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All Blacks XV 2022

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  • TimT Away
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    #89

    After today's underwhelming announcement, what might an NZ A squad look like? Entire Blues squad is in, of course.

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    • TimT Tim

      After today's underwhelming announcement, what might an NZ A squad look like? Entire Blues squad is in, of course.

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      Frye
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      #90

      @Tim

      Best Māori All Blacks plus the likes of:

      Hodgman, Josh Goodhue, Tom Robinson

      Ah Kuoi, Jacobsen, Samipeni Finau, Jonah Lowe, McKenzie?

      Aumua, Morgan, Peter UJ, Savea, Rayasi

      Newell, Williams

      PPP, MMT, Thomas UJ, Nareki

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        The interesting one for me and this team is what they do at halfback.

        It’s a new(ish) concept and we will want to win so do we take a couple of experienced heads or is this purely about eye to the future.

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          The interesting one for me and this team is what they do at halfback.

          It’s a new(ish) concept and we will want to win so do we take a couple of experienced heads or is this purely about eye to the future.

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          @ACT-Crusader Yep, and then there's the cross-over between the senior squad and this squad. Games of the ABs XV may be used to give game time to ABs who haven't played much. For example, if they use Smith and Fakatava for most tests, Christie may get a run for this team.

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            The interesting one for me and this team is what they do at halfback.

            It’s a new(ish) concept and we will want to win so do we take a couple of experienced heads or is this purely about eye to the future.

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            #93

            @ACT-Crusader Really hoping they don't take Perenara. Would like to see Ratima get a go. Maybe Roe too.

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              @ACT-Crusader Yep, and then there's the cross-over between the senior squad and this squad. Games of the ABs XV may be used to give game time to ABs who haven't played much. For example, if they use Smith and Fakatava for most tests, Christie may get a run for this team.

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              @Stargazer Hope Weber is the senior halfback, if he isn't in the ABs.

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              • TimT Tim

                @Stargazer Hope Weber is the senior halfback, if he isn't in the ABs.

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                @Tim Yep, if they take two halfbacks, they should pick Weber and Ratima.

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                  #96

                  There's a bit of form to play out in NPC.

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                    Surely they pick the next best players. There are only 3 tour games so not much time for development players, but that could be dependent on the squad size.

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                      i hope they take Finau

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                      • Billy TellB Offline
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                        An AB XV vs the actual ABs would be interesting. Fozzie wouldn’t want to be losing that.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @ACT-Crusader Yep, and then there's the cross-over between the senior squad and this squad. Games of the ABs XV may be used to give game time to ABs who haven't played much. For example, if they use Smith and Fakatava for most tests, Christie may get a run for this team.

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                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                          @ACT-Crusader Yep, and then there's the cross-over between the senior squad and this squad. Games of the ABs XV may be used to give game time to ABs who haven't played much. For example, if they use Smith and Fakatava for most tests, Christie may get a run for this team.

                          I really hope that is the case. So you would think this squad would be no more than 25 or 26 players.

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                            @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                            @ACT-Crusader Yep, and then there's the cross-over between the senior squad and this squad. Games of the ABs XV may be used to give game time to ABs who haven't played much. For example, if they use Smith and Fakatava for most tests, Christie may get a run for this team.

                            I really hope that is the case. So you would think this squad would be no more than 25 or 26 players.

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                            @ACT-Crusader Also from a cost perspective, that's the sensible thing to do.

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                              Anyone who doesn't make the AB XV might find themselves in the Barbarian team if Razor is still the Barbarian coach by then.

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                                Possible squad :

                                Eklund, Aumua, Thompson (McAllister, Vikena eventual bolters)

                                Norris, Williams, Jager, Newell, Ainsley

                                Gallagher, Sangster, IWL, PPP (if fit)

                                MMT, Robinson, Harmon, Suafoa, Grace + an openside (Gibson, Christie ?)

                                Weber, Ratima, TJP

                                Ioane + AN other (Morgan, Love, Gatland, Burke, Gilbert ?)

                                TUJ, PUJ, Nankivell + AN other (Sullivan, Proctor, Evans, Savea ?)

                                Telea, Stevenson, Lam, Sullivan, Moorby (DMac ?)

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                                  Possible squad :

                                  Eklund, Aumua, Thompson (McAllister, Vikena eventual bolters)

                                  Norris, Williams, Jager, Newell, Ainsley

                                  Gallagher, Sangster, IWL, PPP (if fit)

                                  MMT, Robinson, Harmon, Suafoa, Grace + an openside (Gibson, Christie ?)

                                  Weber, Ratima, TJP

                                  Ioane + AN other (Morgan, Love, Gatland, Burke, Gilbert ?)

                                  TUJ, PUJ, Nankivell + AN other (Sullivan, Proctor, Evans, Savea ?)

                                  Telea, Stevenson, Lam, Sullivan, Moorby (DMac ?)

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                                  @cgrant I hope Flanders is in the equation, too, although the Canes' selection policy and his injury late in the season haven't done him any favours. I guess it may depend on whether Grace will be in the ABs EOYT squad, as he should be. Otherwise, he may have to wait a year.

                                  Bailyn Sullivan should not be listed under "AN other". I'd pick him over PUJ.

                                  And whether we like it or not, Ennor is a near certainty for this team, unless he's in the ABs to stay. As a midfielder or a wing, or a utitlity back.

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                                    Possible squad :

                                    Eklund, Aumua, Thompson (McAllister, Vikena eventual bolters)

                                    Norris, Williams, Jager, Newell, Ainsley

                                    Gallagher, Sangster, IWL, PPP (if fit)

                                    MMT, Robinson, Harmon, Suafoa, Grace + an openside (Gibson, Christie ?)

                                    Weber, Ratima, TJP

                                    Ioane + AN other (Morgan, Love, Gatland, Burke, Gilbert ?)

                                    TUJ, PUJ, Nankivell + AN other (Sullivan, Proctor, Evans, Savea ?)

                                    Telea, Stevenson, Lam, Sullivan, Moorby (DMac ?)

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                                    @cgrant too many players. There will be unselected players in the AB squad who will be able to get an AB XV game.

                                    My mix would be something like below if the ABs take their standard size squad.

                                    5x props
                                    3x hookers
                                    3x locks
                                    4x loose forwards
                                    2x halfbacks
                                    2x 1st 5s
                                    3x midfielders
                                    3x outside backs

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                                      @cgrant too many players. There will be unselected players in the AB squad who will be able to get an AB XV game.

                                      My mix would be something like below if the ABs take their standard size squad.

                                      5x props
                                      3x hookers
                                      3x locks
                                      4x loose forwards
                                      2x halfbacks
                                      2x 1st 5s
                                      3x midfielders
                                      3x outside backs

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                                      @ACT-Crusader Yep, that makes a lot of sense.

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                                        It will be hard to move players from the ABs to the AB XV as there will be clashes with the AB tests against Scotland and England.

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                                          It will be hard to move players from the ABs to the AB XV as there will be clashes with the AB tests against Scotland and England.

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                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

                                          It will be hard to move players from the ABs to the AB XV as there will be clashes with the AB tests against Scotland and England.

                                          On game day you have your selected 23 plus a few others should there be injuries in the warmups. But not every one of the 12 or 13 would be on standby once the 23 is selected. The fact they are on the same weekend shouldn’t matter.

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