All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship
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If they're not going to play Sotutu until Argentina at the earliest, it might be good to get him some kind of game time.
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Statement from NZ Rugby boss Mark Robinson following the squad announcement:
"The past fortnight has been a challenging time for us and of course our fans.
“There have been some thorough conversations this week, as there always are around our performance environments, and these will continue.
“It’s exciting to be heading back to South Africa for the first time in several years - we have two big games ahead of us there and our focus now is to support the team to improve performance and be successful.””
I fucking knew it!
@Machpants LOL
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@Frye said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@akan004 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SA paying $2.75 to win the RC. Get on it.
Not sure about that but I will be backing the Wobs to win the Bledisloe if Cooper is fit again.
Only 2 bled games this year, one at Eden park, Oz need to win both. Even foster follies will probably retain the bled. My prediction, 2 losses Vs SA, shared games Vs Oz and Arg. World ranking 7th by the end
@Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Frye said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@akan004 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SA paying $2.75 to win the RC. Get on it.
Not sure about that but I will be backing the Wobs to win the Bledisloe if Cooper is fit again.
Only 2 bled games this year, one at Eden park, Oz need to win both. Even foster follies will probably retain the bled. My prediction, 2 losses Vs SA, shared games Vs Oz and Arg. World ranking 7th by the end
Foster keeps lowering the bar. A loss at Eden Park is absolutely on the cards.
Bank on it.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
That's a realistic assessment.
For all the wailing, there's no Jesus forwards waiting in the wings. I'm somewhat desperately and even hypocritically (because I've never been a massive fan) suggesting Jager, because he might be marginally better than what we've picked.
Having stuck with Sam Cane, we're going to be stuck with an unbalanced loose trio.
Sami T. can provide some modest improvement at hooker.
The big call they could have made is to bring in the unready Crusaders props - Newell and Williams - at least as apprentices - in the hope that by this time next year they'll be test ready.
There's a bit more that can be done in the backs.
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@Tim said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Wasn't Crucial talking some bollocks about humanitarian reasons for delaying the squad?
I said it was a possible reason. I had some facts about a certain player that I wont divulge that added to a very plausible reason.
@Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Tim said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Wasn't Crucial talking some bollocks about humanitarian reasons for delaying the squad?
I said it was a possible reason. I had some facts about a certain player that I wont divulge that added to a very plausible reason.
Was the same source that said Ardie was captain?
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Would be great if NZR management could explain this decision...
https://twitter.com/SamSachdevaNZ/status/1550321377202253824?s=20&t=DGr3TaXgxktKYwa6lDS4HA
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You can ask me a hundred times what that is and I won't be able to give you an answer just yet. I'd like you to bear with me, but we've got things in place right now and as soon as I can let you know a couple changes I'll let you know as soon as possible.
@Chris-B sounds like dry powder is back. I was getting a bit worried after we last saw a couple of scoops of it in the RWC19 quarter-final, but left drums of it in the hotel lobby before the semi-final.
Take a punt on de Groot against the Boks.
Play Scott Barrett for 80 and rotate the other locks.
Jordan at fullback.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
That's a realistic assessment.
For all the wailing, there's no Jesus forwards waiting in the wings. I'm somewhat desperately and even hypocritically (because I've never been a massive fan) suggesting Jager, because he might be marginally better than what we've picked.
Having stuck with Sam Cane, we're going to be stuck with an unbalanced loose trio.
Sami T. can provide some modest improvement at hooker.
The big call they could have made is to bring in the unready Crusaders props - Newell and Williams - at least as apprentices - in the hope that by this time next year they'll be test ready.
There's a bit more that can be done in the backs.
@Chris-B SA against the Boks not really a place for young inexperienced tight forwards to be fair. I think Razor was even protecting the young guns in SR as well. And kind of glad in a way Grace and co. not there either. If the structures and game plan were there to seamlessly fit in but.........
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
That's a realistic assessment.
For all the wailing, there's no Jesus forwards waiting in the wings. I'm somewhat desperately and even hypocritically (because I've never been a massive fan) suggesting Jager, because he might be marginally better than what we've picked.
Having stuck with Sam Cane, we're going to be stuck with an unbalanced loose trio.
Sami T. can provide some modest improvement at hooker.
The big call they could have made is to bring in the unready Crusaders props - Newell and Williams - at least as apprentices - in the hope that by this time next year they'll be test ready.
There's a bit more that can be done in the backs.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
That's a realistic assessment.
For all the wailing, there's no Jesus forwards waiting in the wings. I'm somewhat desperately and even hypocritically (because I've never been a massive fan) suggesting Jager, because he might be marginally better than what we've picked.
Having stuck with Sam Cane, we're going to be stuck with an unbalanced loose trio.
Sami T. can provide some modest improvement at hooker.
The big call they could have made is to bring in the unready Crusaders props - Newell and Williams - at least as apprentices - in the hope that by this time next year they'll be test ready.
There's a bit more that can be done in the backs.
i thought they may have bought newell in as well . williams is wonder if he has fitness required after watching him playing for the Maori
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@Chris-B SA against the Boks not really a place for young inexperienced tight forwards to be fair. I think Razor was even protecting the young guns in SR as well. And kind of glad in a way Grace and co. not there either. If the structures and game plan were there to seamlessly fit in but.........
@Old-Samurai-Jack Yeah - that's why I'm suggesting as apprentices.
As someone wrote a few weeks ago - the problem if we don't get them involved this year is that by next year it may be too late to save us - even if they're ready.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
That's a realistic assessment.
For all the wailing, there's no Jesus forwards waiting in the wings. I'm somewhat desperately and even hypocritically (because I've never been a massive fan) suggesting Jager, because he might be marginally better than what we've picked.
Having stuck with Sam Cane, we're going to be stuck with an unbalanced loose trio.
Sami T. can provide some modest improvement at hooker.
The big call they could have made is to bring in the unready Crusaders props - Newell and Williams - at least as apprentices - in the hope that by this time next year they'll be test ready.
There's a bit more that can be done in the backs.
i thought they may have bought newell in as well . williams is wonder if he has fitness required after watching him playing for the Maori
@ploughboy Williams is massive so I doubt he's got much stamina.
May never be a starter, but, as a bench prop he could eventually be devastating for 30 minutes.
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@ploughboy Williams is massive so I doubt he's got much stamina.
May never be a starter, but, as a bench prop he could eventually be devastating for 30 minutes.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@ploughboy Williams is massive so I doubt he's got much stamina.
May never be a starter, but, as a bench prop he could eventually be devastating for 30 minutes.
which is fine to when he has to play 60 + minute
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You can ask me a hundred times what that is and I won't be able to give you an answer just yet. I'd like you to bear with me, but we've got things in place right now and as soon as I can let you know a couple changes I'll let you know as soon as possible.
@Chris-B sounds like dry powder is back. I was getting a bit worried after we last saw a couple of scoops of it in the RWC19 quarter-final, but left drums of it in the hotel lobby before the semi-final.
Take a punt on de Groot against the Boks.
Play Scott Barrett for 80 and rotate the other locks.
Jordan at fullback.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
You can ask me a hundred times what that is and I won't be able to give you an answer just yet. I'd like you to bear with me, but we've got things in place right now and as soon as I can let you know a couple changes I'll let you know as soon as possible.
@Chris-B sounds like dry powder is back. I was getting a bit worried after we last saw a couple of scoops of it in the RWC19 quarter-final, but left drums of it in the hotel lobby before the semi-final.
Take a punt on de Groot against the Boks.
Play Scott Barrett for 80 and rotate the other locks.
Jordan at fullback.
Richie at 10, Will at fullback is certainly worth a crack.
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realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
Well I for one was hoping for a coach who might have a clue about what to do with those players. Insane, I know.
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What are you guys on?
Foster has just kept the same squad, except getting a couple of players back in, who we know he had hard-ons for.
He's going to play the same team in Test 1 in SA that he did in Test 1 vs Ireland.
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realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
Two changes in the tight 5 IMO. S Barrett returns and ST to start
Cane is captain and Savea & Ioane were two of the best players last Test. So no changes in the loosies.
What they do with the bench is more interesting. Hopefully Sotutu is given a chance
