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    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

    This speaks to the pressure the players, Cane in particular, are under.

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    With the struggles players like Hooper and Akira have been pretty open about, its a good reminder we can be critical without being cruel.

    Stuff comment - "Richie wouldn't have cried."

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      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

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      Stuff comment - fake news

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        @Frank alt text

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        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

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        dont forget

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        and more so, i dont think Richie would have bought into the kind of bullshit

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            @antipodean Saw that the other night.

            Speaks well and confidently and seems to have some clear ideas.

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              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

              He seems solid, like him. Almost a bit damning of Foster unintentionally when he said Fozzie had a clear idea of what needed to change in the forwards, but obviously Foster couldn't effect that change himself .

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                Schalk Burger on the Rugby Pod -

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                • voodooV voodoo

                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                  He seems solid, like him. Almost a bit damning of Foster unintentionally when he said Fozzie had a clear idea of what needed to change in the forwards, but obviously Foster couldn't effect that change himself .

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                  @voodoo said in All Blacks 2022:

                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                  He seems solid, like him. Almost a bit damning of Foster unintentionally when he said Fozzie had a clear idea of what needed to change in the forwards, but obviously Foster couldn't effect that change himself .

                  More damning of Plumtree IMO. If Foster has been laying out the vision and it's not being implemented then the only fault that lays with him is supporting Plumtree at the end of last year.

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    @voodoo said in All Blacks 2022:

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:

                    He seems solid, like him. Almost a bit damning of Foster unintentionally when he said Fozzie had a clear idea of what needed to change in the forwards, but obviously Foster couldn't effect that change himself .

                    More damning of Plumtree IMO. If Foster has been laying out the vision and it's not being implemented then the only fault that lays with him is supporting Plumtree at the end of last year.

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                    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                    More damning of Plumtree IMO. If Foster has been laying out the vision and it's not being implemented then the only fault that lays with him is supporting Plumtree at the end of last year.

                    While that may be true, there is no 'only'. Foster is the head coach, and team performance is his responsibility. Whether it is caused by Foster's failings or Foster accepting Plumtree's failings is irrelevant.

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                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      More damning of Plumtree IMO. If Foster has been laying out the vision and it's not being implemented then the only fault that lays with him is supporting Plumtree at the end of last year.

                      While that may be true, there is no 'only'. Foster is the head coach, and team performance is his responsibility. Whether it is caused by Foster's failings or Foster accepting Plumtree's failings is irrelevant.

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                      @reprobate said in All Blacks 2022:

                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:

                      More damning of Plumtree IMO. If Foster has been laying out the vision and it's not being implemented then the only fault that lays with him is supporting Plumtree at the end of last year.

                      While that may be true, there is no 'only'. Foster is the head coach, and team performance is his responsibility. Whether it is caused by Foster's failings or Foster accepting Plumtree's failings is irrelevant.

                      Only if you want to ignore a problem may have been fixed.

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                        I want Paps and Sotutu to get some game time. We could be missing a trick here

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                          Schalk Burger on the Rugby Pod -

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                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Schalk Burger on the Rugby Pod -

                          Great story about Palmy steak pie heist.

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                            OK, now the drama is out of the way and we have some certainty, what should we be looking for going forward from the team and coaches?

                            To kick off and not being too technical, I'd like to see the handling improvements maintained, exits from the 22 to be way, way better, the RM/DH/RI axis grow and a touch better positioning from the wingers.

                            In the forwards, think we have yet to get 6 sorted but it's getting better (never thought SF could play that well at Test level), Cane to play the full 80 as well as he does 60, and a backup to Ardie at 8 to be bedded in.

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                                OK, now the drama is out of the way and we have some certainty, what should we be looking for going forward from the team and coaches?

                                To kick off and not being too technical, I'd like to see the handling improvements maintained, exits from the 22 to be way, way better, the RM/DH/RI axis grow and a touch better positioning from the wingers.

                                In the forwards, think we have yet to get 6 sorted but it's getting better (never thought SF could play that well at Test level), Cane to play the full 80 as well as he does 60, and a backup to Ardie at 8 to be bedded in.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                OK, now the drama is out of the way and we have some certainty, what should we be looking for going forward from the team and coaches?

                                To kick off and not being too technical, I'd like to see the handling improvements maintained, exits from the 22 to be way, way better, the RM/DH/RI axis grow and a touch better positioning from the wingers.

                                In the forwards, think we have yet to get 6 sorted but it's getting better (never thought SF could play that well at Test level), Cane to play the full 80 as well as he does 60, and a backup to Ardie at 8 to be bedded in.

                                I do not believe we can win the RWC with that midfield.

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                                • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                  OK, now the drama is out of the way and we have some certainty, what should we be looking for going forward from the team and coaches?

                                  To kick off and not being too technical, I'd like to see the handling improvements maintained, exits from the 22 to be way, way better, the RM/DH/RI axis grow and a touch better positioning from the wingers.

                                  In the forwards, think we have yet to get 6 sorted but it's getting better (never thought SF could play that well at Test level), Cane to play the full 80 as well as he does 60, and a backup to Ardie at 8 to be bedded in.

                                  I do not believe we can win the RWC with that midfield.

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                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                  OK, now the drama is out of the way and we have some certainty, what should we be looking for going forward from the team and coaches?

                                  To kick off and not being too technical, I'd like to see the handling improvements maintained, exits from the 22 to be way, way better, the RM/DH/RI axis grow and a touch better positioning from the wingers.

                                  In the forwards, think we have yet to get 6 sorted but it's getting better (never thought SF could play that well at Test level), Cane to play the full 80 as well as he does 60, and a backup to Ardie at 8 to be bedded in.

                                  I do not believe we can win the RWC with that midfield.

                                  Me neither. Not against the likes of Jonathan Danty, Aki, Kerevi.

                                  Havili was swallowed up and spat out in Dublin on the EOYT.

                                  Rieko scrambled well the other day against the Boks but take away his pace and he would have been fucked. All it will take is a poor defensive read (like Leicester Fainga'anuku shooting up against the Irish) in a World Cup QF and we will be on the plane home.

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                                    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                    OK, now the drama is out of the way and we have some certainty, what should we be looking for going forward from the team and coaches?

                                    To kick off and not being too technical, I'd like to see the handling improvements maintained, exits from the 22 to be way, way better, the RM/DH/RI axis grow and a touch better positioning from the wingers.

                                    In the forwards, think we have yet to get 6 sorted but it's getting better (never thought SF could play that well at Test level), Cane to play the full 80 as well as he does 60, and a backup to Ardie at 8 to be bedded in.

                                    I do not believe we can win the RWC with that midfield.

                                    Me neither. Not against the likes of Jonathan Danty, Aki, Kerevi.

                                    Havili was swallowed up and spat out in Dublin on the EOYT.

                                    Rieko scrambled well the other day against the Boks but take away his pace and he would have been fucked. All it will take is a poor defensive read (like Leicester Fainga'anuku shooting up against the Irish) in a World Cup QF and we will be on the plane home.

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                                    @Steve said in Foster:

                                    take away his pace and he would have been fucked

                                    Know something we don't?

                                    Take away half of Taukieaho and he won't be very good at hitting and carting the ball up, I don't think that means he's not fit for his role.

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                                    • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                      OK, now the drama is out of the way and we have some certainty, what should we be looking for going forward from the team and coaches?

                                      To kick off and not being too technical, I'd like to see the handling improvements maintained, exits from the 22 to be way, way better, the RM/DH/RI axis grow and a touch better positioning from the wingers.

                                      In the forwards, think we have yet to get 6 sorted but it's getting better (never thought SF could play that well at Test level), Cane to play the full 80 as well as he does 60, and a backup to Ardie at 8 to be bedded in.

                                      I do not believe we can win the RWC with that midfield.

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                                      @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster:

                                      I do not believe we can win the RWC with that midfield.

                                      Well, not if it doesn't grow or get better - which is why I brought it up as an area for improvement. So what would we like to see Foster and co do to improve things?

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster:

                                        I do not believe we can win the RWC with that midfield.

                                        Well, not if it doesn't grow or get better - which is why I brought it up as an area for improvement. So what would we like to see Foster and co do to improve things?

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster:

                                        I do not believe we can win the RWC with that midfield.

                                        Well, not if it doesn't grow or get better - which is why I brought it up as an area for improvement. So what would we like to see Foster and co do to improve things?

                                        Time is against us.

                                        Would like to see Havili/Goodhue get some time with current game plan.

                                        EOYT we may have ALB back, so could try him at 12 and Rieko/Goodhue at 13.

                                        Also Tupaea/ALB and Tupaea/Goodhue.

                                        Not enough games?!

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster:

                                          I do not believe we can win the RWC with that midfield.

                                          Well, not if it doesn't grow or get better - which is why I brought it up as an area for improvement. So what would we like to see Foster and co do to improve things?

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster:

                                          I do not believe we can win the RWC with that midfield.

                                          Well, not if it doesn't grow or get better - which is why I brought it up as an area for improvement. So what would we like to see Foster and co do to improve things?

                                          Probably a complete pipe dream but IMHO the best combo is JB and Goodhue. I would love to see a backline of Smith, BB/RM, JB, Goodhue, Reiko, Clark, Jordan. That would be pretty. In terms of 10, I heart BB, but I heart the Allblacks more. I'd like to see both the 10s play under the "new regime" of a forward pack actually establishing go-forward before passing judgement.

                                          In the forwards, I think we need at least 2 big munters starting in the back row. Ardie and Cane starting isn't optimal and one has to be benched. Nothing new there I guess.

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