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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    mariner4life
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    #112

    Winning the NPC with Canterbury is par these days, not an achievement.

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    • Cantab79C Offline
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      #113

      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="589052" data-time="1466163056">
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      <p>Winning the NPC with Canterbury is par these days, not an achievement.</p>
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      <p> </p>
      <p>With respect, that kind of attitude completely devalues what the CRFU have achieved over the past decade. In an era of salary caps, ABs not playing provincial Rugby and high player mobility I think each and every provincial title is a fantastic achievement and should be valued.</p>

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      • KiwiMurphK Online
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        #114

        Canterbury came bloody close last year to losing last year's final at home to a team with a number 9 who can't start for the Sunwolves (Shigeno) and a number 10 who should have been dropped om ITM Cup form, unwanted by any Super Rugby teams, especially his own hometown team (Hickey). It is not something I would be particularly crowing about.

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        • Cantab79C Offline
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          #115

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiMurph" data-cid="589109" data-time="1466215212">
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          <p>Canterbury came bloody close last year to losing last year's final at home to a team with a number 9 who can't start for the Sunwolves (Shigeno) and a number 10 who should have been dropped om ITM Cup form, unwanted by any Super Rugby teams, especially his own hometown team (Hickey). It is not something I would be particularly crowing about.</p>
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          <p> </p>
          <p>I thought it was a great game. Full credit to Auckland for coming back and being so competitive after Canterbury started well, and I'll be crowing about that final until I'm dead and buried, thank you very much.</p>

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          • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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            Rancid Schnitzel
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            #116

            It could have been worse...

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            • Crazy HorseC Offline
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              #117

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="589130" data-time="1466218191"><p>
              It could have been worse...</p></blockquote>
              <br>
              Nah, Dave Rennie is going overseas isn't he?

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              • G Offline
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                #118

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="589052" data-time="1466163056">
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                <p>Winning the NPC with Canterbury is par these days, not an achievement.</p>
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                </blockquote>
                <p> </p>
                <p>It's true - all the other provinces are absolutely awful, and Canterbury makes all of them our bitch, every year without fail. This year will be no different so may as well not even bother - just award the trophy to us and skip the competition entirely. They might even use lube this year...</p>

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                • nzzpN Offline
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                  #119

                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Godder" data-cid="589618" data-time="1466292969">
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                  <p>It's true - all the other provinces are absolutely awful, and Canterbury makes all of them our bitch, every year without fail. This year will be no different so may as well not even bother - just award the trophy to us and skip the competition entirely. They might even use lube this year...</p>
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                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Just ask Auckland how quickly the worm can turn.  From a seemingly endless line of world class talent, to Liaki Moli and Jimmy Gopperth in a few season.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Bah farking humbug.</p>

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                  • KiwiMurphK Online
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #120

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Cantab79" data-cid="589112" data-time="1466215717">
                    <div>
                    <p>I thought it was a great game. Full credit to Auckland for coming back and being so competitive after Canterbury started well, and I'll be crowing about that final until I'm dead and buried, thank you very much.</p>
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                    <p> </p>
                    <p>The point is I don't think it's a great example of displaying Scott Robertson's coaching credentials.  </p>

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                    • Cantab79C Offline
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                      #121

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiMurph" data-cid="589684" data-time="1466307752">
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                      <p>The point is I don't think it's a great example of displaying Scott Robertson's coaching credentials.  </p>
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                      <p> </p>
                      <p>I couldn't think of a better way for an ITM Cup coach to display their credentials than to win the comp. It seems like some people believe this achievement was diminished because Canterbury didn't annihilate Auckland in the final. In my experience finals are rarely are lopsided and aren't generally overly entertaining games. I would urge you to look at Robertson's body of work coaching at provincial level over three years as opposed to just one tight, tense final which his team still won in the end anyway.</p>

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                      • BovidaeB Offline
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                        #122

                        <p>It sounds like both Hewett and Matson won't be involved next year so Robertson will need to appoint 2 new assistant coaches.</p>

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                        • WurzelW Offline
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                          #123

                          <p>Shame to lose Hewett. He's got a lot to offer both the Crusader and NZ Rugby.</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>Wouldn't surprise me if Matson and Hewett end up at the Force.</p>

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                            <p>I'd heard good things about Hewett, so is he leaving because he was overlooked, doesn't want to be SR's assistant, SR doesn't want him as his assistant or time for a clean out?</p>

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                            • Chris B.C Offline
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                              <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/81244433/hewett-looking-to-options-elsewhere-after-missing-crusaders-job'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/81244433/hewett-looking-to-options-elsewhere-after-missing-crusaders-job</a></p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>Presumably they will need a Canterbury coach to replace Robertson. </p>

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                              • StargazerS Offline
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                                #126

                                <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">So who will be Robertson's assistants? This is the first I'm reading about it, but I've not really been paying attention.</span></span></p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/83545353/Canterbury-assistant-coach-Jason-Ryan-puts-name-forward-for-Crusaders-role'>Canterbury assistant coach Jason Ryan puts name forward for Crusaders role</a></span></span></p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">I wonder whether Magpies head coach Philpott is interested now that he has missed out on the main job. I'm still keen for him to pack his bags in the Bay, otherwise we're stuck with him until at least 2017.</span></span></p>

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                                • SammyCS Offline
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                                  #127

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="609096" data-time="1472171548"><p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial;">So who will be Robertson's assistants? This is the first I'm reading about it, but I've not really been paying attention.</span></span><br><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial;"><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/83545353/Canterbury-assistant-coach-Jason-Ryan-puts-name-forward-for-Crusaders-role">Canterbury assistant coach Jason Ryan puts name forward for Crusaders role</a></span></span><br><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial;">I wonder whether Magpies head coach Philpott is interested now that he has missed out on the main job. I'm still keen for him to pack his bags in the Bay, otherwise we're stuck with him until at least 2017.</span></span></p></blockquote>
                                  <br>
                                  Fuck me that's a great photo of Robertson and Ryan. The look like a couple of cartoon characters. <br><br>
                                  I don't think you could find 2 stupider looking guys than that.

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                                  • NepiaN Offline
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                                    Nepia
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                                    #128

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="609354" data-time="1472250833">
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                                    <p>Fuck me that's a great photo of Robertson and Ryan. The look like a couple of cartoon characters.<br><br>
                                    I don't think you could find 2 stupider looking guys than that.</p>
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                                    <p>So you're not a fan of those two? Who did you want instead? </p>

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                                    • SammyCS Offline
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                                      #129

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="609358" data-time="1472251146"><p>
                                      So you're not a fan of those two? Who did you want instead?</p></blockquote>
                                      <br>
                                      It's all in the earlier pages of this thread. I've been pretty vocal in my dislike of Robertson. Jobs for the boys in my opinion<br><br>
                                      Was really hoping for Schmidt. If he Chiefs get him, as has been reported, it proves Riachs incompetency in my opinion<br><br>
                                      Ryan, I think, is very under qualified. He's the under 20's scrum coach, and anyone who watched that tournament will agree our scrum was nothing short of abysmal.<br><br>
                                      Given the head coach is now decided....I'd like Leon MacDonald as an assistant. Colin Cooper maybe as forwards coach? <br><br><br>
                                      But I'm picking they'll go with Ryan and Philpott

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                                      • NepiaN Offline
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                                        Nepia
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                                        #130

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="609367" data-time="1472252130">
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                                        <p><strong>It's all in the earlier pages of this thread.</strong> I've been pretty vocal in my dislike of Robertson. Jobs for the boys in my opinion<br><br><strong>Was really hoping for Schmidt. If he Chiefs get him, as has been reported,</strong> it proves Riachs incompetency in my opinion<br><br>
                                        Ryan, I think, is very under qualified. He's the under 20's scrum coach, and anyone who watched that tournament will agree our scrum was nothing short of abysmal.<br><br>
                                        Given the head coach is now decided....I'd like Leon MacDonald as an assistant. Colin Cooper maybe as forwards coach?<br><br><br>
                                        But I'm picking they'll go with Ryan and <strong>Philpott</strong></p>
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                                        <p>I couldn't be bothered reading back through the thread. ;)</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>I hope the Chiefs pick Keane and not Schmidt (can't stand that guy). Cooper could be a good addition to the Chiefs as well considering the Naki is part of the region.</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Please take Philpott off our hands! We'll throw Chris Eaton in to mentor your 9s as a bonus.</p>

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                                        • SammyCS Offline
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                                          #131

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="609370" data-time="1472252531"><p>
                                          I couldn't be bothered reading back through the thread. ;)<br><br>
                                          I hope the Chiefs pick Keane and not Schmidt (can't stand that guy). Cooper could be a good addition to the Chiefs as well considering the Naki is part of the region.<br><br>
                                          Please take Philpott off our hands! We'll throw Chris Eaton in to mentor your 9s as a bonus.</p></blockquote>
                                          <br>
                                          Yep, we should have nabbed Keane one of the many times he told riach he wanted to be involved. From what I hear his parting shots at Riach were more than justified :)<br><br>
                                          Philpott was a favourite player of mine when I was a young fella, was a one of the hard men in the Sydenham pack when I was playing u10/11s etc at the same club. But sentiment aside, I hope we are looking at better candidates.

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