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Rugby Championship 2022

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @bayimports said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    you can potentially cope for twenty minutes

    it definitely changes your risk profiles anyway

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    @mariner4life said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    @bayimports said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

    you can potentially cope for twenty minutes

    it definitely changes your risk profiles anyway

    Agreed. We become more accepting of actions that can lead to RCs. That's not going to help us outside of this comp.

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      @Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @mariner4life yeah this really is the ambulance stuck on a ledge halfway down the cliff!

        Needs to be some work done with players, coaches, refs as well as plenty of rules or interpretations need work to reduce the number of cards.

        Only need to look at the ass of humanity that is social media to see all the calls for more cards! Man, imagine if Mealamu & Tana had tried to murder BoD in the age of social media!!

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        @taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

        @mariner4life yeah this really is the ambulance stuck on a ledge halfway down the cliff!

        Needs to be some work done with players, coaches, refs as well as plenty of rules or interpretations need work to reduce the number of cards.

        Only need to look at the ass of humanity that is social media to see all the calls for more cards! Man, imagine if Mealamu & Tana had tried to murder BoD in the age of social media!!

        that really depends on the direction of the card. I saw much much less after test 3 than i did after, say, test 1 and 2?

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          Vast majority of these RCs are 'foul play' due to being adjudged as reckless. That should be a difficult judgement to make from short slo-mo clips shown on stadium screens.
          I would be more than happy for YCs and a judiciary appearance (on report) in these cases.
          In no way does that mean acceptance of poor technique (which is what they are trying to achieve). Maybe the addition of fines (proceeds to player welfare organisations) would ensure more corporate adherence to the principles of risk reduced technique via coaching.

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          • WingerW Winger

            @Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late

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            @Winger said in Rugby Championship 2022:

            @Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late

            Yuck. I only just realised that. Back to the old days of cheese toasties and milo in the early hours.

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              Vast majority of these RCs are 'foul play' due to being adjudged as reckless. That should be a difficult judgement to make from short slo-mo clips shown on stadium screens.
              I would be more than happy for YCs and a judiciary appearance (on report) in these cases.
              In no way does that mean acceptance of poor technique (which is what they are trying to achieve). Maybe the addition of fines (proceeds to player welfare organisations) would ensure more corporate adherence to the principles of risk reduced technique via coaching.

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              @Crucial or like in real life, you have to attend driver training or anger management or similar to limit your sentence, have a coaching and/or tackling technique course players must attend post receiving a card for such incidents.

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              • WingerW Winger

                @Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late

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                @Winger said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                @Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late

                Yeah, that time sucks. I was leaning towards watching a replay for the first time that I can remember, but the coaching changes have renewed my interest. I'll wait to see what team is selected and then decide.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @Winger said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                  @Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late

                  Yeah, that time sucks. I was leaning towards watching a replay for the first time that I can remember, but the coaching changes have renewed my interest. I'll wait to see what team is selected and then decide.

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                  @Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                  @Winger said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                  @Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late

                  Yeah, that time sucks. I was leaning towards watching a replay for the first time that I can remember, but the coaching changes have renewed my interest. I'll wait to see what team is selected and then decide.

                  It couldn't be a worse time for nzers. And so easy to make it a lot better.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @Tim as much as i fucking haaaaate the current framework

                    this is a dumb ass decision that only negatively affects the teams involved in the long run. This is never going ahead in the rest of the rugby world (where there appears to be zero appetite) so why play at all under these conditions?

                    Also can we stop asking Owens to have a say in anything because he occasionally said funny stuff while reffing?

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                    @mariner4life said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                    Also can we stop asking Owens to have a say in anything because he occasionally said funny stuff while reffing?

                    Welshophobe.
                    17 years reffing experience, common sense suggestions that would help improve the ABs chances, what is not to love?

                    https://www.ruck.co.uk/the-games-out-of-control-nigel-owens-wants-five-law-changes-asap/

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @Winger said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                      @Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late

                      Yeah, that time sucks. I was leaning towards watching a replay for the first time that I can remember, but the coaching changes have renewed my interest. I'll wait to see what team is selected and then decide.

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                      @Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                      @Winger said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                      @Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late

                      Yeah, that time sucks. I was leaning towards watching a replay for the first time that I can remember, but the coaching changes have renewed my interest. I'll wait to see what team is selected and then decide.

                      i can't remember the last time i watched an over-night game live. On demand replays when i wake up is perfect thanks

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @Tim as much as i fucking haaaaate the current framework

                        this is a dumb ass decision that only negatively affects the teams involved in the long run. This is never going ahead in the rest of the rugby world (where there appears to be zero appetite) so why play at all under these conditions?

                        Also can we stop asking Owens to have a say in anything because he occasionally said funny stuff while reffing?

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                        @mariner4life said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                        @Tim as much as i fucking haaaaate the current framework

                        this is a dumb ass decision that only negatively affects the teams involved in the long run. This is never going ahead in the rest of the rugby world (where there appears to be zero appetite) so why play at all under these conditions?

                        Also can we stop asking Owens to have a say in anything because he occasionally said funny stuff while reffing?

                        That was my initial reaction but actually I don't care. I'd rather just watch a fair contest.

                        Ireland and NZ basically committed the same amount of red card offences in their series so it's hard to argue that Ireland are "better" behaved/conditioned than NZ anyway.

                        The more often we play under these variations maybe the NH brainiacs will come around to them.

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          @mariner4life said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                          Also can we stop asking Owens to have a say in anything because he occasionally said funny stuff while reffing?

                          Welshophobe.
                          17 years reffing experience, common sense suggestions that would help improve the ABs chances, what is not to love?

                          https://www.ruck.co.uk/the-games-out-of-control-nigel-owens-wants-five-law-changes-asap/

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                          @nostrildamus said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                          @mariner4life said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                          Also can we stop asking Owens to have a say in anything because he occasionally said funny stuff while reffing?

                          Welshophobe.
                          17 years reffing experience, common sense suggestions that would help improve the ABs chances, what is not to love?

                          https://www.ruck.co.uk/the-games-out-of-control-nigel-owens-wants-five-law-changes-asap/

                          Agree with all of those

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                            [link text](link https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300648450/sanzaar-to-continue-20-minute-red-card-law-trial-in-rugby-championshipurl)

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                              Good news

                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300648450/sanzaar-to-continue-20-minute-red-card-law-trial-in-rugby-championship

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                              @Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                              Good news

                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300648450/sanzaar-to-continue-20-minute-red-card-law-trial-in-rugby-championship

                              Dumb

                              It’s done

                              Move on

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                                https://twitter.com/rugbycomau/status/1552535775212105729

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                  @Winger said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                  @Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late

                                  Yeah, that time sucks. I was leaning towards watching a replay for the first time that I can remember, but the coaching changes have renewed my interest. I'll wait to see what team is selected and then decide.

                                  i can't remember the last time i watched an over-night game live. On demand replays when i wake up is perfect thanks

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                                  @mariner4life said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                  @Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                  @Winger said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                  @Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late

                                  Yeah, that time sucks. I was leaning towards watching a replay for the first time that I can remember, but the coaching changes have renewed my interest. I'll wait to see what team is selected and then decide.

                                  i can't remember the last time i watched an over-night game live. On demand replays when i wake up is perfect thanks

                                  Used to be a must , I had to watch them live , I think it was because as a kid the old man would wake me up and it became a tradition thing you just had to do ,

                                  But yeah cant be fucked now either , I think the last time was the 2015 WC .

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                                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                    @mariner4life said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                    @Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                    @Winger said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                    @Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late

                                    Yeah, that time sucks. I was leaning towards watching a replay for the first time that I can remember, but the coaching changes have renewed my interest. I'll wait to see what team is selected and then decide.

                                    i can't remember the last time i watched an over-night game live. On demand replays when i wake up is perfect thanks

                                    Used to be a must , I had to watch them live , I think it was because as a kid the old man would wake me up and it became a tradition thing you just had to do ,

                                    But yeah cant be fucked now either , I think the last time was the 2015 WC .

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                                    @kiwiinmelb said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                    @mariner4life said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                    @Bovidae said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                    @Winger said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                    @Bovidae pity SA don't play the game later. 5-7am would just mean up early. But 3-5am is too early and too late

                                    Yeah, that time sucks. I was leaning towards watching a replay for the first time that I can remember, but the coaching changes have renewed my interest. I'll wait to see what team is selected and then decide.

                                    i can't remember the last time i watched an over-night game live. On demand replays when i wake up is perfect thanks

                                    Used to be a must , I had to watch them live , I think it was because as a kid the old man would wake me up and it became a tradition thing you just had to do ,

                                    But yeah cant be fucked now either , I think the last time was the 2015 WC .

                                    you know what, that was probably mine too

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                                      There is still something about getting up or staying up to watch a test match live from SA or Europe. No way I ever did that for SR games from SA though. Midnight SR kickoffs from Perth might as well not exist for me either.

                                      I think one of the few times I couldn't watch a test live was when I was flying from LAX to Auckland (NZ vs SA in Dunedin). I did ask the crew for a final score though. 🙂

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                                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                        @Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                        Good news

                                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300648450/sanzaar-to-continue-20-minute-red-card-law-trial-in-rugby-championship

                                        Dumb

                                        It’s done

                                        Move on

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                                        #53

                                        @MiketheSnow said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                        @Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                        Good news

                                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300648450/sanzaar-to-continue-20-minute-red-card-law-trial-in-rugby-championship

                                        Dumb

                                        It’s done

                                        Move on

                                        Why? There’s two very valid views on this. Does one get to come out on top just because ? Even if the other sees it as detrimental?

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @MiketheSnow said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                          @Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                          Good news

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300648450/sanzaar-to-continue-20-minute-red-card-law-trial-in-rugby-championship

                                          Dumb

                                          It’s done

                                          Move on

                                          Why? There’s two very valid views on this. Does one get to come out on top just because ? Even if the other sees it as detrimental?

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                                          @Crucial said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                          @MiketheSnow said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                          @Machpants said in Rugby Championship 2022:

                                          Good news

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300648450/sanzaar-to-continue-20-minute-red-card-law-trial-in-rugby-championship

                                          Dumb

                                          It’s done

                                          Move on

                                          Why? There’s two very valid views on this. Does one get to come out on top just because ? Even if the other sees it as detrimental?

                                          World Rugby has said no dice

                                          No?

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