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  • nzzpN nzzp

    @Chris-B said in Foster must go:

    To be fair, Sam Cane is a problem as captain if he doesn't command his place in the team anymore - and him getting subbed at the weekend was a bit indicative of that.

    Picking Sam Whitelock through to RWC is probably sensible. He's clearly commanding his place and surely will for the next 12 months - I just hope they don't think he has to play every game.

    You realise your two sentences are dissonant, right? A captain getting hooked is a problem, but a captain you don't expect to play every game isn't?

    Honestly, I'd sonner have Cane for 50-60 min, and then understnad the captaincy transfers. It's modern sport, I can live with it. Far rather that than the shambles we're going to see of dropping Cane for issues outside his control.

    England used to do this didn't they with the hooker? And SA with Bismarck if I remember rightly? Hell, name some co-captains; Ardie off the bench FFS.

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    Dan54
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    @nzzp said in Foster must go:

    @Chris-B said in Foster must go:

    To be fair, Sam Cane is a problem as captain if he doesn't command his place in the team anymore - and him getting subbed at the weekend was a bit indicative of that.

    Picking Sam Whitelock through to RWC is probably sensible. He's clearly commanding his place and surely will for the next 12 months - I just hope they don't think he has to play every game.

    You realise your two sentences are dissonant, right? A captain getting hooked is a problem, but a captain you don't expect to play every game isn't?

    Honestly, I'd sonner have Cane for 50-60 min, and then understnad the captaincy transfers. It's modern sport, I can live with it. Far rather that than the shambles we're going to see of dropping Cane for issues outside his control.

    England used to do this didn't they with the hooker? And SA with Bismarck if I remember rightly? Hell, name some co-captains; Ardie off the bench FFS.

    Yep not unusual for a captain to be hooked at, so we will see.

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @Chris-B said in Foster must go:

      @nzzp Yeah - I don't think we have any problem with players to play at 7.

      If you accept your captain can come off, and you can start Ardie on teh bench, then you have basically cracked the nut.

      The issue is still in the tight 5 selections and player development. PLayers are not getting better, and I don't know why.

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      @nzzp said in Foster must go:

      @Chris-B said in Foster must go:

      @nzzp Yeah - I don't think we have any problem with players to play at 7.

      If you accept your captain can come off, and you can start Ardie on teh bench, then you have basically cracked the nut.

      The issue is still in the tight 5 selections and player development. PLayers are not getting better, and I don't know why.

      Agreed. Co-captains or a vice captain.

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        'I'll tell you what I am. I'm incoherent. I'm pissed'

        This makes no sense at all, it's barely English

        “Let me tell you who I am, I’m strong, I’m resilient, I think I’ve proven that.

        “I believe I’ve got a great feel and relationship with my players. I’m strategic and I’m also accountable and I take that on board.

        “I promise you, I understand that and I’m really excited about the chance to show you what this team is made of”

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        • M Machpants

          'I'll tell you what I am. I'm incoherent. I'm pissed'

          This makes no sense at all, it's barely English

          “Let me tell you who I am, I’m strong, I’m resilient, I think I’ve proven that.

          “I believe I’ve got a great feel and relationship with my players. I’m strategic and I’m also accountable and I take that on board.

          “I promise you, I understand that and I’m really excited about the chance to show you what this team is made of”

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          Crucial
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          #975

          @Machpants said in Foster must go:

          'I'll tell you what I am. I'm incoherent. I'm pissed'

          This makes no sense at all, it's barely English

          “Let me tell you who I am, I’m strong, I’m resilient, I think I’ve proven that.

          “I believe I’ve got a great feel and relationship with my players. I’m strategic and I’m also accountable and I take that on board.

          “I promise you, I understand that and I’m really excited about the chance to show you what this team is made of”

          Does he actually know the meaning of the word accountable?

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @Machpants said in Foster must go:

            'I'll tell you what I am. I'm incoherent. I'm pissed'

            This makes no sense at all, it's barely English

            “Let me tell you who I am, I’m strong, I’m resilient, I think I’ve proven that.

            “I believe I’ve got a great feel and relationship with my players. I’m strategic and I’m also accountable and I take that on board.

            “I promise you, I understand that and I’m really excited about the chance to show you what this team is made of”

            Does he actually know the meaning of the word accountable?

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            #976

            @Crucial said in Foster must go:

            @Machpants said in Foster must go:

            'I'll tell you what I am. I'm incoherent. I'm pissed'

            This makes no sense at all, it's barely English

            “Let me tell you who I am, I’m strong, I’m resilient, I think I’ve proven that.

            “I believe I’ve got a great feel and relationship with my players. I’m strategic and I’m also accountable and I take that on board.

            “I promise you, I understand that and I’m really excited about the chance to show you what this team is made of”

            Does he actually know the meaning of the word accountable?

            Means the same to him as unacceptable means to Robertson. Nothing, just words to feed the media whilst doing nothing

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              BerniesCorner
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              Minimal change over at Stuff. There's absolutely no way progress can be made.

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                https://twitter.com/stafnz/status/1550328032518631425

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  https://twitter.com/stafnz/status/1550328032518631425

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                  @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

                  https://twitter.com/stafnz/status/1550328032518631425

                  id be happy with that

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                    #980

                    fan@ubuntu cd ../razor reboot

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      https://twitter.com/stafnz/status/1550328032518631425

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                      #981

                      @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

                      https://twitter.com/stafnz/status/1550328032518631425

                      Would that make Coventry the man in the hot seat at the Blues? He's probably ready.

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                        #982

                        Schmidt, MacDonald and Ryan is a good combo. Just ignore the other guy

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          Schmidt, MacDonald and Ryan is a good combo. Just ignore the other guy

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                          @Duluth said in Foster must go:

                          Schmidt, MacDonald and Ryan is a good combo. Just ignore the other guy

                          Is this even a thing? I thought Schmidt wasn't even travelling with the team

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                          • canefanC canefan

                            @Duluth said in Foster must go:

                            Schmidt, MacDonald and Ryan is a good combo. Just ignore the other guy

                            Is this even a thing? I thought Schmidt wasn't even travelling with the team

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                            #984

                            @canefan said in Foster must go:

                            @Duluth said in Foster must go:

                            Schmidt, MacDonald and Ryan is a good combo. Just ignore the other guy

                            Is this even a thing? I thought Schmidt wasn't even travelling with the team

                            We are talking post Africa.

                            Reading between the lines the likes of MacDonald, Ryan coming in (if true) would be post Africa. I'd suggest Schmidt taking a more involved role would happen then too.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @canefan said in Foster must go:

                              @Duluth said in Foster must go:

                              Schmidt, MacDonald and Ryan is a good combo. Just ignore the other guy

                              Is this even a thing? I thought Schmidt wasn't even travelling with the team

                              We are talking post Africa.

                              Reading between the lines the likes of MacDonald, Ryan coming in (if true) would be post Africa. I'd suggest Schmidt taking a more involved role would happen then too.

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                              @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

                              @canefan said in Foster must go:

                              @Duluth said in Foster must go:

                              Schmidt, MacDonald and Ryan is a good combo. Just ignore the other guy

                              Is this even a thing? I thought Schmidt wasn't even travelling with the team

                              We are talking post Africa.

                              Reading between the lines the likes of MacDonald, Ryan coming in would be post Africa. I'd suggest Schmidt taking a more involved role would happen then too.

                              I'm not sure they'll be able to get him to travel on tours, but i can live with him helping to reshape the defence from distance.

                              If they can get Ryan, it would be a very good pickup, but I would have thought both he and Panadol would be members of the Robertson team.

                              Razor could see himself right fucked if these guys turn it around (OK, I know I'm dreaming).

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                                fan@ubuntu cd ../razor reboot

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                                @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                                fan@ubuntu cd ../razor reboot

                                Que?

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  Schmidt, MacDonald and Ryan is a good combo. Just ignore the other guy

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                                  @Duluth said in Foster must go:

                                  Schmidt, MacDonald and Ryan is a good combo. Just ignore the other guy

                                  Would that put Leon in pole position post 2023?

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @Duluth said in Foster must go:

                                    Schmidt, MacDonald and Ryan is a good combo. Just ignore the other guy

                                    Would that put Leon in pole position post 2023?

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                                    Duluth
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #988

                                    @booboo

                                    or Ryan. If they start winning

                                    If the Crusaders don't win SR next year Ryan's reputation would increase too

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                                      #989

                                      Jason Ryan is contracted to Fiji until after the 2023 WC.
                                      If true the NZR would have to buy him out of the contract.

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        Jason Ryan is contracted to Fiji until after the 2023 WC.
                                        If true the NZR would have to buy him out of the contract.

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                                        Duluth
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                                        @Chris or he has an out clause

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                                        • ChrisC Chris

                                          Jason Ryan is contracted to Fiji until after the 2023 WC.
                                          If true the NZR would have to buy him out of the contract.

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                                          Stargazer
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                                          @Chris He might also want to stay loyal to Razor.

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