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Stadium of Canterbury

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    #763

    25,000 people submitted.

    and this got published too
    https://businessdesk.co.nz/article/infrastructure/new-christchurch-stadium-report-raises-critical-issues-budget-concerns

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      Christchurch City Council research analyst Aimee Martin said today 30,500 submissions had been received on the stadium project - and 77 per cent were in support of ratepayers putting in more money.
      

      https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/submissions-show-strong-support-increasing-stadium-budget?fbclid=IwAR3fCDOpHPogW0NyD0PtknPwQhY97mtN44_e4YG4-LArLXL6wZB_3dNL768

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble
        Christchurch City Council research analyst Aimee Martin said today 30,500 submissions had been received on the stadium project - and 77 per cent were in support of ratepayers putting in more money.
        

        https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/submissions-show-strong-support-increasing-stadium-budget?fbclid=IwAR3fCDOpHPogW0NyD0PtknPwQhY97mtN44_e4YG4-LArLXL6wZB_3dNL768

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        @Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

        Christchurch City Council research analyst Aimee Martin said today 30,500 submissions had been received on the stadium project - and 77 per cent were in support of ratepayers putting in more money.
        

        https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/submissions-show-strong-support-increasing-stadium-budget?fbclid=IwAR3fCDOpHPogW0NyD0PtknPwQhY97mtN44_e4YG4-LArLXL6wZB_3dNL768

        Wow I’m surprised, good news

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        • M Machpants

          @Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

          Christchurch City Council research analyst Aimee Martin said today 30,500 submissions had been received on the stadium project - and 77 per cent were in support of ratepayers putting in more money.
          

          https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/submissions-show-strong-support-increasing-stadium-budget?fbclid=IwAR3fCDOpHPogW0NyD0PtknPwQhY97mtN44_e4YG4-LArLXL6wZB_3dNL768

          Wow I’m surprised, good news

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          Kiwiwomble
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          @Machpants so am i if im honest

          they do need to get on with it now, one way or the other, theyd probably cop less flak if theyd build a smaller or uncovered one ages ago rather than dangling this awesome option out there but not actually building it

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            #767

            who would take on a fixed price contract in the current climate, unless your price is way above market?

            Sure you price in contingencies, but the world be crazy and prices escalating, and the time frames involved here...

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129249542/fixedprice-contract-negotiated-for-christchurch-stadium

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              who would take on a fixed price contract in the current climate, unless your price is way above market?

              Sure you price in contingencies, but the world be crazy and prices escalating, and the time frames involved here...

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129249542/fixedprice-contract-negotiated-for-christchurch-stadium

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              @taniwharugby this is what the council probably wanted, get buy in for increasing the budget so they can get a fixed price negotiated and hand it all off to someone else, if it comes in under budget (ie wasted money) they get to say they asked and everyone was fine with it...and if it goes over then its the contractors problem

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                who would take on a fixed price contract in the current climate, unless your price is way above market?

                Sure you price in contingencies, but the world be crazy and prices escalating, and the time frames involved here...

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129249542/fixedprice-contract-negotiated-for-christchurch-stadium

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                @taniwharugby said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                who would take on a fixed price contract in the current climate, unless your price is way above market?

                Sure you price in contingencies, but the world be crazy and prices escalating, and the time frames involved here...

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129249542/fixedprice-contract-negotiated-for-christchurch-stadium

                actually read it

                Bragg said securing this contract meant there was a “very, very low” chance of ratepayers having to stump up more money in the future, if councillors decide to spend an additional $150 million now.
                

                not exactly "Fixed" then is it!

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                  If it’s fixed price and prices go up, the options are

                  1. construction company makes a loss. They will do all they can to avoid this, so

                  2. they use inferior quality (cheaper) materials and/or cut corners

                  3. or they themselves negotiate fixed prices or discounts with suppliers…for suppliers then see 1 and 2

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                    Hooroo
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                    Decision day happening at the moment.

                    I hope @shark is there supporting the cause (or what’s left of it)

                    It will be a disgrace if they don’t go ahead

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                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                      Decision day happening at the moment.

                      I hope @shark is there supporting the cause (or what’s left of it)

                      It will be a disgrace if they don’t go ahead

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                      @Hooroo isn't it decided? i thought they'd agreed the new contract

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        @Hooroo isn't it decided? i thought they'd agreed the new contract

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                        #773

                        @Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                        @Hooroo isn't it decided? i thought they'd agreed the new contract

                        Nah. They are deciding today. It’s live on stuff.

                        Non binery folk aren’t supportive, it appears. (This was in the submission a few moments ago)

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                        • HoorooH Hooroo

                          @Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                          @Hooroo isn't it decided? i thought they'd agreed the new contract

                          Nah. They are deciding today. It’s live on stuff.

                          Non binery folk aren’t supportive, it appears. (This was in the submission a few moments ago)

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                          @Hooroo said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                          @Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                          @Hooroo isn't it decided? i thought they'd agreed the new contract

                          Nah. They are deciding today. It’s live on stuff.

                          Non binery folk aren’t supportive, it appears. (This was in the submission a few moments ago)

                          Interesting, you'd think that they wouldn't assume it as a yes / no distinction.

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                          • HoorooH Offline
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                            Council voted 13:3 in favour of spending the “fixed” $683m

                            Yay. Build the damn thing

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                              #776

                              https://twitter.com/ChristchurchCC/status/1547423363923992576

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                              • nzzpN Offline
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                                That is a tremendous entertainment and terrible financial decision.

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  That is a tremendous entertainment and terrible financial decision.

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                                  @nzzp yeah...i imagine this thread will keep running with lots of things to talk about during construction

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                                    https://twitter.com/NZStuff/status/1614654975229190146

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      who would take on a fixed price contract in the current climate, unless your price is way above market?

                                      Sure you price in contingencies, but the world be crazy and prices escalating, and the time frames involved here...

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129249542/fixedprice-contract-negotiated-for-christchurch-stadium

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                                      @taniwharugby said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      who would take on a fixed price contract in the current climate, unless your price is way above market?

                                      Sure you price in contingencies, but the world be crazy and prices escalating, and the time frames involved here...

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129249542/fixedprice-contract-negotiated-for-christchurch-stadium

                                      From a business perspective that's the most stupid decision I have ever seen. If another price hike hits you have basically garenteed that your business is going down the drain. And at best the building company has garenteed that they won't make money on the job.

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                                        @taniwharugby said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                        who would take on a fixed price contract in the current climate, unless your price is way above market?

                                        Sure you price in contingencies, but the world be crazy and prices escalating, and the time frames involved here...

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/129249542/fixedprice-contract-negotiated-for-christchurch-stadium

                                        From a business perspective that's the most stupid decision I have ever seen. If another price hike hits you have basically garenteed that your business is going down the drain. And at best the building company has garenteed that they won't make money on the job.

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                                        Kiwiwomble
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                                        @Mackerzzzz thats not true, they have not guaranteed they wont make any money, they made the deal at the tail of covid when shipping materials was the hardest, lots to suggest they will become easier to source....and they will have hiked a huge premium onto the price to be locked in....the construction company is the last one im worried about

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                                          https://newsline.ccc.govt.nz/news/story/major-concrete-pours-for-te-kaha-to-begin-later-this-month

                                          https://www.te-kaha.co.nz/

                                          thought there might be some webcams or something but couldn't see any, regularly checked in on the webcams for Forsyth Barr

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