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  • TimT Tim

    https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/18/how-bellamy-could-help-solve-the-all-blacks-defensive-woes/

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    @Tim said in Foster must go:

    https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/18/how-bellamy-could-help-solve-the-all-blacks-defensive-woes/

    Haven't read the article, but before I saw this post it did cross my mind about looking to league for some answers. And Bellamy crossed my mind, especially given Razor and him seem to have developed a bit of a connection.

    One can only dream, but Farrell has shown crossing between League and Union can be done successfully.

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    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

      @Tim said in Foster must go:

      https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/18/how-bellamy-could-help-solve-the-all-blacks-defensive-woes/

      Haven't read the article, but before I saw this post it did cross my mind about looking to league for some answers. And Bellamy crossed my mind, especially given Razor and him seem to have developed a bit of a connection.

      One can only dream, but Farrell has shown crossing between League and Union can be done successfully.

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      @Crazy-Horse According to Dagg he has worked with the ABs before too.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @Crucial are the players able to truly be honest in these feedbacks, or are the questions not designed to get to the heart of the problem?

        I know this is NPC, but I hear the same sorts of stuff coming out of Northland and people I know in and around players, with players unhappy with similar stuff to the ABs', thier messaging, tactics etc, yet come end of year reviews, they get renewed.

        Seems a disconnect there??

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        @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

        @Crucial are the players able to truly be honest in these feedbacks, or are the questions not designed to get to the heart of the problem?

        As much as NZR get stick about these things they sometime do run reviews with honest feedback. The recent one on the women's game and BlackFerns a case in point.

        Even if they do the old 360degree feedback things, those rely on a culture of speaking openly.

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          https://twitter.com/ByPhillipRollo/status/1548835214008299520

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          • canefanC canefan

            @Snowy said in Foster must go:

            @MN5 said in Foster must go:

            @BartMan said in Foster must go:

            @MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.

            The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.

            Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

            I have just made room for Foster in the basement.

            Welcome back mate

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            @canefan said in Foster must go:

            @Snowy said in Foster must go:

            @MN5 said in Foster must go:

            @BartMan said in Foster must go:

            @MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.

            The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.

            Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

            I have just made room for Foster in the basement.

            Welcome back mate

            @BartMan
            @Luigi
            @Snowy

            ...

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              #431

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/300639785/ian-foster-must-go-as-part-of-an-all-blacks-rebuild

              Ian Foster must go as part of an All Blacks rebuild
              Marc Hinton
              13:00, Jul 18 2022
              
              OPINION: Ian Foster is surely a goner. Among the laundry list of issues the board of New Zealand Rugby has to work through over the next few days around the All Blacks, that decision should take the least of their time.
              
              The board, we now know unequivocally, got it patently wrong when they extended Foster’s contract as All Blacks head coach through to the 2023 World Cup last year based on back-to-back home victories over a weak Wallabies side. Now these guardians of the game in this country must put their hands up and concede (as I noted at the time) that the decision was premature, and horrendously erroneous.
              
              Any other course of action could lead to the provinces wondering whether they have the right people running the game in this country.
              
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                if this was the NRL or the AFL you would not be able to hear yourself for the media drums beating and beating hard for blood.

                NZ rugby coaches are the most protected species in world sport.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  if this was the NRL or the AFL you would not be able to hear yourself for the media drums beating and beating hard for blood.

                  NZ rugby coaches are the most protected species in world sport.

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                  @mariner4life and Hansen came out last week and called the NZ media bullies for their treatment of Foster.

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                    I'm trying to decide whether the relative silence out of the NZRU at the moment is just normal, or whether something may actually be brewing as a result...

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @mariner4life and Hansen came out last week and called the NZ media bullies for their treatment of Foster.

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                      @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

                      @mariner4life and Hansen came out last week and called the NZ media bullies for their treatment of Foster.

                      lol what? kid gloves. jesus old Steve should have a bit of a chat with someone like Michael Maguire or Anthony Seibold or any number of Carlton coaches.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @mariner4life and Hansen came out last week and called the NZ media bullies for their treatment of Foster.

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                        @KiwiMurph That was on talk radio? Anyone got a clip?

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @KiwiMurph That was on talk radio? Anyone got a clip?

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                          @Tim

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @Tim

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                            @KiwiMurph Classic case of post hoc ergo prompter hoc. Ireland are only ranked number one in the world because they beat New Zealand in New Zealand. It's not like they came down here ranked number one.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @mariner4life and Hansen came out last week and called the NZ media bullies for their treatment of Foster.

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                              @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

                              @mariner4life and Hansen came out last week and called the NZ media bullies for their treatment of Foster.

                              And maybe he might also like to berate the NZRFU for being bullies and inflicting the sort of drivel that they have shoved at us under the guise of the All Blacks these last 12 months or so.

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                                i got the shits inside a fucking minute with the strawmen arguments

                                We did not underestimate the Irish. How could we?
                                What we did was overestimate the All Blacks

                                And it wasn't one loss Martin, it was a few thanks mate.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @Tim

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

                                  @Tim

                                  Nothing Hansen says in relation to Foster can be trusted.

                                  Look at the comments under the video.
                                  No one is buying this BS anymore.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    i got the shits inside a fucking minute with the strawmen arguments

                                    We did not underestimate the Irish. How could we?
                                    What we did was overestimate the All Blacks

                                    And it wasn't one loss Martin, it was a few thanks mate.

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                                    @mariner4life

                                    What a condescending tool.

                                    "Times when people get jittery and make outrageous statements is because they don't know what's going on."

                                    "We talk about mental health, but when the knives come out ... and the media are worst bullies ... and they should just report on the facts ..."

                                    We can see the facts, and they are that the team is shit, the coach is shit, the results are terrible, and you're a delusional, arrogant fool.

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                                      Hansen is one to talk on bullying and mental health over how he treated Akira Ioane

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        @mariner4life

                                        What a condescending tool.

                                        "Times when people get jittery and make outrageous statements is because they don't know what's going on."

                                        "We talk about mental health, but when the knives come out ... and the media are worst bullies ... and they should just report on the facts ..."

                                        We can see the facts, and they are that the team is shit, the coach is shit, the results are terrible, and you're a delusional, arrogant fool.

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                                        @Tim said in Foster must go:

                                        @mariner4life

                                        What a condescending tool.

                                        "Times when people get jittery and make outrageous statements is because they don't know what's going on."

                                        "We talk about mental health, but when the knives come out ... and the media are worst bullies ... and they should just report on the facts ..."

                                        We can see the facts, and they are that the team is shit, the coach is shit, the results are terrible, and you're a delusional, arrogant fool.

                                        If you hide the facts then the media will speculate. That is a fact.

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                                          Did I read correctly that Foster is on $1,000,000 per year salary? No wonder he is reluctant to go.

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