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Poll All Black Captain

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    can a mod merge this with the other thread so we can have an actual Poll?

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      Vote your All Black Captain: First, Second and third picks:

      1. S Whitelock
      2. A Savea.
      3. C Taylor
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        Vote your All Black Captain: First, Second and third picks:

        1. S Whitelock
        2. A Savea.
        3. C Taylor
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        @The-Docter Taylor???

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          @The-Docter Taylor???

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          @FakatavaAllBlack Thats a hook to get people thinking. Hard to think of another option.

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            @The-Docter Taylor???

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            @FakatavaAllBlack are there any other realistic options at present?

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              Edit first post for poll.

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                @FakatavaAllBlack are there any other realistic options at present?

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                @The-Docter I don't know Jesus! 😭would guess Sam Whitelock

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                  @The-Docter I don't know Jesus! 😭would guess Sam Whitelock

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                  @FakatavaAllBlack I think that's it at present. If you drop Cane, it is either Wihtelock or Savea. Otherwise we go for a Taine Randall selection.

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                    @FakatavaAllBlack I think that's it at present. If you drop Cane, it is either Wihtelock or Savea. Otherwise we go for a Taine Randall selection.

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                    @The-Docter I'm too young to really remember Taine Randell, although I do know he's an Otago & Landers legend so if I ever met him I would shout that man a drink🍻

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                      @The-Docter I'm too young to really remember Taine Randell, although I do know he's an Otago & Landers legend so if I ever met him I would shout that man a drink🍻

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                      @FakatavaAllBlack point being he was made Captain before his time and never had the full support of the elder statesmen of the dressing room. Very good player though.

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                        Edit first post for poll.

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                        @antipodean added poll. the third option gets tough. Taylor was my clown option.

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                          To be captain, you need to be a starter and not in danger of being dropped in the next 12 months.
                          As of last test: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 need not apply. The only guy who should be a nailed-on starter in the forwards is the hooker they dropped for the deciding test FFS.
                          I can't see Aaron Smith or Will Jordan getting dropped, but neither appeal as captains.
                          Whitelock is the only real interim solution, but you then get into trouble if he ends up being 3rd choice behind Retallick and Barrett.

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                            To be captain, you need to be a starter and not in danger of being dropped in the next 12 months.
                            As of last test: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 need not apply. The only guy who should be a nailed-on starter in the forwards is the hooker they dropped for the deciding test FFS.
                            I can't see Aaron Smith or Will Jordan getting dropped, but neither appeal as captains.
                            Whitelock is the only real interim solution, but you then get into trouble if he ends up being 3rd choice behind Retallick and Barrett.

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                            @reprobate this is the problem. No clear standouts beyond Whitelock. Future Captains no obvious potentials at this stage.

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                              @The-Docter I'm too young to really remember Taine Randell, although I do know he's an Otago & Landers legend so if I ever met him I would shout that man a drink🍻

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                              @FakatavaAllBlack said in Vote All Black Captain:

                              @The-Docter I'm too young to really remember Taine Randell, although I do know he's an Otago & Landers legend so if I ever met him I would shout that man a drink🍻

                              Taine Randall - a fine No 8 who could play at 7 and 6. He was strong and able and fierce with a good future ahead of him and your selectors fixed that - it was a time of great change in your senior personnel, so they appointed a young bloke who had just arrived as captain and left him to work it out for himself ... at 21 or 22! It was one of the most myopic decisions I can recall from the wise men of rugby, shameful really, and Randell was the only one who paid a price.

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                                @FakatavaAllBlack said in Vote All Black Captain:

                                @The-Docter I'm too young to really remember Taine Randell, although I do know he's an Otago & Landers legend so if I ever met him I would shout that man a drink🍻

                                Taine Randall - a fine No 8 who could play at 7 and 6. He was strong and able and fierce with a good future ahead of him and your selectors fixed that - it was a time of great change in your senior personnel, so they appointed a young bloke who had just arrived as captain and left him to work it out for himself ... at 21 or 22! It was one of the most myopic decisions I can recall from the wise men of rugby, shameful really, and Randell was the only one who paid a price.

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                                @Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD well said

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                                  LOL, we've got a live one here.

                                  Or maybe a troll ...

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                                    LOL, we've got a live one here.

                                    Or maybe a troll ...

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                                    @Tim Nah, fair enough opinion. Getting off topic, but he was a good player who was made captain too young.

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                                      Paps

                                      Wales did it with Warburton

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                                        Paps

                                        Wales did it with Warburton

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                                        @MiketheSnow McCaw is the only young captain I can think of who reached the highest echelon. Even then, he needed to fail to succeed. Rare exception though.

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                                          1 S Cane
                                          2 S Whitelock
                                          3 D Papalii

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