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    Carrigan gets 4 for the hip drop that breaks a leg

    Fair result.

    The NRL is now having to stamp out another wrestling style tackle brought about because of how disadvantageous a legs tackle is. A perfect snapping legs tackle only results in a quick play the ball and no marker. So it's two up top to slow everything down.

    And so yards after contact becomes this big thing. Which in turn leads to the crusher (because guys were turning their back and driving the legs) and now these where the 3rd guy is trying to get a semi-stationary player to the ground (who has legs like tree trunks).

    The rugby codes are definitely facing the same issue, how do we bring back the legs tackle? Rugby should be easy, if the guy is on the ground you can get at the ball. League? Fuck knows how they fix it

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      and while we are on the subject of the judiciary

      There a couple of absolute grub kiwi props running around this weekend who can consider themselves very very fucking lucky

      The giant cat JWH gave a not even subtle old-school "welcome to first grade" elbow to the face, just another in a long line of stupid niggly grubby acts, got fuck all (old JWH loves the niggle, but is prone to going missing when shit gets real tough. I will always remember him basically running away from Ben Teo a few years back)

      But he's got nothing on big Nelson at Melbourne. NAS got fined for the 22nd time this season for smashing Egan's teeth out. The bloke must have 85,000 carry-over points, but can't get suspended. The mental gymnastics the NRL had to use not to suspend him were a sight to behold. Absolutely disgraceful decision.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        and while we are on the subject of the judiciary

        There a couple of absolute grub kiwi props running around this weekend who can consider themselves very very fucking lucky

        The giant cat JWH gave a not even subtle old-school "welcome to first grade" elbow to the face, just another in a long line of stupid niggly grubby acts, got fuck all (old JWH loves the niggle, but is prone to going missing when shit gets real tough. I will always remember him basically running away from Ben Teo a few years back)

        But he's got nothing on big Nelson at Melbourne. NAS got fined for the 22nd time this season for smashing Egan's teeth out. The bloke must have 85,000 carry-over points, but can't get suspended. The mental gymnastics the NRL had to use not to suspend him were a sight to behold. Absolutely disgraceful decision.

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        @mariner4life NAS, in true Storm grub tradition gets a free pass. It’s breathtakingly unsurprising….

        Nothing ever surprises me when it comes to JWH. His legacy with reports and the judiciary is embarrassing to put it lightly.

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          @mariner4life NAS, in true Storm grub tradition gets a free pass. It’s breathtakingly unsurprising….

          Nothing ever surprises me when it comes to JWH. His legacy with reports and the judiciary is embarrassing to put it lightly.

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          @ACT-Crusader said in NRL 2022:

          It’s breathtakingly unsurprising

          if i ever end up in court, i want their lawyers representing me

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            and while we are on the subject of the judiciary

            There a couple of absolute grub kiwi props running around this weekend who can consider themselves very very fucking lucky

            The giant cat JWH gave a not even subtle old-school "welcome to first grade" elbow to the face, just another in a long line of stupid niggly grubby acts, got fuck all (old JWH loves the niggle, but is prone to going missing when shit gets real tough. I will always remember him basically running away from Ben Teo a few years back)

            But he's got nothing on big Nelson at Melbourne. NAS got fined for the 22nd time this season for smashing Egan's teeth out. The bloke must have 85,000 carry-over points, but can't get suspended. The mental gymnastics the NRL had to use not to suspend him were a sight to behold. Absolutely disgraceful decision.

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            @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

            and while we are on the subject of the judiciary

            There a couple of absolute grub kiwi props running around this weekend who can consider themselves very very fucking lucky

            But he's got nothing on big Nelson at Melbourne. NAS got fined for the 22nd time this season for smashing Egan's teeth out. The bloke must have 85,000 carry-over points, but can't get suspended. The mental gymnastics the NRL had to use not to suspend him were a sight to behold. Absolutely disgraceful decision.

            The only thing good about the fall out from NAS is that its not just a kiwi thing, all scribes and forums are all scratching their head around how a guy can lose 6 teeth and the aggressor gets a warning because they could not supposedly find enough evidence. Interestingly if they did find enough evidence and inflicted any penalty then the resulting injury also gets taken into account. This was a terrible act poorly punished.

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              in lighter news TMM becomes a warrior next year...signed

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                Carrigan gets 4 for the hip drop that breaks a leg

                Fair result.

                The NRL is now having to stamp out another wrestling style tackle brought about because of how disadvantageous a legs tackle is. A perfect snapping legs tackle only results in a quick play the ball and no marker. So it's two up top to slow everything down.

                And so yards after contact becomes this big thing. Which in turn leads to the crusher (because guys were turning their back and driving the legs) and now these where the 3rd guy is trying to get a semi-stationary player to the ground (who has legs like tree trunks).

                The rugby codes are definitely facing the same issue, how do we bring back the legs tackle? Rugby should be easy, if the guy is on the ground you can get at the ball. League? Fuck knows how they fix it

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                @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

                Carrigan gets 4 for the hip drop that breaks a leg

                Fair result.

                The NRL is now having to stamp out another wrestling style tackle brought about because of how disadvantageous a legs tackle is. A perfect snapping legs tackle only results in a quick play the ball and no marker. So it's two up top to slow everything down.

                And so yards after contact becomes this big thing. Which in turn leads to the crusher (because guys were turning their back and driving the legs) and now these where the 3rd guy is trying to get a semi-stationary player to the ground (who has legs like tree trunks).

                The rugby codes are definitely facing the same issue, how do we bring back the legs tackle? Rugby should be easy, if the guy is on the ground you can get at the ball. League? Fuck knows how they fix it

                Yep this is clearly an issue that no one has an answer to yet, especially when teams with wrestling coaches invent new ways of taking someone down

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                  @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

                  and while we are on the subject of the judiciary

                  There a couple of absolute grub kiwi props running around this weekend who can consider themselves very very fucking lucky

                  But he's got nothing on big Nelson at Melbourne. NAS got fined for the 22nd time this season for smashing Egan's teeth out. The bloke must have 85,000 carry-over points, but can't get suspended. The mental gymnastics the NRL had to use not to suspend him were a sight to behold. Absolutely disgraceful decision.

                  The only thing good about the fall out from NAS is that its not just a kiwi thing, all scribes and forums are all scratching their head around how a guy can lose 6 teeth and the aggressor gets a warning because they could not supposedly find enough evidence. Interestingly if they did find enough evidence and inflicted any penalty then the resulting injury also gets taken into account. This was a terrible act poorly punished.

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                  @bayimports said in NRL 2022:

                  @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

                  and while we are on the subject of the judiciary

                  There a couple of absolute grub kiwi props running around this weekend who can consider themselves very very fucking lucky

                  But he's got nothing on big Nelson at Melbourne. NAS got fined for the 22nd time this season for smashing Egan's teeth out. The bloke must have 85,000 carry-over points, but can't get suspended. The mental gymnastics the NRL had to use not to suspend him were a sight to behold. Absolutely disgraceful decision.

                  The only thing good about the fall out from NAS is that its not just a kiwi thing, all scribes and forums are all scratching their head around how a guy can lose 6 teeth and the aggressor gets a warning because they could not supposedly find enough evidence. Interestingly if they did find enough evidence and inflicted any penalty then the resulting injury also gets taken into account. This was a terrible act poorly punished.

                  read this shit

                  "We identified that Nelson creates space so there is no crusher and no force applied to Egan's neck. There was a couple of other things we had to clear - first the head slam; we see there was clear separation from Nelson's right arm as player Egan gets thrown to the ground. Nelson has a good grip with his left arm but there is clear separation, whereas in a head slam you would see that arm isolate the head and really slam it into the ground, so we cleared that.
                  
                  "Secondly was the dangerous contact aspect... in one of the back angles you can see Nelson gets a grip under Egan's left arm, and we believe Nelson's right arm was diagonal from that grip, across his chest.
                  
                  "There might be possibly minor contact at the end of the tackle with Nelson's forearm to the neck and chin area, but that was a minor contact. It was a forceful tackle which unfortunately results in Egan's head going into the ground."
                  
                  NRL's head of football Graham Annesley was at pains to reiterate the MRC acts independently from the governing body, and so the finger can't be pointed at his department.
                  

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                  This big fucking grub actually jumped to make sure he smashed Egan as hard as he could in the face. It's fucking astounding.

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                  • B bayimports

                    @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

                    Carrigan gets 4 for the hip drop that breaks a leg

                    Fair result.

                    The NRL is now having to stamp out another wrestling style tackle brought about because of how disadvantageous a legs tackle is. A perfect snapping legs tackle only results in a quick play the ball and no marker. So it's two up top to slow everything down.

                    And so yards after contact becomes this big thing. Which in turn leads to the crusher (because guys were turning their back and driving the legs) and now these where the 3rd guy is trying to get a semi-stationary player to the ground (who has legs like tree trunks).

                    The rugby codes are definitely facing the same issue, how do we bring back the legs tackle? Rugby should be easy, if the guy is on the ground you can get at the ball. League? Fuck knows how they fix it

                    Yep this is clearly an issue that no one has an answer to yet, especially when teams with wrestling coaches invent new ways of taking someone down

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                    @bayimports said in NRL 2022:

                    @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

                    Carrigan gets 4 for the hip drop that breaks a leg

                    Fair result.

                    The NRL is now having to stamp out another wrestling style tackle brought about because of how disadvantageous a legs tackle is. A perfect snapping legs tackle only results in a quick play the ball and no marker. So it's two up top to slow everything down.

                    And so yards after contact becomes this big thing. Which in turn leads to the crusher (because guys were turning their back and driving the legs) and now these where the 3rd guy is trying to get a semi-stationary player to the ground (who has legs like tree trunks).

                    The rugby codes are definitely facing the same issue, how do we bring back the legs tackle? Rugby should be easy, if the guy is on the ground you can get at the ball. League? Fuck knows how they fix it

                    Yep this is clearly an issue that no one has an answer to yet, especially when teams with wrestling coaches invent new ways of taking someone down

                    I found it quite sickening to watch. It wasn’t a play to deliberately hurt (like NAS and JWH), but it has always been a very high risk play. No doubt it’s coached and practiced, but it wouldn’t be practiced with the force and scenario like it played out.

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                      "There might be possibly minor contact at the end of the tackle with Nelson's forearm to the neck and chin area, but that was a minor contact. It was a forceful tackle which unfortunately results in Egan's head going into the ground."

                      Absolutely laughable.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @bayimports said in NRL 2022:

                        @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

                        and while we are on the subject of the judiciary

                        There a couple of absolute grub kiwi props running around this weekend who can consider themselves very very fucking lucky

                        But he's got nothing on big Nelson at Melbourne. NAS got fined for the 22nd time this season for smashing Egan's teeth out. The bloke must have 85,000 carry-over points, but can't get suspended. The mental gymnastics the NRL had to use not to suspend him were a sight to behold. Absolutely disgraceful decision.

                        The only thing good about the fall out from NAS is that its not just a kiwi thing, all scribes and forums are all scratching their head around how a guy can lose 6 teeth and the aggressor gets a warning because they could not supposedly find enough evidence. Interestingly if they did find enough evidence and inflicted any penalty then the resulting injury also gets taken into account. This was a terrible act poorly punished.

                        read this shit

                        "We identified that Nelson creates space so there is no crusher and no force applied to Egan's neck. There was a couple of other things we had to clear - first the head slam; we see there was clear separation from Nelson's right arm as player Egan gets thrown to the ground. Nelson has a good grip with his left arm but there is clear separation, whereas in a head slam you would see that arm isolate the head and really slam it into the ground, so we cleared that.
                        
                        "Secondly was the dangerous contact aspect... in one of the back angles you can see Nelson gets a grip under Egan's left arm, and we believe Nelson's right arm was diagonal from that grip, across his chest.
                        
                        "There might be possibly minor contact at the end of the tackle with Nelson's forearm to the neck and chin area, but that was a minor contact. It was a forceful tackle which unfortunately results in Egan's head going into the ground."
                        
                        NRL's head of football Graham Annesley was at pains to reiterate the MRC acts independently from the governing body, and so the finger can't be pointed at his department.
                        

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                        This big fucking grub actually jumped to make sure he smashed Egan as hard as he could in the face. It's fucking astounding.

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                        @mariner4life yep its complete bollocks and I also agree he jumped and he didn't miss either...and to top things off this bit

                        NRL's head of football Graham Annesley was at pains to reiterate the MRC acts independently from the governing body, and so the finger can't be pointed at his department. >>

                        So I will stand here and defend it, but you cant blame me..!!

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @bayimports said in NRL 2022:

                          @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

                          and while we are on the subject of the judiciary

                          There a couple of absolute grub kiwi props running around this weekend who can consider themselves very very fucking lucky

                          But he's got nothing on big Nelson at Melbourne. NAS got fined for the 22nd time this season for smashing Egan's teeth out. The bloke must have 85,000 carry-over points, but can't get suspended. The mental gymnastics the NRL had to use not to suspend him were a sight to behold. Absolutely disgraceful decision.

                          The only thing good about the fall out from NAS is that its not just a kiwi thing, all scribes and forums are all scratching their head around how a guy can lose 6 teeth and the aggressor gets a warning because they could not supposedly find enough evidence. Interestingly if they did find enough evidence and inflicted any penalty then the resulting injury also gets taken into account. This was a terrible act poorly punished.

                          read this shit

                          "We identified that Nelson creates space so there is no crusher and no force applied to Egan's neck. There was a couple of other things we had to clear - first the head slam; we see there was clear separation from Nelson's right arm as player Egan gets thrown to the ground. Nelson has a good grip with his left arm but there is clear separation, whereas in a head slam you would see that arm isolate the head and really slam it into the ground, so we cleared that.
                          
                          "Secondly was the dangerous contact aspect... in one of the back angles you can see Nelson gets a grip under Egan's left arm, and we believe Nelson's right arm was diagonal from that grip, across his chest.
                          
                          "There might be possibly minor contact at the end of the tackle with Nelson's forearm to the neck and chin area, but that was a minor contact. It was a forceful tackle which unfortunately results in Egan's head going into the ground."
                          
                          NRL's head of football Graham Annesley was at pains to reiterate the MRC acts independently from the governing body, and so the finger can't be pointed at his department.
                          

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                          This big fucking grub actually jumped to make sure he smashed Egan as hard as he could in the face. It's fucking astounding.

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                          @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

                          @bayimports said in NRL 2022:

                          @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

                          and while we are on the subject of the judiciary

                          There a couple of absolute grub kiwi props running around this weekend who can consider themselves very very fucking lucky

                          But he's got nothing on big Nelson at Melbourne. NAS got fined for the 22nd time this season for smashing Egan's teeth out. The bloke must have 85,000 carry-over points, but can't get suspended. The mental gymnastics the NRL had to use not to suspend him were a sight to behold. Absolutely disgraceful decision.

                          The only thing good about the fall out from NAS is that its not just a kiwi thing, all scribes and forums are all scratching their head around how a guy can lose 6 teeth and the aggressor gets a warning because they could not supposedly find enough evidence. Interestingly if they did find enough evidence and inflicted any penalty then the resulting injury also gets taken into account. This was a terrible act poorly punished.

                          read this shit

                          "We identified that Nelson creates space so there is no crusher and no force applied to Egan's neck. There was a couple of other things we had to clear - first the head slam; we see there was clear separation from Nelson's right arm as player Egan gets thrown to the ground. Nelson has a good grip with his left arm but there is clear separation, whereas in a head slam you would see that arm isolate the head and really slam it into the ground, so we cleared that.
                          
                          "Secondly was the dangerous contact aspect... in one of the back angles you can see Nelson gets a grip under Egan's left arm, and we believe Nelson's right arm was diagonal from that grip, across his chest.
                          
                          "There might be possibly minor contact at the end of the tackle with Nelson's forearm to the neck and chin area, but that was a minor contact. It was a forceful tackle which unfortunately results in Egan's head going into the ground."
                          
                          NRL's head of football Graham Annesley was at pains to reiterate the MRC acts independently from the governing body, and so the finger can't be pointed at his department.
                          

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                          This big fucking grub actually jumped to make sure he smashed Egan as hard as he could in the face. It's fucking astounding.

                          It's amazing the lengths they'll go to to deny what everyone can see. It's as if the judiciary forgets the rest of us have eyes.

                          In rugby that act would have him rubbed out for a month or more. Well, until SANZAAR stepped in...

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                            I’m not a big fan, but I thought Kent’s rant on NRL 360 last night on the NAS incident was very good.

                            I liked Luke Paton as a player but that was a disgraceful readout of the situation and justification

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                              For those who were wondering, I think this is the 'tackle' (assault) in question. That's fucking grubby:

                              https://wwos.nine.com.au/videos/nrl/nrl-nelson-asofa-solomona-tackle/cl68o3oaj00140jnxth1bpyk4

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                                https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2022-ricky-stuart-jaeman-salmon-spray-salmon-seeking-legal-action-stuart-not-backing-down-canberra-raiders-penrith-panthers-news/news-story/f548fd14255212351044aa489a6eeaf8

                                That's both funny and disturbingly disgusting at the same time. Doesn't matter what the player did, A coach shouldn't say shit like that...

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                                  I saw the spray before I knew the score, and instantly guessed the Raiders lost

                                  Stay classy Ricky you fuckhead.

                                  I hope the Raiders retain him forever.

                                  Imagine making the Panthers the good guys?

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                                    I saw the spray before I knew the score, and instantly guessed the Raiders lost

                                    Stay classy Ricky you fuckhead.

                                    I hope the Raiders retain him forever.

                                    Imagine making the Panthers the good guys?

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                                    @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

                                    I saw the spray before I knew the score, and instantly guessed the Raiders lost

                                    Stay classy Ricky you fuckhead.

                                    I hope the Raiders retain him forever.

                                    Imagine making the Panthers the good guys?

                                    Hardly the good guys after doing that. Did you watch at all?

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                                      @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

                                      I saw the spray before I knew the score, and instantly guessed the Raiders lost

                                      Stay classy Ricky you fuckhead.

                                      I hope the Raiders retain him forever.

                                      Imagine making the Panthers the good guys?

                                      Hardly the good guys after doing that. Did you watch at all?

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                                      @ARHS said in NRL 2022:

                                      @mariner4life said in NRL 2022:

                                      I saw the spray before I knew the score, and instantly guessed the Raiders lost

                                      Stay classy Ricky you fuckhead.

                                      I hope the Raiders retain him forever.

                                      Imagine making the Panthers the good guys?

                                      Hardly the good guys after doing that. Did you watch at all?

                                      Yep. Hardly the worst I have seen even this weekend

                                      But only one guy got called a weak gutted dog because he made someone's son cry in under 12s a decade ago

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                                        https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2022-ricky-stuart-jaeman-salmon-spray-salmon-seeking-legal-action-stuart-not-backing-down-canberra-raiders-penrith-panthers-news/news-story/f548fd14255212351044aa489a6eeaf8

                                        That's both funny and disturbingly disgusting at the same time. Doesn't matter what the player did, A coach shouldn't say shit like that...

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                                        @Mackerzzzz said in NRL 2022:

                                        https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2022-ricky-stuart-jaeman-salmon-spray-salmon-seeking-legal-action-stuart-not-backing-down-canberra-raiders-penrith-panthers-news/news-story/f548fd14255212351044aa489a6eeaf8

                                        That's both funny and disturbingly disgusting at the same time. Doesn't matter what the player did, A coach shouldn't say shit like that...

                                        Whitehead looked pretty stunned sitting next to Stuart when he unleashed.

                                        A swift apology has already come and we’ll see if the NRL do anything. It’s pretty dumb by Stuart.

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                                          Penrith breaking Ricky's mind probably wraps up top spot for the year.

                                          Cowboys keep getting it done and are now pretty much home for top 4

                                          Cronulla made hard work of the super limited Dragons but should be top 4 as well.

                                          Melbourne beating the Titans changes nothing

                                          Good Parramatta can win the comp. Bad Parramatta will go straight out. Which one turns up?

                                          No one wants to play the Bunnies. Latrell Mitchell might be the best player in the comp.

                                          Brisbane suddenly look shaky after two bad losses.

                                          The Warriors are just so fucking bad it's actually hard to put in to words. The worst for-and-against in a competition that includes the Tigers and the Titans. Their attack fucking sucks. Their defense has no heart. They quit very early on the weekend.
                                          I am not sad to see Walsh go, he's not very good, and can't defend for toffee. I'll take TMM over him all day at the moment. But the roster sucks across the board. And either Jones can't coach for shit either, or the players have no ability, because i see no difference to when Brown was there. Same pattern of play. Same lack of effort. Massive few years of building ahead.

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