GOT - there will be spoilers

Rancid Schnitzel

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I'm not sure time management is thir core concept. They actually want this to go 8 seasons. So skipping the boring bits (which Martin sure as fuck didn't do in the books) is a bit dumb. Breaking Bad had an entire episode where they tried to kill a fly.
 
I get fans want to go straight to Clegane Bowl & then Dragons v Giants v White Walkers on undead Mamoths, but this is a tentpole cash cow that they need to draw out as long as they can, not a Youtube short.
 
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Way to miss the point. There is more than enough material for them to drag this series on to the end of time. There are multiple characters in the books that aren't in the series, not to mention sub-plots. This isn't about dragging shit on, it's using the time they have available in the episodes to provide decent scenes. For example, the Black Fish's last stand or another John/Bran/Ramsay scene would have been far more preferable to Tyrion offering wine and telling a joke to the two most pointless characters in the entire series.

gollum

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Way to miss the point. There is more than enough material for them to drag this series on to the end of time. There are multiple characters in the books that aren't in the series, not to mention sub-plots. This isn't about dragging shit on, it's using the time they have available in the episodes to provide decent scenes. For example, the Black Fish's last stand or another John/Bran/Ramsay scene would have been far more preferable to Tyrion offering wine and telling a joke to the two most pointless characters in the entire series.
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They had to shoot there for Dani's arrival, so extending that scene cost nothing. They don't have limitless cash. Also for many fans those characters are favourites, I get they are not yours, but the Grey Worm - hot slave chick pairing is one a lot of fans really want, so a scene adding depth to them is a good scene from that point.

Rancid Schnitzel

Don't have limitless cash? I wasn't asking for a giant trying to mount a direwolf, while all three dragons are watching with white walkers taking a crafty un behind a castle.
 
BTW I thought it was about dragging the series out to 8 seasons. Now its the cash apparently. Oh yes, and the enduring popularity of Greyworm and his missus. Fans would boycott the show in droves if those 2 were left out.

gollum

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Don't have limitless cash? I wasn't asking for a giant trying to mount a direwolf, while all three dragons are watching with white walkers taking a crafty un behind a castle.
 
BTW I thought it was about dragging the series out to 8 seasons. Now its the cash apparently. Oh yes, and the enduring popularity of Greyworm and his missus. Fans would boycott the show in droves if those 2 were left out.
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Hard to get extra seasons if your show loses money. You don't think they are working to a budget?
 
And yes, there is a very big demographic that love those two (probably young girls who want a lovely untreatening boyfriend who wont force them into sex)
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliapugachevsky/times-grey-worm-and-missandei-were-the-best-part-of-game?utm_term=.jgV3qXQYR#.dxmamjxz6'>https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliapugachevsky/times-grey-worm-and-missandei-were-the-best-part-of-game?utm_term=.jgV3qXQYR#.dxmamjxz6</a>
 
Bizarely the entire audience for the show is not middle aged blokes who can't be bothered googling "itis"

Rancid Schnitzel

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Hard to get extra seasons if your show loses money. You don't think they are working to a budget? 
And yes, there is a very big demographic that love those two (probably young girls who want a lovely untreatening boyfriend who wont force them into sex) <a class="bbc_url" href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliapugachevsky/times-grey-worm-and-missandei-were-the-best-part-of-game?utm_term=.jgV3qXQYR#.dxmamjxz6">https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliapugachevsky/times-grey-worm-and-missandei-were-the-best-part-of-game?utm_term=.jgV3qXQYR#.dxmamjxz6</a> 
Bizarely the entire audience for the show is not middle aged blokes who can't be bothered googling "itis"</blockquote>
 
No, I was not aware they were working on a budget. Wow, there was me thinking it all came for free. Cheers for the heads up. 
Once again, I wasn't asking for Dragons just fewer unnecessary scenes that add nothing to the story. In your first post you said the boring parts needed to be included to extend the series to 8 seasons. That's complete nonsense because shit loads have to be cut out of the original story to have this show end before the boy playing Bran dies of old age. 
Now you're saying budget restraints are the reason for lotsa Grey Worm? 
I don't exactly think a link to that article is definitive proof of the enormous appeal of those 2. At any rate, they didn't get "together" until season 5 so I'll go out on a limb here and say that the show would comfortably survive without them.

gollum

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No, I was not aware they were working on a budget. Wow, there was me thinking it all came for free. Cheers for the heads up. 
Once again, I wasn't asking for Dragons just fewer unnecessary scenes that add nothing to the story. In your first post you said the boring parts needed to be included to extend the series to 8 seasons. That's complete nonsense because shit loads have to be cut out of the original story to have this show end before the boy playing Bran dies of old age. 
Now you're saying budget restraints are the reason for lotsa Grey Worm? 

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First its your definition of an unnecessary scenes. As I pointed out for a lot of their viewers those weren't unnecessary. Personnally I'd view any scene where Dani has her top on to be filler, but I can at least recognise others like different bits.
 
Second in terms of budget and stretching, they are stretching it out as long as they can & budget wise that means limiting the locations & the characters. Yes, they could stretch it by shooting 10 characters they didn't include from the book, but that'd cost a shitload. That's not hard to understand surely?
 
That scene stretched it, had 3 of the most popular characters, cost zero & had no CGI, and added the Grey Worm-Hot slave combo love fest a big audience like. They could have showed John Snow as you wanted, and that would have been more "nesscessary" how? I get he's hot, but still.. And you'd have to leave out the CGI giant. Or Ramsey patting a dog & eating an apple. What vital scene do you feel robbed of by those 50 seconds of chat? Bran sitting in a tree?

Rancid Schnitzel

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First its your definition of an unnecessary scenes. As I pointed out for a lot of their viewers those weren't unnecessary. Personnally I'd view any scene where Dani has her top on to be filler, but I can at least recognise others like different bits. 
Second in terms of budget and stretching, they are stretching it out as long as they can & budget wise that means limiting the locations & the characters. Yes, they could stretch it by shooting 10 characters they didn't include from the book, but that'd cost a shitload. That's not hard to understand surely? 
That scene stretched it, had 3 of the most popular characters, cost zero & had no CGI, and added the Grey Worm-Hot slave combo love fest a big audience like. They could have showed John Snow as you wanted, and that would have been more "nesscessary" how? I get he's hot, but still.. And you'd have to leave out the CGI giant. Or Ramsey patting a dog & eating an apple. What vital scene do you feel robbed of by those 50 seconds of chat? Bran sitting in a tree?</blockquote>
 
As mentioned, this is a show with a shitload going on and limited episode time in which to tell the story. With that in mind, perhaps you can tell me how that scene can be deemed necessary. Oh yes that's right. They need to draw it out for 8 seasons because they just don't have enough material. And that scene "cost zero". Fark me, Dani wipes out slavery on the show but it's still alive and well on the set of GoT. 
Considering the show apparently couldn't survive without the Eunuch love match, I'm surprised they haven't pushed for better pay (or to be paid more than zero). 
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No Quarter

Well colour me disappointed with this series. Why couldn't they just have the mountain tear all of those religious idiots apart? I thought the HS said they all wanted to, and would be honored to die for their cause? Yet one of them gets his head ripped off and they all pussy out?
 
And what's with people dying but not even showing the fight?! And then fucking around with scenes like RS describes, which are of little consequence and no action. If BF was going to die (why would he just commit suicide?) then they should have shown him cut down 10 or 15 blokes before heroically going down.

phoenetia

BF's death was an honourable death. He fought off the soldiers to allow Brienne time to escape.

Virgil

You only have to check out the episodes IMDb page to see there's just a 'couple' of variations from the books to the tv show... 
In the books, Arya has no plans to leave Braavos, and she agrees to give up her past identity. 
In the books, Jaime has grown distant from Cersei. He does not love her anymore, and has no intentions to kill anyone in order to get back to her. 
In the books, Brynden escapes from Riverrun, with Edmure's help. Jaime conducts a search but he is not found. His current whereabouts are unknown. 
In the books, Beric Dondarrion is no longer the leader of the Brotherhood. 
In the books, no one in Braavos tries to kill Arya. 
Those are just the main ones, there's dozens more.

Virgil

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="phoenetia" data-cid="588087" data-time="1465946792">BF's death was an honourable death. He fought off the soldiers to allow Brienne time to escape.</blockquote>
 
Shame we didn't get to see it like we did previously with Barriston Selmy's death

MN5

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Well colour me disappointed with this series. Why couldn't they just have the mountain tear all of those religious idiots apart? I thought the HS said they all wanted to, and would be honored to die for their cause? Yet one of them gets his head ripped off and they all pussy out?
 
And what's with people dying but not even showing the fight?! And then fucking around with scenes like RS describes, which are of little consequence and no action. If BF was going to die (why would he just commit suicide?) then they should have shown him cut down 10 or 15 blokes before heroically going down.
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Agreed. Dealing to all of them would have been fucken sensational. The Cleganes both showed their wonderful aptitude for violence but even at his absolute best you wouldn't back the hound to beat his big bro. There'll be no fucken chance now Gregor has been altered. They should go north and get Wun Wun cos he might be the only one able to match him.

Nepia

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You only have to check out the episodes IMDb page to see there's just a 'couple' of variations from the books to the tv show... 
In the books, Arya has no plans to leave Braavos, and she agrees to give up her past identity. 
In the books, Jaime has grown distant from Cersei. He does not love her anymore, and has no intentions to kill anyone in order to get back to her. 
In the books, Brynden escapes from Riverrun, with Edmure's help. Jaime conducts a search but he is not found. His current whereabouts are unknown. 
In the books, Beric Dondarrion is no longer the leader of the Brotherhood. 
In the books, no one in Braavos tries to kill Arya. 
Those are just the main ones, there's dozens more.
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Most of those seem to be improvements or doesn't really matter.
 
Arya in Braavos has been tiresome as fudge, her staying there would make her irrelevant as a character.
 
For Jaime to be a dodgy fellow he needs to pine for his sister.
 
The others are in the doesn't really matter box for me.

Virgil

You could just about have grounds to accuse the makers of GOT with false advertising in season 6 
Look back at the trailers, it showed this cool stand off in Kings Landing, shit bout to get real here we go. No nothing. 
It showed Cersie 'choosing violence' and unleashing the monster on the faith militants. Let's see him tear into them all and lay waste to Lancel. Nope kills one then it fizzles. 
We also this big siege at Riverrun, Blackfish to go down fighting. Nope, it's settled calmly not an arrow fired in anger and the BF dies off fucken screen. 
Throw in hype surrounding Clegane bowl ( that's our fault for having better ideas then the actual writers of GOT) it's basically being one big fizzle. It's like it's raining on Guy Fawkes, your mrs has a headache on your birthday, getting a shit present on Xmas. 
If you talk about each season being better than the previous, you wouldn't even consider season 6 to be the best. Still have the big final 2 episodes to go, almost to afraid to carry high expectations into next week. 
I'm not saying GOT is turning into Lost, but...

MN5

I think the choosing violence bit was the biggest fizzer. As someone said those dicks are supposed to die for the cause, not pussy out like they did.
 
Rewatched the "Hardhome" episode, possibly the best fight ever. Not looking like we're gonna get anything close this season.

Baron Silas Greenback

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I think the choosing violence bit was the biggest fizzer. As someone said those dicks are supposed to die for the cause, not pussy out like they did.
 
Rewatched the "Hardhome" episode, possibly the best fight ever. Not looking like we're gonna get anything close this season.
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Yeah that was pathetic. He could have killed all of them and it would not have changed the plot.. except for the better.
I wonder if all the bitching from the easily offended has affected the show runners.

JC

The whole trial by combat thing annoyed me. Surely the king can't just decree that centuries of tradition get set aside just because without inviting the people to wonder what other traditions are worthless. Like kings, for example. Is King Milfmagnet first of his name really that dumb?

No Quarter

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Yeah that was pathetic. He could have killed all of them and it would not have changed the plot.. except for the better.
I wonder if all the bitching from the easily offended has affected the show runners.
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Yeah, I wonder if they have been told to tone down the violence a bit. They didn't really show decapitation scenes in much detail for the mountain and the hound like they have in past seasons.

Baron Silas Greenback

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I reckon they are spooked.. and tight fisted.

taniwharugby

they have also toned down the sex from the first couple of seasons too...next thing you know they'll introduce a new breed of vampires that dont die in the sun!

The Silver Fern

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