-sauce-with-liam-napier/WWPJCBBXKBYNUOAM2UQVP6LD2Q/

                          I spoke with Havili on Tuesday and he described his Covid experience as a head cold, declaring himself ready to go this week.

                          Caleb Clarke is yet to resume full training after the hamstring strain he suffered six weeks ago with the Blues.

                          Akira Ioane was held back last week due to a lingering foot injury but after finishing 2021 as the incumbent blindside, he is likely to slot into that role this week.

                          Possible All Blacks squad: George Bower, Codie Taylor, Ofa Tuungafasi, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Akira Ioane, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith, Beauden Barrett, Sevu Reece, David Havili, Rieko Ioane, Will Jordan, Jordie Barrett

                          Reserves: Samisoni Taukei'aho, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Angus Ta'avao, Patrick Tuipulotu, Dalton Papalii, Folau Fakatava, Richie Mo'unga, Quinn Tupaea

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                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-ireland-ian-fosters-five-big-selection-dilemmas-for-second-test-the-sauce-with-liam-napier/WWPJCBBXKBYNUOAM2UQVP6LD2Q/

                            I spoke with Havili on Tuesday and he described his Covid experience as a head cold, declaring himself ready to go this week.

                            Caleb Clarke is yet to resume full training after the hamstring strain he suffered six weeks ago with the Blues.

                            Akira Ioane was held back last week due to a lingering foot injury but after finishing 2021 as the incumbent blindside, he is likely to slot into that role this week.

                            Possible All Blacks squad: George Bower, Codie Taylor, Ofa Tuungafasi, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Akira Ioane, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith, Beauden Barrett, Sevu Reece, David Havili, Rieko Ioane, Will Jordan, Jordie Barrett

                            Reserves: Samisoni Taukei'aho, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Angus Ta'avao, Patrick Tuipulotu, Dalton Papalii, Folau Fakatava, Richie Mo'unga, Quinn Tupaea

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                            @Tim be annoyed if they drop Tupaea for Havili, Tupaea earned another chance to start, Havili offers versatility so is actually a good option off the bench.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @Tim be annoyed if they drop Tupaea for Havili, Tupaea earned another chance to start, Havili offers versatility so is actually a good option off the bench.

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                              @taniwharugby yeah, these are the moments i feel use to be more common, something "happens" giving a new guy a shot (i know QT has played before)...he takes it and plays well and now its his to lose...i feel fozzie tends to go back to who he originally had in mind regardless of how the last game went resulting in the in and out of players we've seen over the last few years

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                                Foster has talked a lot about how this year they will be focusing on building combinations more compared to previous 2 seasons so it will be particularly interesting what he does at 12.

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                                  Forget the selections, check out the title of the article

                                  All Blacks v Ireland: Ian Foster's five big selection dilemmas for second test - The Sauce with Liam Napier

                                  That is flat out plagiarism from the Fern.

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                                    If QT gets dropped after that performance thrn these selectors can get fucked

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      If QT gets dropped after that performance thrn these selectors can get fucked

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                                      @mariner4life agreed

                                      we talk about the selections that are made based on experience and the jump from super to international...well we should reward those that make the jump successfully

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        If QT gets dropped after that performance thrn these selectors can get fucked

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                                        @mariner4life best back on the field on Saturday, definitely deserves another shot. I like the fact they are trying Jordie Barrett late in the game at 12 aswell to give him experience there at international level.

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                                          But.....according to Fozzie, when talking about RTS, he wants his 2nd fives to have a "triple threat" - running, passing, kicking. If he has that in mind still, then he'll probably choose Havili. QT deserves another start though.

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