Springboks v All Blacks 2
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@Frank plus where would he go?
Seriously though, I think he genuinely seems to think he is on the right path, but I guess if all the players are giving good feedback to this effect, aside form the results, why wouldnt he?
@taniwharugby said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Seriously though, I think he genuinely seems to think he is on the right path, but I guess if all the players are giving good feedback to this effect, aside form the results, why wouldnt he?
Then he is MASSIVELY self-deluded.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
How can they not be in form? Most of the squad played in a SR Final. They played good rugby.
There's a bit of a difference between SR & Test rugby - which is why George Bridge isn't a Test winger.
OK so then who do you pick? If no one will make the step up...
The super final is the closest to test rugby we have.
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
OK so then who do you pick? If no one will make the step up...
Precisely my point.
The super final is the closest to test rugby we have.
And maybe it isn't close enough.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Selling optimism to pessimistic, tear them down, tall poppy syndrome New Zealand - no easy feat…
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Selling optimism to pessimistic, tear them down, tall poppy syndrome New Zealand - no easy feat…
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Selling optimism to pessimistic, tear them down, tall poppy syndrome New Zealand - no easy feat…
They are going to need more than a win. Only a solid well built win, not an under the cosh for 70 minutes and turn it on for 10 minutes type of win
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@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Selling optimism to pessimistic, tear them down, tall poppy syndrome New Zealand - no easy feat…
They are going to need more than a win. Only a solid well built win, not an under the cosh for 70 minutes and turn it on for 10 minutes type of win
@canefan said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Selling optimism to pessimistic, tear them down, tall poppy syndrome New Zealand - no easy feat…
They are going to need more than a win. Only a solid well built win, not a under the cosh for 70 minutes and turn it on for 10 minutes type of win
What is that?
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@canefan said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Selling optimism to pessimistic, tear them down, tall poppy syndrome New Zealand - no easy feat…
They are going to need more than a win. Only a solid well built win, not a under the cosh for 70 minutes and turn it on for 10 minutes type of win
What is that?
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Selling optimism to pessimistic, tear them down, tall poppy syndrome New Zealand - no easy feat…
They are going to need more than a win. Only a solid well built win, not a under the cosh for 70 minutes and turn it on for 10 minutes type of win
What is that?
Dunno, something similar to an 'aura'?
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@canefan said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Selling optimism to pessimistic, tear them down, tall poppy syndrome New Zealand - no easy feat…
They are going to need more than a win. Only a solid well built win, not a under the cosh for 70 minutes and turn it on for 10 minutes type of win
What is that?
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Selling optimism to pessimistic, tear them down, tall poppy syndrome New Zealand - no easy feat…
They are going to need more than a win. Only a solid well built win, not a under the cosh for 70 minutes and turn it on for 10 minutes type of win
What is that?
Something our opposition celebrates after the final whistle
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@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
So Foster is yet again going to be forced by injury to make the right selection decisions?
No ones out, all three barretts are available
@Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
So Foster is yet again going to be forced by injury to make the right selection decisions?
No ones out, all three barretts are available
Can't wait to see how jordie and beauds go when injured, after the amazing form they've been showing when healthy.
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@Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
So Foster is yet again going to be forced by injury to make the right selection decisions?
No ones out, all three barretts are available
Can't wait to see how jordie and beauds go when injured, after the amazing form they've been showing when healthy.
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
So Foster is yet again going to be forced by injury to make the right selection decisions?
No ones out, all three barretts are available
Can't wait to see how jordie and beauds go when injured, after the amazing form they've been showing when healthy.
Probably as well as everyone else has, bar Samisoni?
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@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
So Foster is yet again going to be forced by injury to make the right selection decisions?
No ones out, all three barretts are available
Can't wait to see how jordie and beauds go when injured, after the amazing form they've been showing when healthy.
Probably as well as everyone else has, bar Samisoni?
@Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Probably as well as everyone else has, bar Samisoni?
Good Hamiltonian pub name idea.
Bar Samisoni: bowl right on over. -
@Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
So Foster is yet again going to be forced by injury to make the right selection decisions?
No ones out, all three barretts are available
Can't wait to see how jordie and beauds go when injured, after the amazing form they've been showing when healthy.
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Machpants said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
So Foster is yet again going to be forced by injury to make the right selection decisions?
No ones out, all three barretts are available
Can't wait to see how jordie and beauds go when injured, after the amazing form they've been showing when healthy.
Being wounded will make them angry and dangerous
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@antipodean said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@booboo said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
This team, to my mind, is full of decent players who are less than the sum of it's parts.
I'm starting to believe the opposite. That we've a squad of players either not in form or exposed to Test rugby too early. Simply too many gaps in skills; other nations are finding and developing players while our famous depth is nowhere to be seen.
Predictability in attack shape just compounds the problem so now we don't know who is what.
How can they not be in form? Most of the squad played in a SR Final. They played good rugby. They step into the ABs and they turn to shit. Is that because they're out of form or because the coaching strategy is not working? 23 players can't be bad.
It doesn't require all 23 be bad, just sufficient aren't good enough. And as to whether they played well in SR, one has to keep in mind that was simply us playing ourselves and the Aussies. Flattered to deceive.
Who are the experienced players you propose to pick outside of the ones that are there?
That's broadly my point isn't it? We don't have the depth of 2007 and the experience of 2015. Both of those teams would towel the 2022 version the fuck up.
I'm coming around to the concept the malaise goes deeper than just the head coach.
@antipodean said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@antipodean said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
@booboo said in Springboks v All Blacks 2 (Fozzie's Swansong??):
This team, to my mind, is full of decent players who are less than the sum of it's parts.
I'm starting to believe the opposite. That we've a squad of players either not in form or exposed to Test rugby too early. Simply too many gaps in skills; other nations are finding and developing players while our famous depth is nowhere to be seen.
Predictability in attack shape just compounds the problem so now we don't know who is what.
How can they not be in form? Most of the squad played in a SR Final. They played good rugby. They step into the ABs and they turn to shit. Is that because they're out of form or because the coaching strategy is not working? 23 players can't be bad.
It doesn't require all 23 be bad, just sufficient aren't good enough. And as to whether they played well in SR, one has to keep in mind that was simply us playing ourselves and the Aussies. Flattered to deceive.
Who are the experienced players you propose to pick outside of the ones that are there?
That's broadly my point isn't it? We don't have the depth of 2007 and the experience of 2015. Both of those teams would towel the 2022 version the fuck up.
I'm coming around to the concept the malaise goes deeper than just the head coach.
It definitely does but that is why having a good coaching team is so important!
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@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Young Canan Moodie call up in Bok squad
Just watched first half of 100th test.
Much the same teams. Boks much more error prone. Puts first half Saturday into proper perspective.
But ABs also. Differences that Jordie and Will J catching high ball (NOT Bridge though), Blackadder most energetic loosie on pitch, and when AB backs cocked up, they just regrouped and kept probing, which led to Jordan try after sensational scrambling by Taylor.
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@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
Young Canan Moodie call up in Bok squad
Just watched first half of 100th test.
Much the same teams. Boks much more error prone. Puts first half Saturday into proper perspective.
But ABs also. Differences that Jordie and Will J catching high ball (NOT Bridge though), Blackadder most energetic loosie on pitch, and when AB backs cocked up, they just regrouped and kept probing, which led to Jordan try after sensational scrambling by Taylor.
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@pakman the Boks had an advantage after WC 2019. Lost only a handful players and have the same coaches. Unfortunately Covid strike but we get there again. Wales gave us a hard series.
@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@pakman the Boks had an advantage after WC 2019. Lost only a handful players and have the same coaches. Unfortunately Covid strike but we get there again. Wales gave us a hard series.
Hearing Marx speak, he's a real exemplar for Springbok rugby. It is clear your squad is 'tight as'.
Something is wrong in AB squad (and not just a coaching issue). It's as if there's some sort of cover up. Very odd.
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@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@pakman the Boks had an advantage after WC 2019. Lost only a handful players and have the same coaches. Unfortunately Covid strike but we get there again. Wales gave us a hard series.
Hearing Marx speak, he's a real exemplar for Springbok rugby. It is clear your squad is 'tight as'.
Something is wrong in AB squad (and not just a coaching issue). It's as if there's some sort of cover up. Very odd.
@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:
@pakman the Boks had an advantage after WC 2019. Lost only a handful players and have the same coaches. Unfortunately Covid strike but we get there again. Wales gave us a hard series.
Hearing Marx speak, he's a real exemplar for Springbok rugby. It is clear your squad is 'tight as'.
Something is wrong in AB squad (and not just a coaching issue). It's as if there's some sort of cover up. Very odd.
I think they all know Fozz is shit, but they don't want to say because he's a nice guy
