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Springboks v All Blacks 2

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  • OomPBO OomPB

    @MiketheSnow I was more thinking on the principles of Springbok rugby since day back when. Doc Craven describe Springbok rugby "maak eers voor sag, Dan slaan met die agterlyn" Not sue to describe it in English " soften up opposition with the forwards then hit with the backline"

    Despite the kicking gameplan by Rasnaber which I hate more then anyone else, the Springbok bomb squad has been working and developed well since before the WC 2019. We saw that again on Saturday.

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    @OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

    @MiketheSnow I was more thinking on the principles of Springbok rugby since day back when. Doc Craven describe Springbok rugby "maak eers voor sag, Dan slaan met die agterlyn" Not sue to describe it in English " soften up opposition with the forwards then hit with the backline"

    Despite the kicking gameplan by Rasnaber which I hate more then anyone else, the Springbok bomb squad has been working and developed well since before the WC 2019. We saw that again on Saturday.

    Bok commentators on UK Sky kept wondering aloud why ABs weren’t seeking gain line before hitting 10.

    Boks have a plan where they seldom seem to seek big breaks, but forwards run in twos, so that cleaner is always right behind.

    So series of 3m gains rather than aiming for 5m through hole but running away from support.

    KISS is working for them, and allows pressure to be applied very successfully.

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      @SidBarret said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

      Its probably to late to save Fosters job, but at this rate they might lose the fans completely

      only need to see the attitude from some on here, who would describe themselves as rugby tragics: I didnt watch the last test, bar a 10 min highlight package, and bailed at half time in the last Irish test...I am looking forward to attending an afternoon NPC match on Saturday though!

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      • TimT Tim

        Will Jordan is in doubt for the All Blacks second test against the Springboks at Ellis Park this weekend due to a stomach bug.

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-springboks-will-jordan-in-doubt-for-second-test/77LZNSRQEJWBHDEIHHI6AYZYAY/

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        @Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

        Will Jordan is in doubt for the All Blacks second test against the Springboks at Ellis Park this weekend due to a stomach bug.

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-springboks-will-jordan-in-doubt-for-second-test/77LZNSRQEJWBHDEIHHI6AYZYAY/

        Foster will be adding that to his excuse matrix.

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          @Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

          Will Jordan is in doubt for the All Blacks second test against the Springboks at Ellis Park this weekend due to a stomach bug.

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-springboks-will-jordan-in-doubt-for-second-test/77LZNSRQEJWBHDEIHHI6AYZYAY/

          That would explain why he was off the pace on Saturday.

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          @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

          @Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

          Will Jordan is in doubt for the All Blacks second test against the Springboks at Ellis Park this weekend due to a stomach bug.

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-springboks-will-jordan-in-doubt-for-second-test/77LZNSRQEJWBHDEIHHI6AYZYAY/

          That would explain why he was off the pace on Saturday.

          Suzie strikes again

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            So shaping up as

            10 - R. Mo’unga
            11 - C. Clarke
            12 - D. Havili / Q. Tupaea
            13 - R. Ioane
            14 - S. Reece / L. Fainga'anuku
            15 - B. Barrett

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              So shaping up as

              10 - R. Mo’unga
              11 - C. Clarke
              12 - D. Havili / Q. Tupaea
              13 - R. Ioane
              14 - S. Reece / L. Fainga'anuku
              15 - B. Barrett

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              @ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

              So shaping up as

              10 -R. Mo’unga
              11 - C. Clarke
              12 - D. Havili / Q. Tupaea
              13 - R. Ioane
              14 - S. Reece / L. Fainga'anuku
              15 - B. Barrett

              Cos those two operate together so well.

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                @taniwharugby it never rains, it pours.

                The whole rugby internet is piling in on the All Blacks and Foster come out with the "best performancevof the year " and now this.

                Its probably to late to save Fosters job, but at this rate they might lose the fans completely

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                @SidBarret said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                @taniwharugby it never rains, it pours.

                The whole rugby internet is piling in on the All Blacks and Foster come out with the "best performancevof the year " and now this.

                Its probably to late to save Fosters job, but at this rate they might lose the fans completely

                Yep. It's never been about the losing. These things come in cycles, and I think with professionalism you have to accept we can't expect to maintain the levels we have.

                What we can expect though, is a team looking cohesive, together and trying to execute some sort of a game plan. If the Boks / Irish beat that game plan then so be it. It's tough but it's acceptable.

                We've got none of those 3 things. None.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  So shaping up as

                  10 - R. Mo’unga
                  11 - C. Clarke
                  12 - D. Havili / Q. Tupaea
                  13 - R. Ioane
                  14 - S. Reece / L. Fainga'anuku
                  15 - B. Barrett

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                  So shaping up as

                  10 - R. Mo’unga
                  11 - C. Clarke
                  12 - D. Havili / Q. Tupaea
                  13 - R. Ioane
                  14 - S. Reece / L. Fainga'anuku
                  15 - B. Barrett

                  Good God

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                  • MajorPomM MajorPom

                    @SidBarret said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                    @taniwharugby it never rains, it pours.

                    The whole rugby internet is piling in on the All Blacks and Foster come out with the "best performancevof the year " and now this.

                    Its probably to late to save Fosters job, but at this rate they might lose the fans completely

                    Yep. It's never been about the losing. These things come in cycles, and I think with professionalism you have to accept we can't expect to maintain the levels we have.

                    What we can expect though, is a team looking cohesive, together and trying to execute some sort of a game plan. If the Boks / Irish beat that game plan then so be it. It's tough but it's acceptable.

                    We've got none of those 3 things. None.

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                    @MajorRage said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                    @SidBarret said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                    @taniwharugby it never rains, it pours.

                    The whole rugby internet is piling in on the All Blacks and Foster come out with the "best performancevof the year " and now this.

                    Its probably to late to save Fosters job, but at this rate they might lose the fans completely

                    Yep. It's never been about the losing. These things come in cycles, and I think with professionalism you have to accept we can't expect to maintain the levels we have.

                    What we can expect though, is a team looking cohesive, together and trying to execute some sort of a game plan. If the Boks / Irish beat that game plan then so be it. It's tough but it's acceptable.

                    We've got none of those 3 things. None.

                    But this shows that issues go beyond just the rugby, they are starting to make unforced errors off the pitch as well.

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                      https://www.springboks.rugby/news-features/articles/2022/08/09/vermeulen-back-as-malherbe-earns-50th-bok-cap/

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                        @Stargazer said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

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                        https://www.springboks.rugby/news-features/articles/2022/08/09/vermeulen-back-as-malherbe-earns-50th-bok-cap/

                        We're going to get smashed again

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Will Jordan is in doubt for the All Blacks second test against the Springboks at Ellis Park this weekend due to a stomach bug.

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-springboks-will-jordan-in-doubt-for-second-test/77LZNSRQEJWBHDEIHHI6AYZYAY/

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                          @Tim Suzie?

                          I guess when it rains it pours. The only silver lining would be an opportunity for Perofeta.

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                            @Stargazer

                            Dont like the Kriel selection or seeing Wiese still there (though he had a good game last week) otherwise good.

                            Think Marx should have got another start, but hell probably get 45 minutes so it should be fine.

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                              @Stargazer

                              Dont like the Kriel selection or seeing Wiese still there (though he had a good game last week) otherwise good.

                              Think Marx should have got another start, but hell probably get 45 minutes so it should be fine.

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                              @SidBarret said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                              @Stargazer

                              Dont like the Kriel selection or seeing Wiese still there (though he had a good game last week) otherwise good.

                              Think Marx should have got another start, but hell probably get 45 minutes so it should be fine.

                              Marx is a mistake.

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                                Motivational video for Saturday:

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                                @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                Motivational video for Saturday:

                                Telling...

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                                  @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  Motivational video for Saturday:

                                  Telling...

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                                  @voodoo said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                  Motivational video for Saturday:

                                  Telling...

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                                  Farking NZRU can’t even get that right!

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                                  • P pakman

                                    @voodoo said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    @pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                    Motivational video for Saturday:

                                    Telling...

                                    Screenshot_20220809-193428_Chrome.jpg

                                    Farking NZRU can’t even get that right!

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                                    @pakman I think you'll find Foster ate it.

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                                      @Stargazer

                                      Dont like the Kriel selection or seeing Wiese still there (though he had a good game last week) otherwise good.

                                      Think Marx should have got another start, but hell probably get 45 minutes so it should be fine.

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                                      @SidBarret I mentioned the importance of our bomb squad. That frontrow is stronger then the starting one. Kriel the only worry specially with the 6/2 bench.

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                                      • OomPBO OomPB

                                        @SidBarret I mentioned the importance of our bomb squad. That frontrow is stronger then the starting one. Kriel the only worry specially with the 6/2 bench.

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                                        @OomPB actually Koch was quite poor last week, didnt get the nudge on at the scrum, gave away poor penalty for tripping over at the ruck and missed the tackle that lead to the New Zealand try.

                                        Bongi was poor as well

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                                        • OomPBO OomPB

                                          @SidBarret I mentioned the importance of our bomb squad. That frontrow is stronger then the starting one. Kriel the only worry specially with the 6/2 bench.

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                                          @OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks 2:

                                          @SidBarret I mentioned the importance of our bomb squad. That frontrow is stronger then the starting one. Kriel the only worry specially with the 6/2 bench.

                                          Based on Saturday, with different ref scrums aren’t going to be critical. But Marx’s interventions buggered AB momentum.

                                          I’d rather have him come on at start than risk ABs finally starting alright and Boks chasing game.

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