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  • BonesB Bones

    @booboo said in Foster:

    @KiwiMurph said in Foster:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

    Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods

    Yep, and as almost all the ills have been placed at Foster's doorstep by commentators near and far, people will expect nothing less than rapid improvement.

    Nah.

    You can stop digging....

    Seriously? Because I'd be looking for some serious improvement with game-plan, Defence and player performance with a new Coach by the EOYT, otherwise what's the point?

    Well in the space of 1-2 weeks Jason Ryan has rapidly improved the lineout and maul defence.

    Actually thought our lineout maul D was shit.

    Bokke made mileage without even trying.

    Huh that's an interesting take, I only have a recollection of once, maybe twice where they weren't pretty much held to a very short gain at best.

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    #2126

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @booboo said in Foster:

    @KiwiMurph said in Foster:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

    Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods

    Yep, and as almost all the ills have been placed at Foster's doorstep by commentators near and far, people will expect nothing less than rapid improvement.

    Nah.

    You can stop digging....

    Seriously? Because I'd be looking for some serious improvement with game-plan, Defence and player performance with a new Coach by the EOYT, otherwise what's the point?

    Well in the space of 1-2 weeks Jason Ryan has rapidly improved the lineout and maul defence.

    Actually thought our lineout maul D was shit.

    Bokke made mileage without even trying.

    Huh that's an interesting take, I only have a recollection of once, maybe twice where they weren't pretty much held to a very short gain at best.

    From distance. Didn't score but marched us up field and made shed loads of metres.

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    • boobooB booboo

      @Bones said in Foster:

      @booboo said in Foster:

      @KiwiMurph said in Foster:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

      @Bones said in Foster:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

      @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

      Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods

      Yep, and as almost all the ills have been placed at Foster's doorstep by commentators near and far, people will expect nothing less than rapid improvement.

      Nah.

      You can stop digging....

      Seriously? Because I'd be looking for some serious improvement with game-plan, Defence and player performance with a new Coach by the EOYT, otherwise what's the point?

      Well in the space of 1-2 weeks Jason Ryan has rapidly improved the lineout and maul defence.

      Actually thought our lineout maul D was shit.

      Bokke made mileage without even trying.

      Huh that's an interesting take, I only have a recollection of once, maybe twice where they weren't pretty much held to a very short gain at best.

      From distance. Didn't score but marched us up field and made shed loads of metres.

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      Bones
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      #2127

      @booboo said in Foster:

      @Bones said in Foster:

      @booboo said in Foster:

      @KiwiMurph said in Foster:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

      @Bones said in Foster:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

      @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

      Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods

      Yep, and as almost all the ills have been placed at Foster's doorstep by commentators near and far, people will expect nothing less than rapid improvement.

      Nah.

      You can stop digging....

      Seriously? Because I'd be looking for some serious improvement with game-plan, Defence and player performance with a new Coach by the EOYT, otherwise what's the point?

      Well in the space of 1-2 weeks Jason Ryan has rapidly improved the lineout and maul defence.

      Actually thought our lineout maul D was shit.

      Bokke made mileage without even trying.

      Huh that's an interesting take, I only have a recollection of once, maybe twice where they weren't pretty much held to a very short gain at best.

      From distance. Didn't score but marched us up field and made shed loads of metres.

      Got any examples to look at? That's definitely not what I saw.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

        if they think simply replacing the Head Coach means all will be well and we'll be heading inexorably back to the top of the pile

        No one thinks that. You're arguing against thin air.

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        #2128

        @Bones said in Foster:

        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

        if they think simply replacing the Head Coach means all will be well and we'll be heading inexorably back to the top of the pile

        No one thinks that. You're arguing against thin air.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @booboo said in Foster:

          @Bones said in Foster:

          @booboo said in Foster:

          @KiwiMurph said in Foster:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

          @Bones said in Foster:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

          @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

          Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods

          Yep, and as almost all the ills have been placed at Foster's doorstep by commentators near and far, people will expect nothing less than rapid improvement.

          Nah.

          You can stop digging....

          Seriously? Because I'd be looking for some serious improvement with game-plan, Defence and player performance with a new Coach by the EOYT, otherwise what's the point?

          Well in the space of 1-2 weeks Jason Ryan has rapidly improved the lineout and maul defence.

          Actually thought our lineout maul D was shit.

          Bokke made mileage without even trying.

          Huh that's an interesting take, I only have a recollection of once, maybe twice where they weren't pretty much held to a very short gain at best.

          From distance. Didn't score but marched us up field and made shed loads of metres.

          Got any examples to look at? That's definitely not what I saw.

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          booboo
          wrote on last edited by
          #2129

          @Bones said in Foster:

          @booboo said in Foster:

          @Bones said in Foster:

          @booboo said in Foster:

          @KiwiMurph said in Foster:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

          @Bones said in Foster:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

          @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

          Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods

          Yep, and as almost all the ills have been placed at Foster's doorstep by commentators near and far, people will expect nothing less than rapid improvement.

          Nah.

          You can stop digging....

          Seriously? Because I'd be looking for some serious improvement with game-plan, Defence and player performance with a new Coach by the EOYT, otherwise what's the point?

          Well in the space of 1-2 weeks Jason Ryan has rapidly improved the lineout and maul defence.

          Actually thought our lineout maul D was shit.

          Bokke made mileage without even trying.

          Huh that's an interesting take, I only have a recollection of once, maybe twice where they weren't pretty much held to a very short gain at best.

          From distance. Didn't score but marched us up field and made shed loads of metres.

          Got any examples to look at? That's definitely not what I saw.

          I hate to watch replays of losses. But second half. Bokke right wing. 40 - 50 m out. Bad guys made massive ground.

          If I have time to look I'll post times.

          Worried me as we'd heard how good Ryan's maul D is.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @booboo said in Foster:

            @Bones said in Foster:

            @booboo said in Foster:

            @KiwiMurph said in Foster:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

            @Bones said in Foster:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

            @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

            Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods

            Yep, and as almost all the ills have been placed at Foster's doorstep by commentators near and far, people will expect nothing less than rapid improvement.

            Nah.

            You can stop digging....

            Seriously? Because I'd be looking for some serious improvement with game-plan, Defence and player performance with a new Coach by the EOYT, otherwise what's the point?

            Well in the space of 1-2 weeks Jason Ryan has rapidly improved the lineout and maul defence.

            Actually thought our lineout maul D was shit.

            Bokke made mileage without even trying.

            Huh that's an interesting take, I only have a recollection of once, maybe twice where they weren't pretty much held to a very short gain at best.

            From distance. Didn't score but marched us up field and made shed loads of metres.

            Got any examples to look at? That's definitely not what I saw.

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            SidBarret
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            #2130

            @Bones we other than one big maul in the second half our mauling was consistently just nudging the ball up 5 to 7 meters but nothing too distructive.

            We tended to take the ball out quicker than we would normally do, but against Wales we got a bit greedy with some of our mauls and turned the ball over so we were a lot more conservative on saturday.

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              @Bones we other than one big maul in the second half our mauling was consistently just nudging the ball up 5 to 7 meters but nothing too distructive.

              We tended to take the ball out quicker than we would normally do, but against Wales we got a bit greedy with some of our mauls and turned the ball over so we were a lot more conservative on saturday.

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              Bones
              wrote on last edited by
              #2131

              @SidBarret said in Foster:

              @Bones we other than one big maul in the second half our mauling was consistently just nudging the ball up 5 to 7 meters but nothing too distructive.

              We tended to take the ball out quicker than we would normally do, but against Wales we got a bit greedy with some of our mauls and turned the ball over so we were a lot more conservative on saturday.

              Yeah that was my take on it too. Certainly surprising to see that the Bokke made mileage without even trying and marched us at will.

              Sure if you only saw that one maul then maybe that's the case.

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              • S SidBarret

                @Bones we other than one big maul in the second half our mauling was consistently just nudging the ball up 5 to 7 meters but nothing too distructive.

                We tended to take the ball out quicker than we would normally do, but against Wales we got a bit greedy with some of our mauls and turned the ball over so we were a lot more conservative on saturday.

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                nostrildamus
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                #2132

                @SidBarret said in Foster:

                @Bones we other than one big maul in the second half our mauling was consistently just nudging the ball up 5 to 7 meters but nothing too distructive.

                We tended to take the ball out quicker than we would normally do, but against Wales we got a bit greedy with some of our mauls and turned the ball over so we were a lot more conservative on saturday.

                Did the Welsh handle your maul better? If so the ABs should get out some videos!

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @booboo said in Foster:

                  @Bones said in Foster:

                  @booboo said in Foster:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Foster:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                  @Bones said in Foster:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                  @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

                  Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods

                  Yep, and as almost all the ills have been placed at Foster's doorstep by commentators near and far, people will expect nothing less than rapid improvement.

                  Nah.

                  You can stop digging....

                  Seriously? Because I'd be looking for some serious improvement with game-plan, Defence and player performance with a new Coach by the EOYT, otherwise what's the point?

                  Well in the space of 1-2 weeks Jason Ryan has rapidly improved the lineout and maul defence.

                  Actually thought our lineout maul D was shit.

                  Bokke made mileage without even trying.

                  Huh that's an interesting take, I only have a recollection of once, maybe twice where they weren't pretty much held to a very short gain at best.

                  From distance. Didn't score but marched us up field and made shed loads of metres.

                  Got any examples to look at? That's definitely not what I saw.

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                  stodders
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                  #2133

                  @Bones said in Foster:

                  @booboo said in Foster:

                  @Bones said in Foster:

                  @booboo said in Foster:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Foster:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                  @Bones said in Foster:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                  @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

                  Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods

                  Yep, and as almost all the ills have been placed at Foster's doorstep by commentators near and far, people will expect nothing less than rapid improvement.

                  Nah.

                  You can stop digging....

                  Seriously? Because I'd be looking for some serious improvement with game-plan, Defence and player performance with a new Coach by the EOYT, otherwise what's the point?

                  Well in the space of 1-2 weeks Jason Ryan has rapidly improved the lineout and maul defence.

                  Actually thought our lineout maul D was shit.

                  Bokke made mileage without even trying.

                  Huh that's an interesting take, I only have a recollection of once, maybe twice where they weren't pretty much held to a very short gain at best.

                  From distance. Didn't score but marched us up field and made shed loads of metres.

                  Got any examples to look at? That's definitely not what I saw.

                  Whitelock contested and it compromised the maul defence. Was the only time ABs got the maul defence set up wrong.

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    @SidBarret said in Foster:

                    @Bones we other than one big maul in the second half our mauling was consistently just nudging the ball up 5 to 7 meters but nothing too distructive.

                    We tended to take the ball out quicker than we would normally do, but against Wales we got a bit greedy with some of our mauls and turned the ball over so we were a lot more conservative on saturday.

                    Did the Welsh handle your maul better? If so the ABs should get out some videos!

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                    SidBarret
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #2134

                    @nostrildamus cheat like buggery, they lost five players to yellow cards over the series for repeat offenses.

                    More seriously, they were successful because we were dumb with keeping balls in after momentum got stalled.

                    If I was coaching the All Blacks id just focus on getting all eight forwards in the maul cause we are using space that would create

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      @Bones said in Foster:

                      @booboo said in Foster:

                      @Bones said in Foster:

                      @booboo said in Foster:

                      @KiwiMurph said in Foster:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                      @Bones said in Foster:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

                      Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods

                      Yep, and as almost all the ills have been placed at Foster's doorstep by commentators near and far, people will expect nothing less than rapid improvement.

                      Nah.

                      You can stop digging....

                      Seriously? Because I'd be looking for some serious improvement with game-plan, Defence and player performance with a new Coach by the EOYT, otherwise what's the point?

                      Well in the space of 1-2 weeks Jason Ryan has rapidly improved the lineout and maul defence.

                      Actually thought our lineout maul D was shit.

                      Bokke made mileage without even trying.

                      Huh that's an interesting take, I only have a recollection of once, maybe twice where they weren't pretty much held to a very short gain at best.

                      From distance. Didn't score but marched us up field and made shed loads of metres.

                      Got any examples to look at? That's definitely not what I saw.

                      I hate to watch replays of losses. But second half. Bokke right wing. 40 - 50 m out. Bad guys made massive ground.

                      If I have time to look I'll post times.

                      Worried me as we'd heard how good Ryan's maul D is.

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                      #2135

                      @booboo said in Foster:

                      @Bones said in Foster:

                      @booboo said in Foster:

                      @Bones said in Foster:

                      @booboo said in Foster:

                      @KiwiMurph said in Foster:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                      @Bones said in Foster:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in Foster:

                      Pressure will be up tenfold in my view and whoever comes in, there will be the shortest of honeymoon periods

                      Yep, and as almost all the ills have been placed at Foster's doorstep by commentators near and far, people will expect nothing less than rapid improvement.

                      Nah.

                      You can stop digging....

                      Seriously? Because I'd be looking for some serious improvement with game-plan, Defence and player performance with a new Coach by the EOYT, otherwise what's the point?

                      Well in the space of 1-2 weeks Jason Ryan has rapidly improved the lineout and maul defence.

                      Actually thought our lineout maul D was shit.

                      Bokke made mileage without even trying.

                      Huh that's an interesting take, I only have a recollection of once, maybe twice where they weren't pretty much held to a very short gain at best.

                      From distance. Didn't score but marched us up field and made shed loads of metres.

                      Got any examples to look at? That's definitely not what I saw.

                      I hate to watch replays of losses. But second half. Bokke right wing. 40 - 50 m out. Bad guys made massive ground.

                      If I have time to look I'll post times.

                      Worried me as we'd heard how good Ryan's maul D is.

                      That was the only instance of maul dominance.
                      The Boks had a few 10 metre line outs from our goal line and tried to get their driving maul going but didn’t go anywhere, and had to release the ball to the backs.
                      Big improvement from conceding tries from rolling mauls in the Irish series.

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                      • S SidBarret

                        @nostrildamus cheat like buggery, they lost five players to yellow cards over the series for repeat offenses.

                        More seriously, they were successful because we were dumb with keeping balls in after momentum got stalled.

                        If I was coaching the All Blacks id just focus on getting all eight forwards in the maul cause we are using space that would create

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                        nostrildamus
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                        #2136

                        @SidBarret said in Foster:

                        @nostrildamus cheat like buggery, they lost five players to yellow cards over the series for repeat offenses.

                        More seriously, they were successful because we were dumb with keeping balls in after momentum got stalled.

                        If I was coaching the All Blacks id just focus on getting all eight forwards in the maul cause we are using space that would create

                        @SidBarret said in Foster:

                        @nostrildamus cheat like buggery, they lost five players to yellow cards over the series for repeat offenses.

                        More seriously, they were successful because we were dumb with keeping balls in after momentum got stalled.

                        If I was coaching the All Blacks id just focus on getting all eight forwards in the maul cause we are using space that would create

                        I agree -the way an AB would hang off and then join too late really pissed me off.

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                          akan004
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                          #2137

                          https://twitter.com/SENZ_Radio/status/1557252908021792769?t=0OmCykeAr-saF8gkLuXqeA&s=19

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                            https://twitter.com/SENZ_Radio/status/1557252908021792769?t=0OmCykeAr-saF8gkLuXqeA&s=19

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                            @akan004 said in Foster:

                            https://twitter.com/SENZ_Radio/status/1557252908021792769?t=0OmCykeAr-saF8gkLuXqeA&s=19

                            Same guy who said Cane was out as Cap? All good

                            But fair enough too, he is well in his rights to tell NZR to foxtrot oscar until after this year and/or RWC cycle

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                              @akan004 said in Foster:

                              https://twitter.com/SENZ_Radio/status/1557252908021792769?t=0OmCykeAr-saF8gkLuXqeA&s=19

                              Same guy who said Cane was out as Cap? All good

                              But fair enough too, he is well in his rights to tell NZR to foxtrot oscar until after this year and/or RWC cycle

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                              @Machpants yeah seems to be alot of speculation form people with 'sources' about at the moment.

                              Saw 2 opposing ones this morning, one saying there will be changes but wont involve Razor, then the other said Razor will be coach before the EOYT...both cited sources inside NZR

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                                @akan004 said in Foster:

                                https://twitter.com/SENZ_Radio/status/1557252908021792769?t=0OmCykeAr-saF8gkLuXqeA&s=19

                                Same guy who said Cane was out as Cap? All good

                                But fair enough too, he is well in his rights to tell NZR to foxtrot oscar until after this year and/or RWC cycle

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                                @Machpants said in Foster:

                                But fair enough too, he is well in his rights to tell NZR to foxtrot oscar until after this year and/or RWC cycle

                                The optics of Robertson not getting involved when the ABs are suffering is horrific. If true, this will not play well with people, myself included. Opportunities come up when they come up, it's not always the right time.

                                Hell, it's a 12 month honeymoon I reckon, and a chance to start building for post-23

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @Machpants yeah seems to be alot of speculation form people with 'sources' about at the moment.

                                  Saw 2 opposing ones this morning, one saying there will be changes but wont involve Razor, then the other said Razor will be coach before the EOYT...both cited sources inside NZR

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                  @Machpants yeah seems to be alot of speculation form people with 'sources' about at the moment.

                                  Saw 2 opposing ones this morning, one saying there will be changes but wont involve Razor, then the other said Razor will be coach before the EOYT...both cited sources inside NZR

                                  Sauces

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                    @Machpants yeah seems to be alot of speculation form people with 'sources' about at the moment.

                                    Saw 2 opposing ones this morning, one saying there will be changes but wont involve Razor, then the other said Razor will be coach before the EOYT...both cited sources inside NZR

                                    Sauces

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                                    taniwharugby
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                                    @booboo nah they were apparently official-like, so actual sources, not TSF sauces!

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                                      @Machpants said in Foster:

                                      But fair enough too, he is well in his rights to tell NZR to foxtrot oscar until after this year and/or RWC cycle

                                      The optics of Robertson not getting involved when the ABs are suffering is horrific. If true, this will not play well with people, myself included. Opportunities come up when they come up, it's not always the right time.

                                      Hell, it's a 12 month honeymoon I reckon, and a chance to start building for post-23

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                                      @nzzp said in Foster:

                                      @Machpants said in Foster:

                                      But fair enough too, he is well in his rights to tell NZR to foxtrot oscar until after this year and/or RWC cycle

                                      The optics of Robertson not getting involved when the ABs are suffering is horrific. If true, this will not play well with people, myself included. Opportunities come up when they come up, it's not always the right time.

                                      Hell, it's a 12 month honeymoon I reckon, and a chance to start building for post-23

                                      IF TRUE he could be the worst card player ever

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                                        #2144

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-v-springboks-former-winger-julian-savea-hits-out-at-disturbing-ian-foster-criticism/TN6FCTDAXWIJN6NVL5MI5WHEFQ/

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                                          #2145

                                          Team gets paid massively over nation's economic level due to massive public interest - awesome!

                                          Team management gets mild shit for losing every game - are you trying to make us commit suicide? Not OK!

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