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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Chris I do wonder if all this talk from the players about how great a coach (guy) Fozzie is, did inspire them knowing another defeat was the end of him...

    I mean he can be a top bloke, but a poor coach and still inspire his players, just a shame it got to this point for the players to become inspired or clearer, or was just timing of the aligned stars with the exit of Moar/Plumtree and the bigger influence of Ryan/Schmidt?

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    @taniwharugby said in Foster:

    @Chris I do wonder if all this talk from the players about how great a coach (guy) Fozzie is, did inspire them knowing another defeat was the end of him...

    I mean he can be a top bloke, but a poor coach and still inspire his players, just a shame it got to this point for the players to become inspired or clearer, or was just timing of the aligned stars with the exit of Moar/Plumtree and the bigger influence of Ryan/Schmidt?

    The players who have spoken on TV I have heard have not said they think he a great coach not a nice bloke. Well that is Havili and Savea that I just heard, and Mounga last week. So perhaps we can put to bed the they think he's a nice bloke thing?

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      @Crucial said in Foster:

      Some reading from the soothsayers of the Fern

      https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/3608/poll-the-final-choice-ab-coach?page=1

      [Poll] The final choice (AB Coach)  The Silver Fern.png

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      @Machpants

      I knew a few people that backed Foster solely because Hansen said he was good to go.

      At the time I argued that leopards don't change their spots, but Hansen's endorsement meant that they believed Fostyer had learned enough as AB assistant.

      Hansen has to bear a huge amount of the blame here. He had massive sway, and he used it unwisely.

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      • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

        @Machpants

        I knew a few people that backed Foster solely because Hansen said he was good to go.

        At the time I argued that leopards don't change their spots, but Hansen's endorsement meant that they believed Fostyer had learned enough as AB assistant.

        Hansen has to bear a huge amount of the blame here. He had massive sway, and he used it unwisely.

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        @Chester-Draws said in Foster:

        @Machpants

        I knew a few people that backed Foster solely because Hansen said he was good to go.

        At the time I argued that leopards don't change their spots, but Hansen's endorsement meant that they believed Fostyer had learned enough as AB assistant.

        Hansen has to bear a huge amount of the blame here. He had massive sway, and he used it unwisely.

        I'm surprised, everyone I've talked to around the time had realised Hansen had lost his edge, and obviously should have gone as originally planned after the lions series. His judgement was suspect by then, the 'after more than 7 years in the job you're past your peak and is time to move on' effect was very obvious

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        • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

          @Dan54 said in Foster:

          I think with the backing Foster has got from the players publicly over the last few weeks (I know what do they know, they not posting in here lol), even if there is genuine thoughts of replacing him isn't there a chance of alienating the players?

          this is the issue - fozzie seems immensely popular with the players and it's a big part of why he got picked and why he's still around.
          They need to scrap that thinking and take a ruthless results focused approach.
          I'm hoping all that result did was allow fozzie back into the country without a lynch mob being there waiting for him at the airport.

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          @WillieTheWaiter

          Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

          Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

          The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

          As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

          Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

          One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
          Lots at stake this week it seems

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            @WillieTheWaiter

            Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

            Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

            The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

            As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

            Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

            One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
            Lots at stake this week it seems

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            @DaGrubster said in Foster:

            @WillieTheWaiter

            Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

            Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

            The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

            As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

            Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

            One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
            Lots at stake this week it seems

            been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

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              @DaGrubster said in Foster:

              @WillieTheWaiter

              Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

              Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

              The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

              As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

              Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

              One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
              Lots at stake this week it seems

              been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

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              #2599

              @ploughboy said in Foster:

              @DaGrubster said in Foster:

              @WillieTheWaiter

              Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

              Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

              The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

              As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

              Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

              One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
              Lots at stake this week it seems

              been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

              More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @ploughboy said in Foster:

                @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                @WillieTheWaiter

                Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                Lots at stake this week it seems

                been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

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                @Chris said in Foster:

                @ploughboy said in Foster:

                @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                @WillieTheWaiter

                Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                Lots at stake this week it seems

                been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

                we will find out what is click bait and not in next week

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                • P ploughboy

                  @Chris said in Foster:

                  @ploughboy said in Foster:

                  @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                  @WillieTheWaiter

                  Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                  Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                  The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                  As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                  Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                  One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                  Lots at stake this week it seems

                  been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                  More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

                  we will find out what is click bait and not in next week

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                  #2601

                  @ploughboy said in Foster:

                  @Chris said in Foster:

                  @ploughboy said in Foster:

                  @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                  @WillieTheWaiter

                  Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                  Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                  The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                  As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                  Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                  One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                  Lots at stake this week it seems

                  been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                  More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

                  we will find out what is click bait and not in next week

                  We have already found out some of it.

                  Cane being dropped as Captain etc.

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @ploughboy said in Foster:

                    @Chris said in Foster:

                    @ploughboy said in Foster:

                    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                    @WillieTheWaiter

                    Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                    Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                    The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                    As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                    Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                    One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                    Lots at stake this week it seems

                    been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                    More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

                    we will find out what is click bait and not in next week

                    We have already found out some of it.

                    Cane being dropped as Captain etc.

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                    #2602

                    @Chris said in Foster:

                    @ploughboy said in Foster:

                    @Chris said in Foster:

                    @ploughboy said in Foster:

                    @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                    @WillieTheWaiter

                    Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                    Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                    The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                    As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                    Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                    One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                    Lots at stake this week it seems

                    been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                    More click bait ? so many articles on all sort of shit that proved to be wrong.

                    we will find out what is click bait and not in next week

                    We have already found out some of it.

                    Cane being dropped as Captain etc.

                    then again that might be found out next week to

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                      @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                      @WillieTheWaiter

                      Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                      Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                      The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                      As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                      Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                      One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                      Lots at stake this week it seems

                      been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

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                      #2603

                      @ploughboy said in Foster:

                      @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                      @WillieTheWaiter

                      Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                      Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                      The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                      As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                      Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                      One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                      Lots at stake this week it seems

                      been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                      Sauce??

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                      • broughieB broughie

                        But I have little doubt if the can is kicked down the road, based on hope his new assistants can DRAG HIM UPWARDS - rather than his proven body of work - we will probably just be back here in about December, and then if kicked further, again back here in abut about July.

                        Just rip that plaster off.

                        Excellent word choices in bold.

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                        @broughie said in Foster:

                        But I have little doubt if the can is kicked down the road, based on hope his new assistants can DRAG HIM UPWARDS - rather than his proven body of work - we will probably just be back here in about December, and then if kicked further, again back here in abut about July.

                        Just rip that plaster off.

                        Excellent word choices in bold.

                        This is like one of those posts someone puts up with a picture containing a play button in the middle.

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                        • FrankF Frank

                          @ploughboy said in Foster:

                          @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                          @WillieTheWaiter

                          Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                          Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                          The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                          As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                          Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                          One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                          Lots at stake this week it seems

                          been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                          Sauce??

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                          #2605

                          @Frank said in Foster:

                          @ploughboy said in Foster:

                          @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                          @WillieTheWaiter

                          Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                          Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                          The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                          As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                          Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                          One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                          Lots at stake this week it seems

                          been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

                          Sauce??

                          robert van royen article on some rugby site

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @broughie said in Foster:

                            But I have little doubt if the can is kicked down the road, based on hope his new assistants can DRAG HIM UPWARDS - rather than his proven body of work - we will probably just be back here in about December, and then if kicked further, again back here in abut about July.

                            Just rip that plaster off.

                            Excellent word choices in bold.

                            This is like one of those posts someone puts up with a picture containing a play button in the middle.

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                            @Bones said in Foster:

                            @broughie said in Foster:

                            But I have little doubt if the can is kicked down the road, based on hope his new assistants can DRAG HIM UPWARDS - rather than his proven body of work - we will probably just be back here in about December, and then if kicked further, again back here in abut about July.

                            Just rip that plaster off.

                            Excellent word choices in bold.

                            This is like one of those posts someone puts up with a picture containing a play button in the middle.

                            We’ve all fallen for that one

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                              @DaGrubster said in Foster:

                              @WillieTheWaiter

                              Yup, the ABs team of the last 3-4 years had a habit of producing ‘statement’ wins but only after they have been horribly embarrassed or beaten the week before or the last times they played a team.

                              Australia x 2, Ireland, Argentina and now SA. Maybe this latest one was to save dear old Fozzie after last weeks test loss sealed his fate.

                              The players should have input but what gets said publicly is not important. What gets said privately behind closed doors is far more important. Mo’unga backing Foz publically is fine. But does anyone seriously think that he would back Foz over Razor?

                              As I said before - consistency of excellence is an AB hallmark that has been established over decades of being at the top of world rugby. Fosters reign is dismantling that hallmark and ensuring that his hallmark of inconsistency replaces it.

                              Fosters chiefs were a mixture of great, middling and poor. Worldbeaters one week, dogshit the next and then the next snd suddenly out of nowhere they look a million bucks again. Sound familiar!?

                              One final thought- If they have lined up Scott Robertson for the job (which seems likely given Robinsons refusal to back Foz before the SA tour and the last win) and they do a u turn because of the last win, then it could prove to be the last straw for Razor and could see him heading offshore.
                              Lots at stake this week it seems

                              been reports that robertson already could have ruled himself out

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                              @ploughboy they been around for at least the last week, similarly so have ones that say he is set to be AB coach

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                                @ploughboy they been around for at least the last week, similarly so have ones that say he is set to be AB coach

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                                @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                @ploughboy they been around for at least the last week, similarly so have ones that say he is set to be AB coach

                                i think that is chris and mines points lots of click bait out there some of it will be right some will be fools gold

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                  @ploughboy they been around for at least the last week, similarly so have ones that say he is set to be AB coach

                                  i think that is chris and mines points lots of click bait out there some of it will be right some will be fools gold

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                                  @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                  I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

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                                    @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                    I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

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                                    @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                    @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                    I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

                                    Wouldn't that be ironic.

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                                      @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                      I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

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                                      @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                      @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                      I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

                                      It's lining up nicely for TSF Coaching Inc to take over.

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                                        @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                        @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                        I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

                                        Wouldn't that be ironic.

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                                        @Chris said in Foster:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                        @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                        I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

                                        Wouldn't that be ironic.

                                        Don't you think, maybe a little too ironic

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                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                          @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                          I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

                                          Wouldn't that be ironic.

                                          Don't you think, maybe a little too ironic

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                                          @Machpants said in Foster:

                                          @Chris said in Foster:

                                          @taniwharugby said in Foster:

                                          @ploughboy if there is any chance they give him the elbow (I doubt Fozzie will pull the pin) you would hope nzr have a contingency in place, be it Razor or someone else....but this is nzr.

                                          I mean if Razor did publicly rule himself out, Fozzie could give the ultimate middle finger and pull the pin himself...

                                          Wouldn't that be ironic.

                                          Don't you think, maybe a little too ironic

                                          It would be

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