Foster, Robertson etc
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@nzzp and that headline earlier in the week saying Robinson had told Fozzie to resign if he doesnt win in SA...I dont recall any denial this happened.
Robinson should walk and hold the door for Fozzie.
@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@nzzp and that headline earlier in the week saying Robinson had told Fozzie to resign if he doesnt win in SA...I dont recall any denial this happened.
Robinson should walk and hold the door for Fozzie.
And the big elephant in the room is the question: Then what?
You would hope NZR have done some thinking on this, but I'm not holding my breath.
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@Machpants said in Foster:
@Machpants said in Foster:
https://twitter.com/SENZ_Radio/status/1557252908021792769?t=0OmCykeAr-saF8gkLuXqeA&s=19
My fear is that Robinson has already been talking to the RFU and will be coaching England after 2023. But lets wait until we actually know something.
If that's the case then he doesn't want the AB job at all because there's no way he comes back from that. You can't turn down the ABs for England and think you're ever going to get another shot at the AB job.
Yeah you do come back from that. You are thinkig the sort of way that left us with Foster, coaches should be so honoured to be even asked to aplly, they should just drop everythin and crawl to NZR in sack cloth. Bollocks, this is the real world with pro coaches. They rubber stamped foster last time because he didn’t have international experince, the excuse, so how is he going to get that without coaching overseas? NZR needs to wake up, if they want the best coaches they need to realise that they need to work to get them. Otherwise places like Oz and Japan steal them from under their noses, by not being so high and mighty and just offering them the job. Same as players are allowed sabbaticals these days, NZR needs forward looking thinking on coaches. Wouldn’t be so bad if coaches had the same rules as players, when it comes to international eligibility!
No you don't. It isn't going away and getting international experience while waiting for the job. It's turning it down to coach one of our most hated enemies at a time when he's needed.
That's got nothing to do with NZR's failed application process last time.
Totally disagree, there is a fucking mess, why should Razor want to clean it up? And then, because it might not be fixable in the short term, he wastes his once chance at ABs coaching? So unless they offer him until 2025 minimum, I would say fuck off, too.
If that's what he thinks then fine, but then he has to acknowledge he may be closing the door on future AB coaching opportunities. I'm not saying I necessarily agree but I think the NZ rugby community (including the powers that be) wont look very fondly on him turning down the ABs to coach England and this will be scrutinised when/if he does eventually apply.
I’m really not sure where the England line has come from, but the story/rumour is him turning down the role until he can get a full 4 year run. Nothing to do with England, England might happen if he doesn’t get it for 2024, but that’s really irrelevant.
@Machpants said in Foster:
but the story/rumour is him turning down the role until he can get a full 4 year run.
Maybe, but not a four year free pass. You'd want some checkpoints in any contract if it turns out the bloke isn't as good at Test level as people make out.
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A little bit sad that some really good/great ABs may be rested/retired after things haven't gone well. I can think of 5-6 forwards.
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@Chester-Draws said in Foster:
Based on their performance over the last few years, with SANZAR dealings, the AB coach search and Silverlake, what makes us think they have a plan B?
Given their Plan A, I have no interest in following their Plan B.
You assume they have a Plan A?
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@nzzp and that headline earlier in the week saying Robinson had told Fozzie to resign if he doesnt win in SA...I dont recall any denial this happened.
Robinson should walk and hold the door for Fozzie.
And the big elephant in the room is the question: Then what?
You would hope NZR have done some thinking on this, but I'm not holding my breath.
@Victor-Meldrew who knows, but the current CEO/Board along with Fozzie are all part of a larger problem.
I mean NZR should really have put the wheels in motion at half time last week, but you know they will have done Jack shit.
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@Victor-Meldrew who knows, but the current CEO/Board along with Fozzie are all part of a larger problem.
I mean NZR should really have put the wheels in motion at half time last week, but you know they will have done Jack shit.
@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@Victor-Meldrew who knows, but the current CEO/Board along with Fozzie are all part of a larger problem.
I mean NZR should really have put the wheels in motion at half time last week, but you know they will have done Jack shit.
Maybe they will surprise. I guess we'll find out next week. How exciting!
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@Victor-Meldrew who knows, but the current CEO/Board along with Fozzie are all part of a larger problem.
I mean NZR should really have put the wheels in motion at half time last week, but you know they will have done Jack shit.
Maybe they will surprise. I guess we'll find out next week. How exciting!
@stodders mate I'm an optimist and don't see it, but id like to visit your world with all your rainbows and unicorns
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@stodders mate I'm an optimist and don't see it, but id like to visit your world with all your rainbows and unicorns
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@stodders mate I'm an optimist and don't see it, but id like to visit your world with all your rainbows and unicorns
Free beer too and all the women from the hawt thread
@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@stodders mate I'm an optimist and don't see it, but id like to visit your world with all your rainbows and unicorns
Free beer too and all the women from the hawt thread
That all sounds good until you realise that @MN5 and @mariner4life have already been there for week and there's nothing left that you'd take a second look at.
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@stodders mate I'm an optimist and don't see it, but id like to visit your world with all your rainbows and unicorns
Free beer too and all the women from the hawt thread
That all sounds good until you realise that @MN5 and @mariner4life have already been there for week and there's nothing left that you'd take a second look at.
@Catogrande said in Foster:
@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@stodders mate I'm an optimist and don't see it, but id like to visit your world with all your rainbows and unicorns
Free beer too and all the women from the hawt thread
That all sounds good until you realise that @MN5 and @mariner4life have already been there for week and there's nothing left that you'd take a second look at.
Don’t lump me in with him
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@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@stodders mate I'm an optimist and don't see it, but id like to visit your world with all your rainbows and unicorns
Free beer too and all the women from the hawt thread
That all sounds good until you realise that @MN5 and @mariner4life have already been there for week and there's nothing left that you'd take a second look at.
@Catogrande said in Foster:
@taniwharugby said in Foster:
@stodders mate I'm an optimist and don't see it, but id like to visit your world with all your rainbows and unicorns
Free beer too and all the women from the hawt thread
That all sounds good until you realise that @MN5 and @mariner4life have already been there for week and there's nothing left that you'd take a second look at.
Don't worry. They are in the hot boxes. The were told not to touch
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It has been so scattergun post 2019.
Robertson overlooked for the gig.
Laumape got ran out of town.
Sowakula. Capped and scrapped. Jacobsen similar.
Ennor doing the Hokey Cokey in and out of squads to ride the pine.
Clarke goes off to 7's for a year and doesn't get a gig.
Papalii utilised on EOYT and played decent enough in Dublin. Not a look in this time.
RTS comes on against Ireland at 13. Played all year at 12.
Fainganuuku been sent to coventry already.
Still really know nothing about Vaii due to lack of meaningful minutes.
Karl T gets called in against the Irish with one foot out the exit door. Hailed as our "best scrummager" but doesn't get picked.
Samisoni dropped for 3rd test after playing well .
Will Jordan benched for the second test.
The whole thing is a dogs breakfast.
Nobody knows where they stand bar Cane, the Barretts, Ardie, Aaron and Whitelock.
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Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?
Would a 1 point win save him?
Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?
Would a 1 point win save him?
He got a bit tetchy towards the end of his press conference explaining the selections. He's normally pretty laid back, so it was more noticeable.
Hopefully, if it is his last test as head coach, he can go out on a high. If ABs play well, he can at least say I told you so. Big if...
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@Bones Wayne Smith also didnt return to the AB set up as Head Coach...
I am surprised Fozzie hasnt suggested what Henry, Hansen and SMith did...shuffle the coaching roles
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@taniwharugby Hell no!! So he can get another bite of the cherry?
@broughie not unless we we are talking about the hawt thread.
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Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?
Would a 1 point win save him?
Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?
Would a 1 point win save him?
Don't forget the rather big element that they need to fly back and get ready for another test in two weeks. Add in other possible upheavals in personnel and this would have to be really well planned through.
Possibility of a phasing out through the Argies games and a new crack for the Bled? -
Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?
Would a 1 point win save him?
Don't forget the rather big element that they need to fly back and get ready for another test in two weeks. Add in other possible upheavals in personnel and this would have to be really well planned through.
Possibility of a phasing out through the Argies games and a new crack for the Bled?Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?
Would a 1 point win save him?
Don't forget the rather big element that they need to fly back and get ready for another test in two weeks. Add in other possible upheavals in personnel and this would have to be really well planned through.
Possibility of a phasing out through the Argies games and a new crack for the Bled?Joe Schmidt is already in NZ. There is continuity. And flying to Oz isn't too much of a stretch. Which paves the way for a new coach for EOYT.
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Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?
Would a 1 point win save him?
Don't forget the rather big element that they need to fly back and get ready for another test in two weeks. Add in other possible upheavals in personnel and this would have to be really well planned through.
Possibility of a phasing out through the Argies games and a new crack for the Bled?Joe Schmidt is already in NZ. There is continuity. And flying to Oz isn't too much of a stretch. Which paves the way for a new coach for EOYT.
Anyone think he is sacked regardless of result this weekend or is he safe?
Would a 1 point win save him?
Don't forget the rather big element that they need to fly back and get ready for another test in two weeks. Add in other possible upheavals in personnel and this would have to be really well planned through.
Possibility of a phasing out through the Argies games and a new crack for the Bled?Joe Schmidt is already in NZ. There is continuity. And flying to Oz isn't too much of a stretch. Which paves the way for a new coach for EOYT.
Pretty much as I see it - Schmidt caretakes before Razor can take over EOYT and gets to pick his own players.
