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  • FrankF Frank

    Foster is an obvious example that if you take a sub-par leader of a group, eventually that group will start to fall apart and standards will slip. A rabble ensues. That is exactly what we have become.

    It is quite telling that a notable area of improvement was our maul defense - which Jason Ryan is in charge of.

    I think the players have lost faith in Fozzie and have lost, or are losing, confidence in themselves.

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    @Frank

    Agree and his time is now up

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      @Frank

      Agree and his time is now up

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      @Winger Wonder if Wayne Smith might be brought him for a consulting role of some kind. Surely the coaching transition is already in place.

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        @Winger Wonder if Wayne Smith might be brought him for a consulting role of some kind. Surely the coaching transition is already in place.

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        @SBW1 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

        @Winger Wonder if Wayne Smith might be brought him for a consulting role of some kind. Surely the coaching transition is already in place.

        I would appoint Robertson and let him decide re smith. But he might have his hands full

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          @Winger Wonder if Wayne Smith might be brought him for a consulting role of some kind. Surely the coaching transition is already in place.

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          @SBW1 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

          @Winger Wonder if Wayne Smith might be brought him for a consulting role of some kind. Surely the coaching transition is already in place.

          He's fixing the BFs

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            You'd like to think if we lose next weekend (as it would appear we will) then NZR need to come out from behind the rock and make a decision.

            It is crystal clear under Fozzies leadership things are going backwards at a rate of knots, NZR must start working on contingency plans, or accept he is there through 2023, where our fall from grace will be at the amusement of NH media.

            A line must be drawn, calls must be made.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              You'd like to think if we lose next weekend (as it would appear we will) then NZR need to come out from behind the rock and make a decision.

              It is crystal clear under Fozzies leadership things are going backwards at a rate of knots, NZR must start working on contingency plans, or accept he is there through 2023, where our fall from grace will be at the amusement of NH media.

              A line must be drawn, calls must be made.

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              @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

              You'd like to think if we lose next weekend (as it would appear we will) then NZR need to come out from behind the rock and make a decision.

              It is crystal clear under Fozzies leadership things are going backwards at a rate of knots, NZR must start working on contingency plans, or accept he is there through 2023, where our fall from grace will be at the amusement of NH media.

              A line must be drawn, calls must be made.

              Wait! What? Is that still an option?

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                @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                You'd like to think if we lose next weekend (as it would appear we will) then NZR need to come out from behind the rock and make a decision.

                It is crystal clear under Fozzies leadership things are going backwards at a rate of knots, NZR must start working on contingency plans, or accept he is there through 2023, where our fall from grace will be at the amusement of NH media.

                A line must be drawn, calls must be made.

                Wait! What? Is that still an option?

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                @Old-Samurai-Jack well you'd have to think if they dont kick him for touch before the EOYT, they wont?

                Just my opinion.

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                  Is Razor contracted to the NZRFU until end of 2023?

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                    Who would Robertson choose do you think? Robertson, O'Gara, Ryan and Schmidt would have a well rounded mix to it. Plenty of international experience plus the local knowledge.

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                    • chimoausC chimoaus

                      Who would Robertson choose do you think? Robertson, O'Gara, Ryan and Schmidt would have a well rounded mix to it. Plenty of international experience plus the local knowledge.

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                      @chimoaus probably cost them >$6m to get rid of Foz and then buy O'Gara out of his contract

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @chimoaus probably cost them >$6m to get rid of Foz and then buy O'Gara out of his contract

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                        @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                        @chimoaus probably cost them >$6m to get rid of Foz and then buy O'Gara out of his contract

                        Foster has until 2023 RWC I think. So surely not a huge amount for him. Maybe for Foster and his assistants (Plumtree etc) and buying out O'Gara. But would O'Gara shift now he's a successful head coach? And would the NZRU be keen on doing this again especially with a foreign coach

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          Is Razor contracted to the NZRFU until end of 2023?

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                          @canefan said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                          Is Razor contracted to the NZRFU until end of 2023?

                          2024 (with NZR)

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/scott-robertson-reveals-all-blacks-clause-in-new-crusaders-contract/

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                            @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                            @chimoaus probably cost them >$6m to get rid of Foz and then buy O'Gara out of his contract

                            Foster has until 2023 RWC I think. So surely not a huge amount for him. Maybe for Foster and his assistants (Plumtree etc) and buying out O'Gara. But would O'Gara shift now he's a successful head coach? And would the NZRU be keen on doing this again especially with a foreign coach

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                            @Winger said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                            @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                            @chimoaus probably cost them >$6m to get rid of Foz and then buy O'Gara out of his contract

                            Foster has until 2023 RWC I think. So surely not a huge amount for him. Maybe for Foster and his assistants (Plumtree etc) and buying out O'Gara. But would O'Gara shift now he's a successful head coach? And would the NZRU be keen on doing this again especially with a foreign coach

                            O'Gara seems to have a tight relationship with Robertson but yes you would think long term he would want to be an international head coach.

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                              @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                              @chimoaus probably cost them >$6m to get rid of Foz and then buy O'Gara out of his contract

                              Foster has until 2023 RWC I think. So surely not a huge amount for him. Maybe for Foster and his assistants (Plumtree etc) and buying out O'Gara. But would O'Gara shift now he's a successful head coach? And would the NZRU be keen on doing this again especially with a foreign coach

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                              @Winger again?

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                                Fuck Foster and his gaslighting

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @Winger again?

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                  @Winger again?

                                  Maybe referring to buying out Mooar was it? NZR paid $400K for Mooar to be released from Scarlets I think. That clearly was not money well spent lol.

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    Jesus Christ, what planet is he on?

                                    “I know people are frustrated, and we’re frustrated with the results,” he added, “But you don’t achieve growth if you get too panicky and start making dramatic changes and put too much pressure on players. We want them to feel the pressure tonight, understand what it’s like playing test matches over here, and we’ve got to be sharper in what we do

                                    No wonder the players love him, he's a useless fat soft teddy bear, all touchy feely, and no pressure

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300655892/our-most-improved-performance-this-year-ian-fosters-claim-after-all-blacks-outplayed

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                                    @Machpants said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                    Jesus Christ, what planet is he on?

                                    “I know people are frustrated, and we’re frustrated with the results,” he added, “But you don’t achieve growth if you get too panicky and start making dramatic changes and put too much pressure on players. We want them to feel the pressure tonight, understand what it’s like playing test matches over here, and we’ve got to be sharper in what we do

                                    No wonder the players love him, he's a useless fat soft teddy bear, all touchy feely, and no pressure

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300655892/our-most-improved-performance-this-year-ian-fosters-claim-after-all-blacks-outplayed

                                    Those are quotes that should be made by coaches of Tonga or Romania, not the fucken All Blacks !!!

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                                    • chimoausC chimoaus

                                      @Winger said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                      @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                      @chimoaus probably cost them >$6m to get rid of Foz and then buy O'Gara out of his contract

                                      Foster has until 2023 RWC I think. So surely not a huge amount for him. Maybe for Foster and his assistants (Plumtree etc) and buying out O'Gara. But would O'Gara shift now he's a successful head coach? And would the NZRU be keen on doing this again especially with a foreign coach

                                      O'Gara seems to have a tight relationship with Robertson but yes you would think long term he would want to be an international head coach.

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                                      @chimoaus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                      @Winger said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                      @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                      @chimoaus probably cost them >$6m to get rid of Foz and then buy O'Gara out of his contract

                                      Foster has until 2023 RWC I think. So surely not a huge amount for him. Maybe for Foster and his assistants (Plumtree etc) and buying out O'Gara. But would O'Gara shift now he's a successful head coach? And would the NZRU be keen on doing this again especially with a foreign coach

                                      O'Gara seems to have a tight relationship with Robertson but yes you would think long term he would want to be an international head coach.

                                      O’Gara would have his sights on getting into the Emerald Green coaching mix I would have thought but maybe some AC role with another first

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @Old-Samurai-Jack well you'd have to think if they dont kick him for touch before the EOYT, they wont?

                                        Just my opinion.

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                                        @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                        @Old-Samurai-Jack well you'd have to think if they dont kick him for touch before the EOYT, they wont?

                                        Just my opinion.

                                        Robinson wouldn't commit to Foster after Africa on radio the other day. Then the story came out that he will ask Foz to resign after Africa if ABs don't improve. Foster is gone.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:

                                          @Old-Samurai-Jack well you'd have to think if they dont kick him for touch before the EOYT, they wont?

                                          Just my opinion.

                                          Robinson wouldn't commit to Foster after Africa on radio the other day. Then the story came out that he will ask Foz to resign after Africa if ABs don't improve. Foster is gone.

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                                          @KiwiMurph Hence Foster saying it was the best performance of the year?

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