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  • boobooB booboo

    @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

    fan@ubuntu cd ../razor reboot

    Que?

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    @booboo said in Foster must go:

    @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

    fan@ubuntu cd ../razor reboot

    Que?

    His username is "fan"
    He has, for some bizarre reason, named his computer after an operating system.
    And believes that if he issues the "reboot" command from within a certain directory, that'll change which version of the kernel is used after said reboot.
    Clear?

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @Stargazer said in Foster must go:

      @Duluth Why do you always take the negative approach?

      I'm taking the positive approach. I don't think it's disloyal for a coach to accept a good job like that.

      It's a weird word to use when you are talking about an AB position vs a SR job

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      #999

      @Duluth Correct word or not; you know what I meant, don't you? Ryan might prefer to work with Robertson, and decline a job working for another head coach. Considering Brown did the same thing, it's not such a strange idea.

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @Stargazer said in Foster must go:

        He might also want to stay loyal to Razor.

        I don't think accepting the job of forwards coach for the ABs would be disloyal to anyone.

        Do you think Robertson is the sort of person that would pressure on him? That would be gross.

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        @Duluth said in Foster must go:

        @Stargazer said in Foster must go:

        He might also want to stay loyal to Razor.

        I don't think accepting the job of forwards coach for the ABs would be disloyal to anyone.

        Do you think Robertson is the sort of person that would pressure on him? That would be gross.

        No Razor would pat him on the back and wish him well.

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @Chris or he has an out clause

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          @Duluth said in Foster must go:

          @Chris or he has an out clause

          He could have.

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @Duluth said in Foster must go:

            @Stargazer said in Foster must go:

            He might also want to stay loyal to Razor.

            I don't think accepting the job of forwards coach for the ABs would be disloyal to anyone.

            Do you think Robertson is the sort of person that would pressure on him? That would be gross.

            No Razor would pat him on the back and wish him well.

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            @Chris said in Foster must go:

            @Duluth said in Foster must go:

            @Stargazer said in Foster must go:

            He might also want to stay loyal to Razor.

            I don't think accepting the job of forwards coach for the ABs would be disloyal to anyone.

            Do you think Robertson is the sort of person that would pressure on him? That would be gross.

            No Razor would pat him on the back and wish him well.

            I agree. It'd be a big promotion and opportunity. I'm sure he'd be happy for him

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @Chris said in Foster must go:

              @Duluth said in Foster must go:

              @Stargazer said in Foster must go:

              He might also want to stay loyal to Razor.

              I don't think accepting the job of forwards coach for the ABs would be disloyal to anyone.

              Do you think Robertson is the sort of person that would pressure on him? That would be gross.

              No Razor would pat him on the back and wish him well.

              I agree. It'd be a big promotion and opportunity. I'm sure he'd be happy for him

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              @Duluth Nobody suggested otherwise.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @Duluth Nobody suggested otherwise.

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                @Stargazer It could also be seen as an olive branch to Razor

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @Stargazer It could also be seen as an olive branch to Razor

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                  @KiwiMurph How do you mean?

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @KiwiMurph How do you mean?

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                    @Stargazer said in Foster must go:

                    @KiwiMurph How do you mean?

                    As a sign of recognising the great work being done at the Crusaders. Whilst Razor missed out in 2019 (presumably with Ryan in his coaching group and possibly Leon?) on the AB job that we aren't freezing you/your team out. Ryan has got some international experience since then with Fiji too - basically showing that his chances are higher with NZR than they were in 2019.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @Stargazer It could also be seen as an olive branch to Razor

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                      African Monkey
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                      @KiwiMurph Was thinking the same thing.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @Stargazer said in Foster must go:

                        @KiwiMurph How do you mean?

                        As a sign of recognising the great work being done at the Crusaders. Whilst Razor missed out in 2019 (presumably with Ryan in his coaching group and possibly Leon?) on the AB job that we aren't freezing you/your team out. Ryan has got some international experience since then with Fiji too - basically showing that his chances are higher with NZR than they were in 2019.

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                        @KiwiMurph yep, maybe he might also see this as too good an opportunity to knock back, even if Razor has said he is not interested right now, and if things go as most expect, would make Razors transition if he is still keen next year that bit easier

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          @Stargazer said in Foster must go:

                          @KiwiMurph How do you mean?

                          As a sign of recognising the great work being done at the Crusaders. Whilst Razor missed out in 2019 (presumably with Ryan in his coaching group and possibly Leon?) on the AB job that we aren't freezing you/your team out. Ryan has got some international experience since then with Fiji too - basically showing that his chances are higher with NZR than they were in 2019.

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                          @KiwiMurph Do you mean that they could be offering Ryan an ABs assistant job to reel in Razor (a year early, before the RWC)? If not, then I see at best an olive branch being offered to the Crusaders, not so much to Razor.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            @KiwiMurph Do you mean that they could be offering Ryan an ABs assistant job to reel in Razor (a year early, before the RWC)? If not, then I see at best an olive branch being offered to the Crusaders, not so much to Razor.

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                            @Stargazer said in Foster must go:

                            @KiwiMurph Do you mean that they could be offering Ryan an ABs assistant job to reel in Razor (a year early, before the RWC)? If not, then I see at best an olive branch being offered to the Crusaders, not so much to Razor.

                            Basically yeah - or if not a year early - making sure Razor applies post 2023 RWC (or whenever they do the new coach search if Foster isn't canned beforehand).

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                              or robertson played hard ball as per rumors earlier in week and ryan is a better card player than him and decided he had more to gain inside the camp than outside

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                                The Foster press conference was a joke This Fucking guy is delusional. If we get through the quarter finals of the Wold cup I will be amazed. Just admit that you are not up to it and resign gracefully. Any other coach in any other sport would be sacked by now. This is not about U Foster, it is what is best for the team and you may be a good bloke and all but you are not it. Enough said..

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                                  #1013

                                  This saga shows how bloody hard it is to change a structure where the top tier needs changing

                                  NZR/Head Coach/Assistants/AB Captain/AB Players

                                  Pure speculation, but the best person to sort this out would be Whitelock. Ask him who do you want to run the show. He knows it all, been in a successful environment with Crusaders for years. Knows what works. Totally unfair on Whitelock of course. The situation is a mess.

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                                    What a crock of shit. The players deserve so much better than this train crash.

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                                    • KruseK Kruse

                                      @booboo said in Foster must go:

                                      @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                                      fan@ubuntu cd ../razor reboot

                                      Que?

                                      His username is "fan"
                                      He has, for some bizarre reason, named his computer after an operating system.
                                      And believes that if he issues the "reboot" command from within a certain directory, that'll change which version of the kernel is used after said reboot.
                                      Clear?

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                                      nostrildamus
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                                      @Kruse said in Foster must go:

                                      @booboo said in Foster must go:

                                      @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                                      fan@ubuntu cd ../razor reboot

                                      Que?

                                      His username is "fan"
                                      He has, for some bizarre reason, named his computer after an operating system.
                                      And believes that if he issues the "reboot" command from within a certain directory, that'll change which version of the kernel is used after said reboot.
                                      Clear?

                                      Well he is a fan of Ubantu (Linxux/Unix) operating system and he is using a shell command (UNIX) to change directory (CD) and reboot the system so I guess that is a geeky way of saying dump everybody and start afresh..

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @Kruse said in Foster must go:

                                        @booboo said in Foster must go:

                                        @BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:

                                        fan@ubuntu cd ../razor reboot

                                        Que?

                                        His username is "fan"
                                        He has, for some bizarre reason, named his computer after an operating system.
                                        And believes that if he issues the "reboot" command from within a certain directory, that'll change which version of the kernel is used after said reboot.
                                        Clear?

                                        Well he is a fan of Ubantu (Linxux/Unix) operating system and he is using a shell command (UNIX) to change directory (CD) and reboot the system so I guess that is a geeky way of saying dump everybody and start afresh..

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                                        nostrildamus
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                                        Glad you can understand but: Not just lost a series Mr Foster.

                                        "I believe in him as a person and as a leader..and the leadership group around him...high degree of accountability"... I can't tell you but "what this jersey demands is that we are honest with each other."

                                        I don't think I can make it through the Foster media debacle. Don't tell me he talks to the players like this!

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                                          Machpants
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                                          I think there is a lot of wishful thinking posts going on here. Schmidt is in for selection, and oopposition analysis. Nice, and it would be good if the ABs actually had one clue to deal with opposition play (they seem schocked again and again that the Irish run a lot of decoys). But he will not be taking a bigger role, he's a homebody for personal reasons, he'll be an asset but not game changing. The idea that getting Ryan in is to prep for Razor is ridiculous. All this is is re-arranging deck chairs, cos the rot is much higher. It maybe that Foster is rated well by the players, but that doesn't mean he is any good. Either, despite what he says, the players don't understand what he wants, or what he wants is what we have seen, utter kack tactics. Both ways, Foster is not good enough, and NZR has it's head so far up it's arse they believe their own press, it is a common sign in a failing business. Fuck, that was how the Vietnam war was run by the Yanks, no one wanted to pass on bad news and those at the top couldn't dmit they fucked it up. So they kept getting deeper in the shit.

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