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  • nzzpN nzzp

    @Chris-B said in Foster must go:

    @nzzp I guess all will be revealed, shortly.

    I don't think Cane will be dropped from the team - the question for me is whether Savea and/or Papali'i are our best 7s. In my view, Ardie probably is the best 7 - and playing him at 8 because they want him on the field is creating problems.

    I'd happily have Ardie at 7 or on the bench;

    Dalts/Cane/Ardie at 7

    Sotutu/Grace at 8

    ScoBa/AIoane at 6

    Broadly similar players that you can slot into patterns at 6/8 that you can sub in and out. Sotutu probably adds passing and Dalts running to the repertoire.

    Cane is a bloody good test player in the right trio. He has huge defensive strengths and workrate off the charts.

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    @nzzp said in Foster must go:

    @Chris-B said in Foster must go:

    @nzzp I guess all will be revealed, shortly.

    I don't think Cane will be dropped from the team - the question for me is whether Savea and/or Papali'i are our best 7s. In my view, Ardie probably is the best 7 - and playing him at 8 because they want him on the field is creating problems.

    I'd happily have Ardie at 7 or on the bench;

    Dalts/Cane/Ardie at 7

    Sotutu/Grace at 8

    ScoBa/AIoane at 6

    Broadly similar players that you can slot into patterns at 6/8 that you can sub in and out. Sotutu probably adds passing and Dalts running to the repertoire.

    Cane is a bloody good test player in the right trio. He has huge defensive strengths and workrate off the charts.

    Harmon/Suafoa/Grace showed what a balanced loosie trio could do against Ireland A.

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    • NepiaN Nepia

      @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

      @junior said in Foster must go:

      @Machpants “ It maybe that Foster is rated well by the players, but that doesn't mean he is any good”

      This several times over - why is anyone surprised that undroppable players rate the guy who refuses to drop them?

      Hammett was rated highly by the Canes players. I think players loving their coach too much is a red flag.

      Well that's not strictly true, he wasn't well liked by the ones who left (or a few of the young ones coming through). But agree that players liking coach too much can sometimes be a red flag. I'm sure Prinsep and Blackwell love Holland.

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      #1068

      @Nepia said in Foster must go:

      @No-Quarter said in Foster must go:

      @junior said in Foster must go:

      @Machpants “ It maybe that Foster is rated well by the players, but that doesn't mean he is any good”

      This several times over - why is anyone surprised that undroppable players rate the guy who refuses to drop them?

      Hammett was rated highly by the Canes players. I think players loving their coach too much is a red flag.

      Well that's not strictly true, he wasn't well liked by the ones who left (or a few of the young ones coming through). But agree that players liking coach too much can sometimes be a red flag. I'm sure Prinsep and Blackwell love Holland.

      Lol that's true, he decided the greatest 12 of all time was a negative influence on the teams culture. Such a misguided fool.

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      • P pakman

        @nostrildamus said in Foster must go:

        @Chris-B said in Foster must go:

        If I'm right about Plumtree being axed there will presumably be two new faces at the selection table and there might be more new faces in the team than I've been expecting.

        It might be Feek as well
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129348883/dramatic-day-looms-for-nz-rugby-as-all-blacks-assistants-and-captain-sam-cane-face-axe

        It is understood that Plumtree and Feek did not review favourably following the end-of-year tour in 2021, and players have again been consulted following the 2-1 home series defeat to Ireland.
        

        BUT
        https://punditarena.com/rugby/eoin-harte/tadhg-furlong-greg-feek-springboks/

        Tadhg Furlong has praised the influence former Leinster and Ireland scrum coach Greg Feek has had on his career ahead of the Lions’ test series with the Springboks.
        

        Something doesn't add up.

        The scrum wasn’t that big an issue against Irish, and when big Karl came on in first he owned Furlong.

        For me lineout/mauls were the set piece issue. So Ryan/Coventry in and Plumtree out.

        Oh, and out with dogshit D McLeod.

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        nostrildamus
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        #1069

        @pakman yes the irish prop admitted they lost the scum battle test 1 so the coaching staff tried something new. Changing tactics between games-outrageous!!

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        • P pakman

          @nzzp said in Foster must go:

          @Chris-B said in Foster must go:

          @nzzp I guess all will be revealed, shortly.

          I don't think Cane will be dropped from the team - the question for me is whether Savea and/or Papali'i are our best 7s. In my view, Ardie probably is the best 7 - and playing him at 8 because they want him on the field is creating problems.

          I'd happily have Ardie at 7 or on the bench;

          Dalts/Cane/Ardie at 7

          Sotutu/Grace at 8

          ScoBa/AIoane at 6

          Broadly similar players that you can slot into patterns at 6/8 that you can sub in and out. Sotutu probably adds passing and Dalts running to the repertoire.

          Cane is a bloody good test player in the right trio. He has huge defensive strengths and workrate off the charts.

          Harmon/Suafoa/Grace showed what a balanced loosie trio could do against Ireland A.

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          nostrildamus
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          #1070

          @pakman said in Foster must go:

          @nzzp said in Foster must go:

          @Chris-B said in Foster must go:

          @nzzp I guess all will be revealed, shortly.

          I don't think Cane will be dropped from the team - the question for me is whether Savea and/or Papali'i are our best 7s. In my view, Ardie probably is the best 7 - and playing him at 8 because they want him on the field is creating problems.

          I'd happily have Ardie at 7 or on the bench;

          Dalts/Cane/Ardie at 7

          Sotutu/Grace at 8

          ScoBa/AIoane at 6

          Broadly similar players that you can slot into patterns at 6/8 that you can sub in and out. Sotutu probably adds passing and Dalts running to the repertoire.

          Cane is a bloody good test player in the right trio. He has huge defensive strengths and workrate off the charts.

          Harmon/Suafoa/Grace showed what a balanced loosie trio could do against Ireland A.

          They may also have been coached..

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            Kid Chocolate
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            #1071

            i just returned from a week in the remote wilderness, untethered to ‘news,’ only to be a little bit dismayed and a whole lot disappointed to discover he wasn’t shitcanned five days ago. Wtf?

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            • P ploughboy

              he peaked as loosehead len

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              DaGrubster
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              #1072

              @ploughboy

              He was never the same once he retired Susan from Herne bay

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                @ploughboy

                He was never the same once he retired Susan from Herne bay

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                Dan54
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                #1073

                @DaGrubster said in Foster must go:

                @ploughboy

                He was never the same once he retired Susan from Herne bay

                Yep Grubs, it took me sometime to get into hiw serious write up after Susan, don't mean that in bad way, just would see his name have have a grin!

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                  KiwiMurph
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                  #1074

                  Crusaders social media saying Ryan has taken ABs coaching gig

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                    KiwiMurph
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                    #1075

                    https://mobile.twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1551008679679238144

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      https://mobile.twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1551008679679238144

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                      gt12
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                      #1076

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                      https://mobile.twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1551008679679238144

                      Has it disappeared? Looks like they got the scheduling wrong on that one?

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                        Tim
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                        #1077

                        https://twitter.com/paulcullystuff/status/1551003204871106560?s=20&t=qWAKKVt9pFueRgmfBqnrbg

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                          #1078

                          Hopefully Schmidt will run defence, even if he doesn't travel with the team.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Hopefully Schmidt will run defence, even if he doesn't travel with the team.

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                            gt12
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1079

                            @Tim said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

                            Hopefully Schmidt will run defence, even if he doesn't travel with the team.

                            That post might indicate that Schmidt is taking over attack?

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                              taniwharugby
                              wrote on last edited by taniwharugby
                              #1080

                              @Tim or at least give McLeod a clue about defence, as I suspect this is where McLeod gets his structure from

                              6740635b-7883-4e94-9adb-32133f57ccf3-image.png

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                                booboo
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                                #1081

                                TSF be like:

                                FYZAdrHUYAEKS6Y.jpeg

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @Tim or at least give McLeod a clue about defence, as I suspect this is where McLeod gets his structure from

                                  6740635b-7883-4e94-9adb-32133f57ccf3-image.png

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                                  Stargazer
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                                  #1082

                                  @taniwharugby Yeah, because this is probably a bit too difficult:

                                  alt text

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                                    akan004
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                                    #1083

                                    https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1551017381287247872?t=DW_oXSmThmJ_cDrmifQ_qQ&s=19

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                                      Stargazer
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                                      #1084

                                      There is a "Newshub understands" article finishing with "More to come", but it doesn't add anything to what has already been posted.

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                                        Stargazer
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1085

                                        Official:

                                        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1551017381287247872

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                                          Stargazer
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                                          #1086

                                          Gutted for Fiji.

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