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    Ennor.

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      https://twitter.com/stafnz/status/1550328032518631425

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

        @Chris-B Richie is not test level. The sooner DMac is available, I'd bring him in for Mo'unga on the bench.

        According to you. 🙂

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        @Chris-B Well obviously lol, that's usually what forums are for......

        I know it's hard to accept as he's had massive success for your mighty Crusaders in a competition that is equivalent to the Scottish Soccer Premiership in terms of quality, but he's had about 35 tests now and has not succeeded. Time to move on (which they obviously won't).

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          Excused? 🤣 Don't you love PR speak.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            https://twitter.com/stafnz/status/1550328032518631425

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            @KiwiMurph making stuff up?

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            • TimT Tim

              @KiwiMurph making stuff up?

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              @Tim said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

              @KiwiMurph making stuff up?

              Sounds pretty specific to me

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                https://twitter.com/stafnz/status/1550328032518631425

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                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                https://twitter.com/stafnz/status/1550328032518631425

                If Jason Ryan is in what is Plumtree doing?

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                • KirwanK Kirwan

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                  https://twitter.com/stafnz/status/1550328032518631425

                  If Jason Ryan is in what is Plumtree doing?

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                  @Kirwan said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                  If Jason Ryan is in what is Plumtree doing?

                  Perhaps initially Ryan will just be given the scrum remit - or Ryan will take over a lot of what Plumtree is doing.

                  Incidentally I imagine Schmidt will take over a lot of the defence from McLeod

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                    Given Ryan is in the Robertson camp I think that, if this is true, a further change is coming sooner rather than later.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      Given Ryan is in the Robertson camp I think that, if this is true, a further change is coming sooner rather than later.

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                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                      Given Ryan is in the Robertson camp I think that, if this is true, a further change is coming sooner rather than later.

                      or he just wants the ABs to win

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                      • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                        @Chris-B Well obviously lol, that's usually what forums are for......

                        I know it's hard to accept as he's had massive success for your mighty Crusaders in a competition that is equivalent to the Scottish Soccer Premiership in terms of quality, but he's had about 35 tests now and has not succeeded. Time to move on (which they obviously won't).

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                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                        @Chris-B Well obviously lol, that's usually what forums are for......

                        I know it's hard to accept as he's had massive success for your mighty Crusaders in a competition that is equivalent to the Scottish Soccer Premiership in terms of quality, but he's had about 35 tests now and has not succeeded. Time to move on (which they obviously won't).

                        Richie's got a few blots on his copybook.

                        Perhaps the worst is his record against Ireland, where he's played 6 and lost 4.

                        Interestingly though, he came off the bench in five of those games and the most convincing victory was the only one he started - the RWC QF that we won.

                        I'm not sure he's that good coming off the bench. 🙂

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                          @Chris-B Well obviously lol, that's usually what forums are for......

                          I know it's hard to accept as he's had massive success for your mighty Crusaders in a competition that is equivalent to the Scottish Soccer Premiership in terms of quality, but he's had about 35 tests now and has not succeeded. Time to move on (which they obviously won't).

                          Richie's got a few blots on his copybook.

                          Perhaps the worst is his record against Ireland, where he's played 6 and lost 4.

                          Interestingly though, he came off the bench in five of those games and the most convincing victory was the only one he started - the RWC QF that we won.

                          I'm not sure he's that good coming off the bench. 🙂

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                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                          @Chris-B Well obviously lol, that's usually what forums are for......

                          I know it's hard to accept as he's had massive success for your mighty Crusaders in a competition that is equivalent to the Scottish Soccer Premiership in terms of quality, but he's had about 35 tests now and has not succeeded. Time to move on (which they obviously won't).

                          Richie's got a few blots on his copybook.

                          Perhaps the worst is his record against Ireland, where he's played 6 and lost 4.

                          Interestingly though, he came off the bench in five of those games and the most convincing victory was the only one he started - the RWC QF that we won.

                          I'm not sure he's that good coming off the bench. 🙂

                          Fixed

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                            So where are the bodies swinging from lamposts after a historically bad AB run culminating in us rolling over vs Ireland?

                            https://c.tenor.com/y3yWXLfL_SsAAAAC/praying-hoping.gif

                            Wait what???

                            https://c.tenor.com/HpbQmYr2CpwAAAAM/salty-salt-bae.gif

                            Fuck I'm salty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @Kirwan said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                              If Jason Ryan is in what is Plumtree doing?

                              Perhaps initially Ryan will just be given the scrum remit - or Ryan will take over a lot of what Plumtree is doing.

                              Incidentally I imagine Schmidt will take over a lot of the defence from McLeod

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                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                              @Kirwan said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                              If Jason Ryan is in what is Plumtree doing?

                              Perhaps initially Ryan will just be given the scrum remit - or Ryan will take over a lot of what Plumtree is doing.

                              Incidentally I imagine Schmidt will take over a lot of the defence from McLeod

                              Didn’t they already bring in Cron ?

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                If Jason Ryan is in what is Plumtree doing?

                                Perhaps initially Ryan will just be given the scrum remit - or Ryan will take over a lot of what Plumtree is doing.

                                Incidentally I imagine Schmidt will take over a lot of the defence from McLeod

                                Didn’t they already bring in Cron ?

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                                @Crucial said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                @Kirwan said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                If Jason Ryan is in what is Plumtree doing?

                                Perhaps initially Ryan will just be given the scrum remit - or Ryan will take over a lot of what Plumtree is doing.

                                Incidentally I imagine Schmidt will take over a lot of the defence from McLeod

                                Didn’t they already bring in Cron ?

                                Cron came in in an emergency situation before Test 1 only due to covid (Ryan was with Fiji for the Pacific Nations Cup)

                                Cron is helping coach the Black Ferns.

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                                  The problem is not really the squad and its players, it is the coaching staff and its approach. Look at the Chiefs forwards who will be in the plane to SA : they were immense in the semi final vs the Crusaders but looked completely lost in the 2nd and 3rd tests against Ireland. Look at the selection for the 2nd test with 3 "7s" in the back row. Tactically, it was a disaster. Defense is crap, attack is crap, even with front foot ball. Have you watched Ireland or France attacks ? Their backs come from deep, at top speed, with lots of decoys, while the NZ backs stand flat and motionless. I don't think all this could be fixed with Foster, Plumtree, Feek, Mooar and McLeod.

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                                    The problem is not really the squad and its players, it is the coaching staff and its approach. Look at the Chiefs forwards who will be in the plane to SA : they were immense in the semi final vs the Crusaders but looked completely lost in the 2nd and 3rd tests against Ireland. Look at the selection for the 2nd test with 3 "7s" in the back row. Tactically, it was a disaster. Defense is crap, attack is crap, even with front foot ball. Have you watched Ireland or France attacks ? Their backs come from deep, at top speed, with lots of decoys, while the NZ backs stand flat and motionless. I don't think all this could be fixed with Foster, Plumtree, Feek, Mooar and McLeod.

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                                    @cgrant said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                    The problem is not really the squad and its players, it is the coaching staff and its approach. Look at the Chiefs forwards who will be in the plane to SA : they were immense in the semi final vs the Crusaders but looked completely lost in the 2nd and 3rd tests against Ireland. Look at the selection for the 2nd test with 3 "7s" in the back row. Tactically, it was a disaster. Defense is crap, attack is crap, even with front foot ball. Have you watched Ireland or France attacks ? Their backs come from deep, at top speed, with lots of decoys, while the NZ backs stand flat and motionless. I don't think all this could be fixed with Foster, Plumtree, Feek, Mooar and McLeod.

                                    I agree, these coaches are making the players look worse than they are

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @Tim said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                      @KiwiMurph making stuff up?

                                      Sounds pretty specific to me

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                      @Tim said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                      @KiwiMurph making stuff up?

                                      Sounds pretty specific to me

                                      Happy if this is true but how does McLeod keep on retaining his position? Easily the worst defence coach in World Rugby.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        They have a plan!

                                        They should be forced to watch that Squidge video and respond on youtube.

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                                        @Tim said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                        They have a plan!

                                        Yep.

                                        Complex-Plan.jpg

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                                          They have a plan!

                                          Yep.

                                          Complex-Plan.jpg

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew ...that might be giving them too much credit

                                          i fear its more like this

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