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  • Cantab79C Offline
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    #121

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiMurph" data-cid="589684" data-time="1466307752">
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    <p>The point is I don't think it's a great example of displaying Scott Robertson's coaching credentials.  </p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>I couldn't think of a better way for an ITM Cup coach to display their credentials than to win the comp. It seems like some people believe this achievement was diminished because Canterbury didn't annihilate Auckland in the final. In my experience finals are rarely are lopsided and aren't generally overly entertaining games. I would urge you to look at Robertson's body of work coaching at provincial level over three years as opposed to just one tight, tense final which his team still won in the end anyway.</p>

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    • BovidaeB Offline
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      #122

      <p>It sounds like both Hewett and Matson won't be involved next year so Robertson will need to appoint 2 new assistant coaches.</p>

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      • WurzelW Offline
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        #123

        <p>Shame to lose Hewett. He's got a lot to offer both the Crusader and NZ Rugby.</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p>Wouldn't surprise me if Matson and Hewett end up at the Force.</p>

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        • taniwharugbyT Offline
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          #124

          <p>I'd heard good things about Hewett, so is he leaving because he was overlooked, doesn't want to be SR's assistant, SR doesn't want him as his assistant or time for a clean out?</p>

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          • Chris B.C Offline
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            #125

            <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/81244433/hewett-looking-to-options-elsewhere-after-missing-crusaders-job'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/81244433/hewett-looking-to-options-elsewhere-after-missing-crusaders-job</a></p>
            <p> </p>
            <p>Presumably they will need a Canterbury coach to replace Robertson. </p>

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            • StargazerS Offline
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              #126

              <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">So who will be Robertson's assistants? This is the first I'm reading about it, but I've not really been paying attention.</span></span></p>
              <p> </p>
              <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/83545353/Canterbury-assistant-coach-Jason-Ryan-puts-name-forward-for-Crusaders-role'>Canterbury assistant coach Jason Ryan puts name forward for Crusaders role</a></span></span></p>
              <p> </p>
              <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">I wonder whether Magpies head coach Philpott is interested now that he has missed out on the main job. I'm still keen for him to pack his bags in the Bay, otherwise we're stuck with him until at least 2017.</span></span></p>

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              • SammyCS Offline
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                #127

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="609096" data-time="1472171548"><p><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial;">So who will be Robertson's assistants? This is the first I'm reading about it, but I've not really been paying attention.</span></span><br><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial;"><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/83545353/Canterbury-assistant-coach-Jason-Ryan-puts-name-forward-for-Crusaders-role">Canterbury assistant coach Jason Ryan puts name forward for Crusaders role</a></span></span><br><br><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial;">I wonder whether Magpies head coach Philpott is interested now that he has missed out on the main job. I'm still keen for him to pack his bags in the Bay, otherwise we're stuck with him until at least 2017.</span></span></p></blockquote>
                <br>
                Fuck me that's a great photo of Robertson and Ryan. The look like a couple of cartoon characters. <br><br>
                I don't think you could find 2 stupider looking guys than that.

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                • NepiaN Offline
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                  #128

                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="609354" data-time="1472250833">
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                  <p>Fuck me that's a great photo of Robertson and Ryan. The look like a couple of cartoon characters.<br><br>
                  I don't think you could find 2 stupider looking guys than that.</p>
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                  </blockquote>
                  <p>So you're not a fan of those two? Who did you want instead? </p>

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                  • SammyCS Offline
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                    #129

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="609358" data-time="1472251146"><p>
                    So you're not a fan of those two? Who did you want instead?</p></blockquote>
                    <br>
                    It's all in the earlier pages of this thread. I've been pretty vocal in my dislike of Robertson. Jobs for the boys in my opinion<br><br>
                    Was really hoping for Schmidt. If he Chiefs get him, as has been reported, it proves Riachs incompetency in my opinion<br><br>
                    Ryan, I think, is very under qualified. He's the under 20's scrum coach, and anyone who watched that tournament will agree our scrum was nothing short of abysmal.<br><br>
                    Given the head coach is now decided....I'd like Leon MacDonald as an assistant. Colin Cooper maybe as forwards coach? <br><br><br>
                    But I'm picking they'll go with Ryan and Philpott

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                    • NepiaN Offline
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                      #130

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="609367" data-time="1472252130">
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                      <p><strong>It's all in the earlier pages of this thread.</strong> I've been pretty vocal in my dislike of Robertson. Jobs for the boys in my opinion<br><br><strong>Was really hoping for Schmidt. If he Chiefs get him, as has been reported,</strong> it proves Riachs incompetency in my opinion<br><br>
                      Ryan, I think, is very under qualified. He's the under 20's scrum coach, and anyone who watched that tournament will agree our scrum was nothing short of abysmal.<br><br>
                      Given the head coach is now decided....I'd like Leon MacDonald as an assistant. Colin Cooper maybe as forwards coach?<br><br><br>
                      But I'm picking they'll go with Ryan and <strong>Philpott</strong></p>
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                      <p>I couldn't be bothered reading back through the thread. ;)</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>I hope the Chiefs pick Keane and not Schmidt (can't stand that guy). Cooper could be a good addition to the Chiefs as well considering the Naki is part of the region.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Please take Philpott off our hands! We'll throw Chris Eaton in to mentor your 9s as a bonus.</p>

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                      • SammyCS Offline
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                        SammyC
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                        #131

                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="609370" data-time="1472252531"><p>
                        I couldn't be bothered reading back through the thread. ;)<br><br>
                        I hope the Chiefs pick Keane and not Schmidt (can't stand that guy). Cooper could be a good addition to the Chiefs as well considering the Naki is part of the region.<br><br>
                        Please take Philpott off our hands! We'll throw Chris Eaton in to mentor your 9s as a bonus.</p></blockquote>
                        <br>
                        Yep, we should have nabbed Keane one of the many times he told riach he wanted to be involved. From what I hear his parting shots at Riach were more than justified :)<br><br>
                        Philpott was a favourite player of mine when I was a young fella, was a one of the hard men in the Sydenham pack when I was playing u10/11s etc at the same club. But sentiment aside, I hope we are looking at better candidates.

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                        • Chris B.C Offline
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                          #132

                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="609367" data-time="1472252130">
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                          <p>
                          Given the head coach is now decided....I'd like Leon MacDonald as an assistant. Colin Cooper maybe as forwards coach?<br>
                           </p>
                          </div>
                          </blockquote>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>I'd think the odds of getting Leon are pretty slim. He turned down the Asst. Coach job previously, presumably because he was tapped for the Mako$ Head Coach role. If I were him I'd do 2-3 seasons there and then look to grab a Super Head Coach role.</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>The ideal would be to have Robbie come in as a sort of mentoring assistant role, similar to Wayne Smith and Plumtree - can't see that happening, but maybe Cotter?</p>

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                          • SammyCS Offline
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                            #133

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="609375" data-time="1472252948"><p>
                            I'd think the odds of getting Leon are pretty slim. He turned down the Asst. Coach job previously, presumably because he was tapped for the Mako$ Head Coach role. If I were him I'd do 2-3 seasons there and then look to grab a Super Head Coach role.<br><br>
                            The ideal would be to have Robbie come in as a sort of mentoring assistant role, similar to Wayne Smith and Plumtree - can't see that happening, but maybe Cotter?</p></blockquote>
                            <br>
                            Yeah I'm hoping he turned the job down because he could see the sinking ship Blackadder was in charge of. But you're right, probably wishful thinking on my behalf<br><br>
                            I wish robbie would come home. However unlikely it now seems.

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                            • SammyCS Offline
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                              #134

                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="609375" data-time="1472252948">
                              <div>
                              <p>I'd think the odds of getting Leon are pretty slim. He turned down the Asst. Coach job previously, presumably because he was tapped for the Mako$ Head Coach role. If I were him I'd do 2-3 seasons there and then look to grab a Super Head Coach role.</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>The ideal would be to have Robbie come in as a sort of mentoring assistant role, similar to Wayne Smith and Plumtree - can't see that happening, but maybe Cotter?</p>
                              </div>
                              </blockquote>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="609378" data-time="1472253262">
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                              <p>Yeah I'm hoping he turned the job down because he could see the sinking ship Blackadder was in charge of. But you're right, probably wishful thinking on my behalf<br><br>
                              I wish robbie would come home. However unlikely it now seems.</p>
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                              </blockquote>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>And Leon gets the job :)</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1012-leon-macdonald-to-join-bnz-crusaders-coaching-team'>http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1012-leon-macdonald-to-join-bnz-crusaders-coaching-team</a></p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>very happy about this, he's a really astute guy.</p>

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                              • WurzelW Offline
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                                #135

                                <p>Yup, and they've kept Brad Mooar on who had a really positive influence this season. Coupled with Razor's penchant for flinging the ball around regardless then I think the side-to-side backline of yore will be a distant memory.</p>

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                                • Chris B.C Offline
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                                  #136

                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="610731" data-time="1472524379">
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                                  <p>And Leon gets the job :)</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1012-leon-macdonald-to-join-bnz-crusaders-coaching-team'>http://crusaders.co.nz/news/1012-leon-macdonald-to-join-bnz-crusaders-coaching-team</a></p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>very happy about this, he's a really astute guy.</p>
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                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Nice!</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Now, why don't they give Dave Hewett the Canterbury Head Coach job and keep him as an assistant at the Crusaders!  :)</p>

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                                  • SammyCS Offline
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                                    #137

                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="610747" data-time="1472527788">
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                                    <p>Nice!</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Now, why don't they give Dave Hewett the Canterbury Head Coach job and keep him as an assistant at the Crusaders!   :)</p>
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                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>I'd like that :)</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>I'm hearing that Robertson really wants Jason Ryan, but the board is concerned with his lack of experience. </p>

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                                    • rotatedR Offline
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                                      #138

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="SammyC" data-cid="610749" data-time="1472528047"><p>
                                      I'd like that :)<br><br>
                                      I'm hearing that Robertson really wants Jason Ryan, but the board is concerned with his lack of experience.</p></blockquote>
                                      <br>
                                      His lack of early 00's experience playing for the Crusaders? Very tough to get that experience now.

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                                      • TimT Away
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                                        #139

                                        <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/83766432/hawkes-bay-coach-craig-philpott-not-interested-in-crusaders-assistants-role'><strong>Hawke's Bay coach Craig Philpott not interested in Crusaders' assistant's role</strong></a></p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Also of note:</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">Dave Hewett, a former All Blacks prop who worked in a variety of roles under Blackadder since 2009, didn't lodge an application because he wants to find work as a head coach; he indicated he would be keen to take charge of Canterbury after Robertson has vacated the job at the end of this year's national provincial championship.</blockquote>

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                                          #140

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Tim" data-cid="611325" data-time="1472719837">
                                          <div>
                                          <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/83766432/hawkes-bay-coach-craig-philpott-not-interested-in-crusaders-assistants-role'><strong>Hawke's Bay coach Craig Philpott not interested in Crusaders' assistant's role</strong></a></p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p>Fuck. Someone, anyone please take him</p>

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