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All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Victor-Meldrew forget them, I bet he weighs less than Rieko, and we know how quick he is!

    Right now I probably weigh the same as Aaron Smith so I'll be smoking any linebreaks

    Assuming my spine is still in place of course

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Victor-Meldrew forget them, I bet he weighs less than Rieko, and we know how quick he is!

    Right now I probably weigh the same as Aaron Smith so I'll be smoking any linebreaks

    Assuming my spine is still in place of course

    Lucky prick.

    I'm probably about Dalton Papali’i... about 6cm shorter ...

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    • DiceD Dice

      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition

      Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.

      I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.

      I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.

      I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
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      I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think the most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.

      Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.

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      @Dice said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

      @Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition

      Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.

      I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.

      I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.

      I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
      alt text

      I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think the most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.

      Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.

      No second look in real time and no citing is a fucking joke

      Unless the Irish are hoping

      1. SB is picked for Saturday
      2. He does it again
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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        @Dice said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

        @Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition

        Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.

        I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.

        I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.

        I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
        alt text

        I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think the most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.

        Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.

        No second look in real time and no citing is a fucking joke

        Unless the Irish are hoping

        1. SB is picked for Saturday
        2. He does it again
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        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

        @Dice said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

        @Dan54 in that situation, it wasnt like a split second decision that he mis-timed and accidentally collected the guys head like so many of the cards we have seen this year...he was in an off side position, both his height and where he was attacking, he was always going to be hitting high on the opposition

        Risk vs reward, which in that case, risk far outweighed the reward...but, he got lucky, lucky the Irish player ducked his head when he did, meaning nothing came of it.

        I like him as a player, think he brings alot to the table, but he has cost us before, and it doesnt appear he has learnt a great deal, there is a fine line between controlled aggression and stupidity, he seems to be treading with a wide stance.

        I hope he doesnt do it again, or worse still, cost us again.

        I'm not sure if there is much of a duck, it just looks like Scott's contact makes his head fold in.
        alt text

        I think there is some head contact before hitting the shoulder, but I think the most dangerous part is how it ends up being like a crusher tackle. You can see Scott's weight on top of O'Mahony's head/neck which jams his head in. Not surprised when O'Mahony gets up he clutches the back of his neck a couple of times.

        Add in the no arms, offside and coming from the side, and it's just all round silly.

        No second look in real time and no citing is a fucking joke

        Looks worse the more times you see it. I hope Foz makes SB watch that all day everyday to try and stop that shit

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          @mariner4life isn't that the beauty of the fern? i would say even the worse AB was an order of magnitude better than any of us...but we call them shit and we'd all put on the Black jersey in a heartbeat if asked

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          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

          @mariner4life isn't that the beauty of the fern? i would say even the worse AB was an order of magnitude better than any of us...but we call them shit and we'd all put on the Black jersey in a heartbeat if asked

          I have a recurring dream where I’m trying to find excuses not to train after telling Steve Hanson I’m past it!

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @Victor-Meldrew He's not the man they think he is at home Oh, no, no, no....

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            @Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

            @Victor-Meldrew He's not the man they think he is at home Oh, no, no, no....

            Elton John ft Dua lipa?

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              @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

              @mariner4life isn't that the beauty of the fern? i would say even the worse AB was an order of magnitude better than any of us...but we call them shit and we'd all put on the Black jersey in a heartbeat if asked

              I have a recurring dream where I’m trying to find excuses not to train after telling Steve Hanson I’m past it!

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              @pakman said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

              I have a recurring dream where I’m trying to find excuses

              Had those for years.

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                @pakman said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                I have a recurring dream where I’m trying to find excuses

                Had those for years.

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                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                @pakman said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                I have a recurring dream where I’m trying to find excuses

                Had those for years.

                They weren't dreams

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                • GrooterG Grooter

                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks Vs Ireland - 2nd Test:

                  @Victor-Meldrew He's not the man they think he is at home Oh, no, no, no....

                  Elton John ft Dua lipa?

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                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-ireland-ian-fosters-five-big-selection-dilemmas-for-second-test-the-sauce-with-liam-napier/WWPJCBBXKBYNUOAM2UQVP6LD2Q/

                      I spoke with Havili on Tuesday and he described his Covid experience as a head cold, declaring himself ready to go this week.

                      Caleb Clarke is yet to resume full training after the hamstring strain he suffered six weeks ago with the Blues.

                      Akira Ioane was held back last week due to a lingering foot injury but after finishing 2021 as the incumbent blindside, he is likely to slot into that role this week.

                      Possible All Blacks squad: George Bower, Codie Taylor, Ofa Tuungafasi, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Akira Ioane, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith, Beauden Barrett, Sevu Reece, David Havili, Rieko Ioane, Will Jordan, Jordie Barrett

                      Reserves: Samisoni Taukei'aho, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Angus Ta'avao, Patrick Tuipulotu, Dalton Papalii, Folau Fakatava, Richie Mo'unga, Quinn Tupaea

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                      • TimT Tim

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-ireland-ian-fosters-five-big-selection-dilemmas-for-second-test-the-sauce-with-liam-napier/WWPJCBBXKBYNUOAM2UQVP6LD2Q/

                        I spoke with Havili on Tuesday and he described his Covid experience as a head cold, declaring himself ready to go this week.

                        Caleb Clarke is yet to resume full training after the hamstring strain he suffered six weeks ago with the Blues.

                        Akira Ioane was held back last week due to a lingering foot injury but after finishing 2021 as the incumbent blindside, he is likely to slot into that role this week.

                        Possible All Blacks squad: George Bower, Codie Taylor, Ofa Tuungafasi, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Akira Ioane, Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Aaron Smith, Beauden Barrett, Sevu Reece, David Havili, Rieko Ioane, Will Jordan, Jordie Barrett

                        Reserves: Samisoni Taukei'aho, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Angus Ta'avao, Patrick Tuipulotu, Dalton Papalii, Folau Fakatava, Richie Mo'unga, Quinn Tupaea

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                        @Tim be annoyed if they drop Tupaea for Havili, Tupaea earned another chance to start, Havili offers versatility so is actually a good option off the bench.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Tim be annoyed if they drop Tupaea for Havili, Tupaea earned another chance to start, Havili offers versatility so is actually a good option off the bench.

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                          @taniwharugby yeah, these are the moments i feel use to be more common, something "happens" giving a new guy a shot (i know QT has played before)...he takes it and plays well and now its his to lose...i feel fozzie tends to go back to who he originally had in mind regardless of how the last game went resulting in the in and out of players we've seen over the last few years

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                            Foster has talked a lot about how this year they will be focusing on building combinations more compared to previous 2 seasons so it will be particularly interesting what he does at 12.

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                              Forget the selections, check out the title of the article

                              All Blacks v Ireland: Ian Foster's five big selection dilemmas for second test - The Sauce with Liam Napier

                              That is flat out plagiarism from the Fern.

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                                If QT gets dropped after that performance thrn these selectors can get fucked

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  If QT gets dropped after that performance thrn these selectors can get fucked

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                                  @mariner4life agreed

                                  we talk about the selections that are made based on experience and the jump from super to international...well we should reward those that make the jump successfully

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    If QT gets dropped after that performance thrn these selectors can get fucked

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                                    @mariner4life best back on the field on Saturday, definitely deserves another shot. I like the fact they are trying Jordie Barrett late in the game at 12 aswell to give him experience there at international level.

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                                      But.....according to Fozzie, when talking about RTS, he wants his 2nd fives to have a "triple threat" - running, passing, kicking. If he has that in mind still, then he'll probably choose Havili. QT deserves another start though.

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                                        The problem with Napier's team is that if Havili starts I don't see the point of having Tupaea on the bench. Rieko would need to cover winger which means Havili or (more likely) Tupaea then moves out to centre. It would be better to just have Fainga’anuku on the bench (wing/centre) and use JB as the backup 2nd 5 if required. Less disruption.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @mariner4life best back on the field on Saturday, definitely deserves another shot. I like the fact they are trying Jordie Barrett late in the game at 12 aswell to give him experience there at international level.

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                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

                                          @mariner4life best back on the field on Saturday, definitely deserves another shot. I like the fact they are trying Jordie Barrett late in the game at 12 aswell to give him experience there at international level.

                                          He did ok, but best back on the field?

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