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All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider

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    so, yep, change at tighthead absolutely called for.
    No change at hooker bar getting rid of our best one is, interesting (again i assume he's hurt or sick)
    Whitelock in a no brainer
    The like SB at 6 so him going back there a no brainer
    Savea is the best player in the world so him staying a no brainer
    It was obvious to everyone that the reason we lost was QT played fucking shit so getting DH back in a no brainer
    Jordan had to play, no brainer.

    Bench picks itself given the above selections, except RTS which is, interesting to say the least

    we are nothing if not predictable.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

      All Blacks by 20 (assuming no red cards.. or the same amount of red cards to both sides)

      That was my pick last week too 🙂

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      @Kirwan

      The cards had a huge impact. A poor All Blacks side that played a bit shit tired them out and won by 23 in the first Test

      Keep 15 on the field and keep the game moving

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        We are tied in a test series and 4th on the rankings in world rugby, and while being a bit disppointed, not as disappointed as maybe the reaction on forums by so called AB supporters, there seems almost no credit given to Ireland for winning 2nd test, only tearing clothes and screaming about how poor ABs were, want to know something Irish were bloody good and made us look poor, and we 4th on rankings, prehaps French (in my opinion clearly best team), Ireland , and Boks (though I feel some of theirs is residual points from year off) just deserve to be in the positions they are in.

        I think the issue is not the losses so much, it's the manner of the losses/performances.

        If you look at things the ABs can control, things like their attacking shape, their defensive system, their kicking game, there are real problems there - the same problems that came up last year.

        There's almost no sign of progress or change being made with the ABs.

        Despite 12 months of superior form from Samisoni the likes of Codie Taylor are nailed on starters etc.

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        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

        We are tied in a test series and 4th on the rankings in world rugby, and while being a bit disppointed, not as disappointed as maybe the reaction on forums by so called AB supporters, there seems almost no credit given to Ireland for winning 2nd test, only tearing clothes and screaming about how poor ABs were, want to know something Irish were bloody good and made us look poor, and we 4th on rankings, prehaps French (in my opinion clearly best team), Ireland , and Boks (though I feel some of theirs is residual points from year off) just deserve to be in the positions they are in.

        I think the issue is not the losses so much, it's the manner of the losses/performances.

        If you look at things the ABs can control, things like their attacking shape, their defensive system, their kicking game, there are real problems there - the same problems that came up last year.

        There's almost no sign of progress or change being made with the ABs.

        Despite 12 months of superior form from Samisoni the likes of Codie Taylor are nailed on starters etc.

        Yep and that is more a sensible post, and not against them mate, just the rantings of many on here, and not looking at other good teams. , and their strengths. Irish are I still say a bloody good rugby team, and do think the NH do tend to be able to change game plans better than us, , and I think is helped by their club and 6N comps wheer they play such a variety of teams and styles week in and out. I also think we seeing the loss of SA from super starting to show.

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          Why start Nepo? It's not like our scrum creaks against Ireland with that second row pushing. And Nepo offers less than nothing around the ground.

          Hooker with the most impact can't get into the 23.

          Most ineffective blindside flanker to start.

          Greatest second half impact backrower starts.

          Sotutu must have a broken leg.

          At least Havili is there to straighten the line...

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            so, yep, change at tighthead absolutely called for.
            No change at hooker bar getting rid of our best one is, interesting (again i assume he's hurt or sick)
            Whitelock in a no brainer
            The like SB at 6 so him going back there a no brainer
            Savea is the best player in the world so him staying a no brainer
            It was obvious to everyone that the reason we lost was QT played fucking shit so getting DH back in a no brainer
            Jordan had to play, no brainer.

            Bench picks itself given the above selections, except RTS which is, interesting to say the least

            we are nothing if not predictable.

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            #242

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

            so, yep, change at tighthead absolutely called for.
            No change at hooker bar getting rid of our best one is, interesting (again i assume he's hurt or sick)
            Whitelock in a no brainer
            The like SB at 6 so him going back there a no brainer
            Savea is the best player in the world so him staying a no brainer
            It was obvious to everyone that the reason we lost was QT played fucking shit so getting DH back in a no brainer
            Jordan had to play, no brainer.

            Bench picks itself given the above selections, except RTS which is, interesting to say the least

            we are nothing if not predictable.

            I agree with Havili as he offers us versatily at 12 that perhaps Tupaea doesn't offer (and I a Tupaea fan), I too wonder if ST is injured or something(or is it scrumming?), though maybe we mssied something. I a little surprised that RTS is ahead of Goodhue in reserves, but again not sure how he has recovered from covid, some take a bit of getting over it.

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              Gone for experience. Mostly ok, would have had Jack for his defensive qualities starting. But if he doesn’t start then he won’t make the bench. RTS is just odd. Given his error rate, a big call.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                I wonder if Samisoni is injured.

                RTS in the 23 jersey is an upgrade on Ennor in the 23 jersey from test 1.

                Poor old Hoskins can't get a run.

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                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                I wonder if Samisoni is injured.

                That can be the only reason he isn't in the 23, or rightfully starting. Otherwise - WTF!!!

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                  I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                  ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @Kirwan

                    The cards had a huge impact. A poor All Blacks side that played a bit shit tired them out and won by 23 in the first Test

                    Keep 15 on the field and keep the game moving

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                    @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                    @Kirwan

                    The cards had a huge impact. A poor All Blacks side that played a bit shit tired them out and won by 23 in the first Test

                    Keep 15 on the field and keep the game moving

                    Agree.

                    Death, taxes, there will be cards this test…

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      Why start Nepo? It's not like our scrum creaks against Ireland with that second row pushing. And Nepo offers less than nothing around the ground.

                      Hooker with the most impact can't get into the 23.

                      Most ineffective blindside flanker to start.

                      Greatest second half impact backrower starts.

                      Sotutu must have a broken leg.

                      At least Havili is there to straighten the line...

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                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                      Why start Nepo? It's not like our scrum creaks against Ireland with that second row pushing. And Nepo offers less than nothing around the ground.

                      I am happy that Ofa has paid for his terrible performance. It goes without saying that it would be much better if we had a better alternative than Nepo.

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                        @Kirwan

                        The cards had a huge impact. A poor All Blacks side that played a bit shit tired them out and won by 23 in the first Test

                        Keep 15 on the field and keep the game moving

                        Agree.

                        Death, taxes, there will be cards this test…

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                        @ACT-Crusader at least they will give us something to chat/moan about next week...

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                          ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

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                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                          I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                          ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

                          If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

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                            Don't know what the reason is that Sotutu doesn't get a run, but if they're not going to use him, can they please bring in Cullen Grace for the Rugby Championship?

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                              Taylor has done f all to warrant his spot. ST better be injured.

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                                ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

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                                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                                ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

                                Yep and certainly takes away any thoughts of conservative picks. I guess time to see if he stays for RC too?

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                                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                  I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                                  ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

                                  If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

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                                  @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                  I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                                  ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

                                  If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

                                  For the Warriors RTS was generally covering for 12 dunderheads and having to account for most of the attacking metres for his side at the same time.

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                                    Taylor has done f all to warrant his spot. ST better be injured.

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                                    @akan004 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                    Taylor has done f all to warrant his spot. ST better be injured.

                                    Strange call to leave Taukei’aho out unless injured.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      Don't know what the reason is that Sotutu doesn't get a run, but if they're not going to use him, can they please bring in Cullen Grace for the Rugby Championship?

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                                      @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                      Don't know what the reason is that Sotutu doesn't get a run, but if they're not going to use him, can they please bring in Cullen Grace for the Rugby Championship?

                                      I wonder if that part of it Star? Have they already decided that Grace has made a statement for MABs, so will not gavie Sotutu a run. Also after this week a smaller squad has to be named for RC anyway, so some will miss out.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                                        ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

                                        Yep and certainly takes away any thoughts of conservative picks. I guess time to see if he stays for RC too?

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                                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                        Yep and certainly takes away any thoughts of conservative picks.

                                        On the bench maybe.

                                        The starting XV is a different matter.

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                                          @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                                          ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

                                          If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

                                          For the Warriors RTS was generally covering for 12 dunderheads and having to account for most of the attacking metres for his side at the same time.

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                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @kev said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

                                          I really like the RTS call. It’s a big game and he won’t be overawed. He has a bit of class to him but is a hard worker on both sides of the ball.

                                          ABs by 8 and Coles to score the game sealing try.

                                          If you watched the Warriors games you will see that Roger often made mistakes - and got pushed off in tackles. He has been the same with the Blues. So great attacking but has some issues. In such a big game it’s a big call.

                                          For the Warriors RTS was generally covering for 12 dunderheads and having to account for most of the attacking metres for his side at the same time.

                                          Yes that goes without saying. But if you look at when he played at the Roosters it was the same. The most noticeable is the grab tackle where he gets pushed off. It’s just a work on for him.

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