Stadium of Canterbury
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@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
kiwis also expect a lot..ballarat has over 100k population, so not much smaller than dunedin....ya dont see a 18k-30k covered stadium there
Yeah, the Otago region didn't need a stadium like the one they built. That was a silly amount of money for the region.
Yes, they needed to decommission Carisbrook and build a stadium within walking distance of where students live. But a roof was extravagant.Now Christchurch is feeling the need to compete with Dunedin. They have to have the best stadium in the South Island. There is some rationale to that too.. will Dunedin continue to get Test matches ahead of Christchurch etc?
Everything would be perfectly fine if Dunedin and Christchurch had just built stadiums like FMG Stadium in Hamilton
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Should they not just abandon the coveted idea? I only know 3 covered rugby stadia: Dunedin, Cardiff (optional) and Racing 92 in Paris. Go for 30000 uncovered and just get it done!
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Should they not just abandon the coveted idea? I only know 3 covered rugby stadia: Dunedin, Cardiff (optional) and Racing 92 in Paris. Go for 30000 uncovered and just get it done!
@Billy-Tell said in Stadium of Canterbury:
Should they not just abandon the coveted idea? I only know 3 covered rugby stadia: Dunedin, Cardiff (optional) and Racing 92 in Paris. Go for 30000 uncovered and just get it done!
at very least look at options where it could be added down the track
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https://ccc.govt.nz/the-council/haveyoursay/show/514
potentially should have been done a long time ago, will be interesting to see the results
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https://ccc.govt.nz/the-council/haveyoursay/show/514
potentially should have been done a long time ago, will be interesting to see the results
@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
https://ccc.govt.nz/the-council/haveyoursay/show/514
potentially should have been done a long time ago, will be interesting to see the results
Enough naysayers will now have a voice so I am expecting the project to at least be paused for further consultation. Christchurch ain't getting a stadium to be proud of.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
https://ccc.govt.nz/the-council/haveyoursay/show/514
potentially should have been done a long time ago, will be interesting to see the results
Enough naysayers will now have a voice so I am expecting the project to at least be paused for further consultation. Christchurch ain't getting a stadium to be proud of.
@Crazy-Horse said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
https://ccc.govt.nz/the-council/haveyoursay/show/514
potentially should have been done a long time ago, will be interesting to see the results
Enough naysayers will now have a voice so I am expecting the project to at least be paused for further consultation. Christchurch ain't getting a stadium
to be proud of.So a newer smaller cheaper design, taking how long to implement? Ten years?
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over 11k responses in 4 days, plenty of people having their say
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over 11k responses in 4 days, plenty of people having their say
@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
over 11k responses in 4 days, plenty of people having their say
It'll probably delay it by another decade just to go through all the responses
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25,000 people submitted.
and this got published too
https://businessdesk.co.nz/article/infrastructure/new-christchurch-stadium-report-raises-critical-issues-budget-concerns -
Christchurch City Council research analyst Aimee Martin said today 30,500 submissions had been received on the stadium project - and 77 per cent were in support of ratepayers putting in more money. -
Christchurch City Council research analyst Aimee Martin said today 30,500 submissions had been received on the stadium project - and 77 per cent were in support of ratepayers putting in more money.@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
Christchurch City Council research analyst Aimee Martin said today 30,500 submissions had been received on the stadium project - and 77 per cent were in support of ratepayers putting in more money.Wow I’m surprised, good news
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@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
Christchurch City Council research analyst Aimee Martin said today 30,500 submissions had been received on the stadium project - and 77 per cent were in support of ratepayers putting in more money.Wow I’m surprised, good news
@Machpants so am i if im honest
they do need to get on with it now, one way or the other, theyd probably cop less flak if theyd build a smaller or uncovered one ages ago rather than dangling this awesome option out there but not actually building it
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who would take on a fixed price contract in the current climate, unless your price is way above market?
Sure you price in contingencies, but the world be crazy and prices escalating, and the time frames involved here...
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129249542/fixedprice-contract-negotiated-for-christchurch-stadium
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who would take on a fixed price contract in the current climate, unless your price is way above market?
Sure you price in contingencies, but the world be crazy and prices escalating, and the time frames involved here...
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129249542/fixedprice-contract-negotiated-for-christchurch-stadium
@taniwharugby this is what the council probably wanted, get buy in for increasing the budget so they can get a fixed price negotiated and hand it all off to someone else, if it comes in under budget (ie wasted money) they get to say they asked and everyone was fine with it...and if it goes over then its the contractors problem
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who would take on a fixed price contract in the current climate, unless your price is way above market?
Sure you price in contingencies, but the world be crazy and prices escalating, and the time frames involved here...
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129249542/fixedprice-contract-negotiated-for-christchurch-stadium
@taniwharugby said in Stadium of Canterbury:
who would take on a fixed price contract in the current climate, unless your price is way above market?
Sure you price in contingencies, but the world be crazy and prices escalating, and the time frames involved here...
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129249542/fixedprice-contract-negotiated-for-christchurch-stadium
actually read it
Bragg said securing this contract meant there was a “very, very low” chance of ratepayers having to stump up more money in the future, if councillors decide to spend an additional $150 million now.not exactly "Fixed" then is it!
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If it’s fixed price and prices go up, the options are
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construction company makes a loss. They will do all they can to avoid this, so
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they use inferior quality (cheaper) materials and/or cut corners
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or they themselves negotiate fixed prices or discounts with suppliers…for suppliers then see 1 and 2
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Decision day happening at the moment.
I hope @shark is there supporting the cause (or what’s left of it)
It will be a disgrace if they don’t go ahead
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@Hooroo isn't it decided? i thought they'd agreed the new contract
@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Hooroo isn't it decided? i thought they'd agreed the new contract
Nah. They are deciding today. It’s live on stuff.
Non binery folk aren’t supportive, it appears. (This was in the submission a few moments ago)
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@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Hooroo isn't it decided? i thought they'd agreed the new contract
Nah. They are deciding today. It’s live on stuff.
Non binery folk aren’t supportive, it appears. (This was in the submission a few moments ago)
@Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@Hooroo isn't it decided? i thought they'd agreed the new contract
Nah. They are deciding today. It’s live on stuff.
Non binery folk aren’t supportive, it appears. (This was in the submission a few moments ago)
Interesting, you'd think that they wouldn't assume it as a yes / no distinction.
