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All Blacks XV 2022

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    Stuff understands MacDonald will take charge of the All Blacks XV tour later this year, when those who miss out on All Blacks selection will be given the chance to impress in the northern hemisphere.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129348883/dramatic-day-looms-for-nz-rugby-as-all-blacks-assistants-and-captain-sam-cane-face-axe

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      Post about Foster in one of the many threads. This is the AB XV thread.

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        After today's underwhelming announcement, what might an NZ A squad look like? Entire Blues squad is in, of course.

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          After today's underwhelming announcement, what might an NZ A squad look like? Entire Blues squad is in, of course.

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          @Tim

          Best Māori All Blacks plus the likes of:

          Hodgman, Josh Goodhue, Tom Robinson

          Ah Kuoi, Jacobsen, Samipeni Finau, Jonah Lowe, McKenzie?

          Aumua, Morgan, Peter UJ, Savea, Rayasi

          Newell, Williams

          PPP, MMT, Thomas UJ, Nareki

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            The interesting one for me and this team is what they do at halfback.

            It’s a new(ish) concept and we will want to win so do we take a couple of experienced heads or is this purely about eye to the future.

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              The interesting one for me and this team is what they do at halfback.

              It’s a new(ish) concept and we will want to win so do we take a couple of experienced heads or is this purely about eye to the future.

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              @ACT-Crusader Yep, and then there's the cross-over between the senior squad and this squad. Games of the ABs XV may be used to give game time to ABs who haven't played much. For example, if they use Smith and Fakatava for most tests, Christie may get a run for this team.

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                The interesting one for me and this team is what they do at halfback.

                It’s a new(ish) concept and we will want to win so do we take a couple of experienced heads or is this purely about eye to the future.

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                @ACT-Crusader Really hoping they don't take Perenara. Would like to see Ratima get a go. Maybe Roe too.

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                  @ACT-Crusader Yep, and then there's the cross-over between the senior squad and this squad. Games of the ABs XV may be used to give game time to ABs who haven't played much. For example, if they use Smith and Fakatava for most tests, Christie may get a run for this team.

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                  @Stargazer Hope Weber is the senior halfback, if he isn't in the ABs.

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                    @Stargazer Hope Weber is the senior halfback, if he isn't in the ABs.

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                    @Tim Yep, if they take two halfbacks, they should pick Weber and Ratima.

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                      There's a bit of form to play out in NPC.

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                        Surely they pick the next best players. There are only 3 tour games so not much time for development players, but that could be dependent on the squad size.

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                          i hope they take Finau

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                            An AB XV vs the actual ABs would be interesting. Fozzie wouldn’t want to be losing that.

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                              @ACT-Crusader Yep, and then there's the cross-over between the senior squad and this squad. Games of the ABs XV may be used to give game time to ABs who haven't played much. For example, if they use Smith and Fakatava for most tests, Christie may get a run for this team.

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                              @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                              @ACT-Crusader Yep, and then there's the cross-over between the senior squad and this squad. Games of the ABs XV may be used to give game time to ABs who haven't played much. For example, if they use Smith and Fakatava for most tests, Christie may get a run for this team.

                              I really hope that is the case. So you would think this squad would be no more than 25 or 26 players.

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                                @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                @ACT-Crusader Yep, and then there's the cross-over between the senior squad and this squad. Games of the ABs XV may be used to give game time to ABs who haven't played much. For example, if they use Smith and Fakatava for most tests, Christie may get a run for this team.

                                I really hope that is the case. So you would think this squad would be no more than 25 or 26 players.

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                                @ACT-Crusader Also from a cost perspective, that's the sensible thing to do.

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                                  Anyone who doesn't make the AB XV might find themselves in the Barbarian team if Razor is still the Barbarian coach by then.

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                                    Possible squad :

                                    Eklund, Aumua, Thompson (McAllister, Vikena eventual bolters)

                                    Norris, Williams, Jager, Newell, Ainsley

                                    Gallagher, Sangster, IWL, PPP (if fit)

                                    MMT, Robinson, Harmon, Suafoa, Grace + an openside (Gibson, Christie ?)

                                    Weber, Ratima, TJP

                                    Ioane + AN other (Morgan, Love, Gatland, Burke, Gilbert ?)

                                    TUJ, PUJ, Nankivell + AN other (Sullivan, Proctor, Evans, Savea ?)

                                    Telea, Stevenson, Lam, Sullivan, Moorby (DMac ?)

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                                      Possible squad :

                                      Eklund, Aumua, Thompson (McAllister, Vikena eventual bolters)

                                      Norris, Williams, Jager, Newell, Ainsley

                                      Gallagher, Sangster, IWL, PPP (if fit)

                                      MMT, Robinson, Harmon, Suafoa, Grace + an openside (Gibson, Christie ?)

                                      Weber, Ratima, TJP

                                      Ioane + AN other (Morgan, Love, Gatland, Burke, Gilbert ?)

                                      TUJ, PUJ, Nankivell + AN other (Sullivan, Proctor, Evans, Savea ?)

                                      Telea, Stevenson, Lam, Sullivan, Moorby (DMac ?)

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                                      @cgrant I hope Flanders is in the equation, too, although the Canes' selection policy and his injury late in the season haven't done him any favours. I guess it may depend on whether Grace will be in the ABs EOYT squad, as he should be. Otherwise, he may have to wait a year.

                                      Bailyn Sullivan should not be listed under "AN other". I'd pick him over PUJ.

                                      And whether we like it or not, Ennor is a near certainty for this team, unless he's in the ABs to stay. As a midfielder or a wing, or a utitlity back.

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                                        Possible squad :

                                        Eklund, Aumua, Thompson (McAllister, Vikena eventual bolters)

                                        Norris, Williams, Jager, Newell, Ainsley

                                        Gallagher, Sangster, IWL, PPP (if fit)

                                        MMT, Robinson, Harmon, Suafoa, Grace + an openside (Gibson, Christie ?)

                                        Weber, Ratima, TJP

                                        Ioane + AN other (Morgan, Love, Gatland, Burke, Gilbert ?)

                                        TUJ, PUJ, Nankivell + AN other (Sullivan, Proctor, Evans, Savea ?)

                                        Telea, Stevenson, Lam, Sullivan, Moorby (DMac ?)

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                                        @cgrant too many players. There will be unselected players in the AB squad who will be able to get an AB XV game.

                                        My mix would be something like below if the ABs take their standard size squad.

                                        5x props
                                        3x hookers
                                        3x locks
                                        4x loose forwards
                                        2x halfbacks
                                        2x 1st 5s
                                        3x midfielders
                                        3x outside backs

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                                          @cgrant too many players. There will be unselected players in the AB squad who will be able to get an AB XV game.

                                          My mix would be something like below if the ABs take their standard size squad.

                                          5x props
                                          3x hookers
                                          3x locks
                                          4x loose forwards
                                          2x halfbacks
                                          2x 1st 5s
                                          3x midfielders
                                          3x outside backs

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                                          @ACT-Crusader Yep, that makes a lot of sense.

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