All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Which is if fellas?
Cards or no cards?
You can’t have both, and moan when it suits you
You're better than this mate. I know you've read most of the thread. We aren't crying foul about the Irish player personally, and that it cost us the game. We just want consistency.
Read the series back
People on here are absolutely calling for no censure one week, and then blood the next
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Which is if fellas?
Cards or no cards?
You can’t have both, and moan when it suits you
You're better than this mate. I know you've read most of the thread. We aren't crying foul about the Irish player personally, and that it cost us the game. We just want consistency.
Read the series back
People on here are absolutely calling for no censure one week, and then blood the next
Yeah I still don't get people saying Taavao was a poor little deer in the headlights but Porter had the accuracy of a sniper. I haven't watched it since the test, but I don't think I was the only one that saw Taavao change direction to make the tackle. If you're beaten, you're beaten - that doesn't mean you can be reckless.
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Which is if fellas?
Cards or no cards?
You can’t have both, and moan when it suits you
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Which is if fellas?
Cards or no cards?
You can’t have both, and moan when it suits you
I'd say both Ta'avao and Porter should have got a 10 minute red card. Teams down to 14 men for 10 minutes and then replaced by a different player.
As others have pointed above - that's consistency.
But, really, this highlights the foolishness of those advocating for 80 minute red cards.
Porter saw Ta'avao get red carded for the same offence the previous week. I believe he's been playing with the 80 minute red card rule all year. And yet - it appears he hasn't learned a thing.
Perhaps he plays for "those teams" that are persistently dirty?
Or maybe, the 80 minute red card rule is ridiculous in a game of dynamic collisions in which accidents will continue to regularly happen - but, in the meantime we have to repeatedly watch games turned into mismatches by brain-dead administrators.
Good on Eddie Jones for being a bastion of sense!!!
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Crucial I know it is only the words used, but I hate those accidental collisions being described as 'foul play'
Yeah but look - at what point does it become accidental? I see a lot of people saying red cards should be reserved for dirty play - at what point does a high tackle go from accidental to oh you deliberately tried to take that guys head off?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Crucial I know it is only the words used, but I hate those accidental collisions being described as 'foul play'
Yeah but look - at what point does it become accidental? I see a lot of people saying red cards should be reserved for dirty play - at what point does a high tackle go from accidental to oh you deliberately tried to take that guys head off?
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@Bones me and you with your super ninja reflexes have had this conversation before, so no point going over that ground again.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Bones me and you with your super ninja reflexes have had this conversation before, so no point going over that ground again.
But it was accidental.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Bones me and you with your super ninja reflexes have had this conversation before, so no point going over that ground again.
But it was accidental.
@Bones nah, even with your SNR I know you purposely hit 'Submit'
Cant fool me!
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I think accidental is a problem word
Farting then shitting yourself is accidental
Drinking 10 pints of Worthington Best Bitter followed by a curry feast then farting and shitting yourself is almost inevitable
Same goes for rugby
Poor execution, timing, and skills are better descriptors
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I think accidental is a problem word
Farting then shitting yourself is accidental
Drinking 10 pints of Worthington Best Bitter followed by a curry feast then farting and shitting yourself is almost inevitable
Same goes for rugby
Poor execution, timing, and skills are better descriptors
@MiketheSnow Regardless, you should just throw the underpants in the rubbish bin.
Not throw the shit over everyone else who is enjoying themselves in the pub.
Or, they may not return.
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@MiketheSnow Regardless, you should just throw the underpants in the rubbish bin.
Not throw the shit over everyone else who is enjoying themselves in the pub.
Or, they may not return.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@MiketheSnow Regardless, you should just throw the underpants in the rubbish bin.
Not throw the shit over everyone else who is enjoying themselves in the pub.
Or, they may not return.
I have absolutely no regrets about that night.
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@MiketheSnow Regardless, you should just throw the underpants in the rubbish bin.
Not throw the shit over everyone else who is enjoying themselves in the pub.
Or, they may not return.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@MiketheSnow Regardless, you should just throw the underpants in the rubbish bin.
Not throw the shit over everyone else who is enjoying themselves in the pub.
Or, they may not return.
So RC and off?
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Porter cleared, so fuck who knows. Probably the rule appears to be that the darker your jersey the better your chance of spending some time on sidelines.
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Porter cleared, so fuck who knows. Probably the rule appears to be that the darker your jersey the better your chance of spending some time on sidelines.
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Porter cleared, so fuck who knows. Probably the rule appears to be that the darker your jersey the better your chance of spending some time on sidelines.
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Porter cleared, so fuck who knows. Probably the rule appears to be that the darker your jersey the better your chance of spending some time on sidelines.
What an absolute unmitigated crock of fucking shit. Unbelievable.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Porter cleared, so fuck who knows. Probably the rule appears to be that the darker your jersey the better your chance of spending some time on sidelines.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Porter cleared, so fuck who knows. Probably the rule appears to be that the darker your jersey the better your chance of spending some time on sidelines.
He really perfected the Hitman: Agent 47 look quite early on..(edit: that and his role in Night Court).
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Porter cleared, so fuck who knows. Probably the rule appears to be that the darker your jersey the better your chance of spending some time on sidelines.
He really perfected the Hitman: Agent 47 look quite early on..(edit: that and his role in Night Court).
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Porter cleared, so fuck who knows. Probably the rule appears to be that the darker your jersey the better your chance of spending some time on sidelines.
He really perfected the Hitman: Agent 47 look quite early on..(edit: that and his role in Night Court).
Yeah not the point but sure ok
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Porter cleared, so fuck who knows. Probably the rule appears to be that the darker your jersey the better your chance of spending some time on sidelines.
@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Porter cleared, so fuck who knows. Probably the rule appears to be that the darker your jersey the better your chance of spending some time on sidelines.
Was it the same panel that heard Ta’avu’s case? If not, surely it makes sense that the same panel sit for all the matches of a series so that at least there’s an attempt at consistency.
As an Irish fan I thought Peyper, a ref I have very little time for, had not given enough weight to mitigation when he sent off Ta’avu, and that Barnes decision on Porter was correct after seemingly having had a change of mind about mitigation, but for the disciplinary panels to have such a different view of both incidents is really worrying.
It must be the most difficult spot to referee, with so many things happening at such speed simultaneously, but these panels are only looking at one incident with multiple angles with the laws laid out in front of them, and we still get these hugely inconsistent outcomes. WR needs to take a long hard look at the process.
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Watched the game last night. Nothing wrong with Akira. He was one of the brighter lights. Just did not have any support and it would have been different with Paps at 7. They understand the upright tackles. Why don’t they use him in the lineout? He has been a good option in the past. For my criticism of Retallick he wasn’t bad. Park seem to be able to make meters off the base of the ruck whereas Smith was either contained or reverting to quick passing to his outsides. Irish defense organized so the options for JGB was running hard at 3 players, kicking or moving sideways. No lack of effort. Ofa was taken out by a shoulder to the head by Aki or did I miss something? Ardie did some good stuff but doing too much by himself and isolated.
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Watched the game last night. Nothing wrong with Akira. He was one of the brighter lights. Just did not have any support and it would have been different with Paps at 7. They understand the upright tackles. Why don’t they use him in the lineout? He has been a good option in the past. For my criticism of Retallick he wasn’t bad. Park seem to be able to make meters off the base of the ruck whereas Smith was either contained or reverting to quick passing to his outsides. Irish defense organized so the options for JGB was running hard at 3 players, kicking or moving sideways. No lack of effort. Ofa was taken out by a shoulder to the head by Aki or did I miss something? Ardie did some good stuff but doing too much by himself and isolated.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Porter cleared, so fuck who knows. Probably the rule appears to be that the darker your jersey the better your chance of spending some time on sidelines.
Was it the same panel that heard Ta’avu’s case? If not, surely it makes sense that the same panel sit for all the matches of a series so that at least there’s an attempt at consistency.
As an Irish fan I thought Peyper, a ref I have very little time for, had not given enough weight to mitigation when he sent off Ta’avu, and that Barnes decision on Porter was correct after seemingly having had a change of mind about mitigation, but for the disciplinary panels to have such a different view of both incidents is really worrying.
It must be the most difficult spot to referee, with so many things happening at such speed simultaneously, but these panels are only looking at one incident with multiple angles with the laws laid out in front of them, and we still get these hugely inconsistent outcomes. WR needs to take a long hard look at the process.
@Halfout said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Was it the same panel that heard Ta’avu’s case? If not, surely it makes sense that the same panel sit for all the matches of a series so that at least there’s an attempt at consistency.
I dont believe it was, I dont recall the names, but the Angus one had a female (assumed gender by a name, apologies all) on the panel, I dont think this one did.
But agree, same panel for consistency, but then that would be a bit of common sense, and WR is nothing if not inconsistent.
