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All Blacks v Pumas 1

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  • FrankF Frank

    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

    @Tim said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129610861/ian-foster-drops-hint-that-all-blacks-are-looking-at-younger-players-as-joe-schmidts-influence-grows

    Watching the video of the presser in that article makes me wish I knew more about body language. To me Foster looks very secure and confident while Robinson is almost squirming.

    I think it is because Foster carried himself with dignity, Robinson, not so much.

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      Los Pumas have come out of the gate in both Tests, so we'll need to get another good start. Despite the score line in their second game against Oz, I felt the ball bounced their way at almost every opportunity. They'll be a threat but if we front like we did against the Boks, we should come out of it with another in the win column.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        Los Pumas have come out of the gate in both Tests, so we'll need to get another good start. Despite the score line in their second game against Oz, I felt the ball bounced their way at almost every opportunity. They'll be a threat but if we front like we did against the Boks, we should come out of it with another in the win column.

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        @antipodean said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

        Los Pumas have come out of the gate in both Tests,

        getting off to a good start is something we need to work on, slow starts in 4 of the last 5 tests, and when you are struggling with timing, cohesion etc, it makes it that much harder to come back from.

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        • SnowyS Snowy

          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          @nzzp said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          @Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          @Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?

          Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?

          Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.

          Fuck off and find your own spot, you're knocking my rifle cradle.

          you boys are no @Snowy

          @Snowy is helping with the clean up and disposal.

          I assume that you are still the long arm of the law so I’d just be helping the police with their “enquiries”.

          Best way to dispose of “stuff” is online auction from a storage unit. Just saying.

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          @Snowy said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          @nzzp said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          @Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          @Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

          Do the ABs do public training runs? If so, anyone know where and when they are training this week in Christchurch? I am guessing Rugby Park?

          Ohhh suuuuure, like we're going to give you the whereabouts of Foster. Want to know good grassy knoll hiding spots too?

          Fuck, I didn't think anyone on here was smart enough to work out my plan.

          Fuck off and find your own spot, you're knocking my rifle cradle.

          you boys are no @Snowy

          @Snowy is helping with the clean up and disposal.

          I assume that you are still the long arm of the law so I’d just be helping the police with their “enquiries”.

          Best way to dispose of “stuff” is online auction from a storage unit. Just saying.

          Welcome back mate. I think…

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          • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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            For the sake of all fun loving rugby fans, there is no way we could beat losing to a Cheika led Argies team right now. Excruciating.

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              Josh Dickson debut off the bench this weekend yes or no?

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                With no Ofa or Nepo, it looks unlikely that there will be a change to front row players that played on SA 2.

                Just a question on who starts up front. I’d go with the same starters and possibly give Newell a shot at starting in game 2.

                Not that o thought he was a genuine chance, but with Tuipoluto’s injury, and Retallick getting the HB shield match, the Scooter, Sam and Vaa’i trio looks locked in. I wouldn’t mind seeing Dickson in there or against the Aussies as I think there is real promise.

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                • GrooterG Grooter

                  Josh Dickson debut off the bench this weekend yes or no?

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                  @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                  Josh Dickson debut off the bench this weekend yes or no?

                  I don't think he will, Whitelock,Barrett Starting Vaa'i on the bench is what I think will be selected..

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                    Josh Dickson debut off the bench this weekend yes or no?

                    I don't think he will, Whitelock,Barrett Starting Vaa'i on the bench is what I think will be selected..

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                    @Chris ok😔

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                      I think they will roll out the same 23 as long as there are no injuries. Only possibilities being giving Sotutu a run (Ioane to stand aside) and if the tapes of Argentina v Oz show a potential late in the game the using Fakatava's running game could be tried.
                      I also wish that we were secure enough to dump BB for a game (Perofeta on bench) based on being the most recent Barrett to do something really dumb

                      E. L. de Groot
                      S. F. S. Taukei'aho
                      T. S. Lomax
                      S. L. Whitelock
                      S. K. Barrett
                      S. M. Frizell
                      S. J. Cane (C)
                      A. S. Savea
                      A. L. Smith
                      R. F. Mo'unga
                      C. D. Clarke
                      D. K. Havili
                      R. E. Ioane
                      W. T. Jordan
                      J. M. Barrett

                      RESERVES
                      C. J. D. Taylor
                      G. G. Bower
                      F. D. Newell
                      T. P. O. Vaa'i
                      A. L. Ioane / Sotutu
                      F. T. Christie / Fakatava

                      B. J. Barrett
                      Q. P. C. Tupaea

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        I think they will roll out the same 23 as long as there are no injuries. Only possibilities being giving Sotutu a run (Ioane to stand aside) and if the tapes of Argentina v Oz show a potential late in the game the using Fakatava's running game could be tried.
                        I also wish that we were secure enough to dump BB for a game (Perofeta on bench) based on being the most recent Barrett to do something really dumb

                        E. L. de Groot
                        S. F. S. Taukei'aho
                        T. S. Lomax
                        S. L. Whitelock
                        S. K. Barrett
                        S. M. Frizell
                        S. J. Cane (C)
                        A. S. Savea
                        A. L. Smith
                        R. F. Mo'unga
                        C. D. Clarke
                        D. K. Havili
                        R. E. Ioane
                        W. T. Jordan
                        J. M. Barrett

                        RESERVES
                        C. J. D. Taylor
                        G. G. Bower
                        F. D. Newell
                        T. P. O. Vaa'i
                        A. L. Ioane / Sotutu
                        F. T. Christie / Fakatava

                        B. J. Barrett
                        Q. P. C. Tupaea

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                        @Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                        the most recent Barrett to do something really dumb

                        You mean the YC for the push off the ball?

                        Some may say it was quite smart and calculated given proximity to the line...

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          @Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                          the most recent Barrett to do something really dumb

                          You mean the YC for the push off the ball?

                          Some may say it was quite smart and calculated given proximity to the line...

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                          @booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                          @Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                          the most recent Barrett to do something really dumb

                          You mean the YC for the push off the ball?

                          Some may say it was quite smart and calculated given proximity to the line...

                          If so then he decided it would have been a try otherwise. Lucky that Pearce didn't think the same. Was a fine margin IMO.

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                            Think they'll pick the same team as Boer II as much as possible and try to build on that win. Less mistakes, bit better positioning out wide, that sort of thing. If things are going well, the likes of Paps, Sotutu, Vai'i and QT given more game time than usual - think it's a bit early to have RTS on the bench for Pumas 1 but expect some serious game time in the next match.

                            The Pumas won't be a pushover so a decent win would be show some consistency and wouldn't that be a good thing?

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                              Expect to see much the same starting 15. Leeway for some variation on bench. Sotutu highlighted by Foster, and certainly through offload of the year against Mooloo.

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                              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                @Crucial you get what people mean surely

                                other teams might spend time building phases, working their way up field and yes....the perfect dummy or skip pass puts someone over the line

                                We try and do our moment of brilliance inside out own half and strike from anywhere without the graft to put them in a position where it is more likely to work

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                                @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                @Crucial you get what people mean surely

                                other teams might spend time building phases, working their way up field and yes....the perfect dummy or skip pass puts someone over the line

                                We try and do our moment of brilliance inside out own half and strike from anywhere without the graft to put them in a position where it is more likely to work

                                Don't we need to do both?

                                There was a fair bit of that in Boer II, IIRC.

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  Think they'll pick the same team as Boer II as much as possible and try to build on that win. Less mistakes, bit better positioning out wide, that sort of thing. If things are going well, the likes of Paps, Sotutu, Vai'i and QT given more game time than usual - think it's a bit early to have RTS on the bench for Pumas 1 but expect some serious game time in the next match.

                                  The Pumas won't be a pushover so a decent win would be show some consistency and wouldn't that be a good thing?

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                  Think they'll pick the same team as Boer II as much as possible and try to build on that win. Less mistakes, bit better positioning out wide, that sort of thing. If things are going well, the likes of Paps, Sotutu, Vai'i and QT given more game time than usual - think it's a bit early to have RTS on the bench for Pumas 1 but expect some serious game time in the next match.

                                  The Pumas won't be a pushover so a decent win would be show some consistency and wouldn't that be a good thing?

                                  Fewer.

                                  Just saying.

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                                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                    Think they'll pick the same team as Boer II as much as possible and try to build on that win. Less mistakes, bit better positioning out wide, that sort of thing. If things are going well, the likes of Paps, Sotutu, Vai'i and QT given more game time than usual - think it's a bit early to have RTS on the bench for Pumas 1 but expect some serious game time in the next match.

                                    The Pumas won't be a pushover so a decent win would be show some consistency and wouldn't that be a good thing?

                                    Fewer.

                                    Just saying.

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                                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                    Think they'll pick the same team as Boer II as much as possible and try to build on that win. Less mistakes, bit better positioning out wide, that sort of thing. If things are going well, the likes of Paps, Sotutu, Vai'i and QT given more game time than usual - think it's a bit early to have RTS on the bench for Pumas 1 but expect some serious game time in the next match.

                                    The Pumas won't be a pushover so a decent win would be show some consistency and wouldn't that be a good thing?

                                    Fewer.

                                    Just saying.

                                    I dunno, some of the errors were pretty voluminous.

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                                    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                      Think they'll pick the same team as Boer II as much as possible and try to build on that win. Less mistakes, bit better positioning out wide, that sort of thing. If things are going well, the likes of Paps, Sotutu, Vai'i and QT given more game time than usual - think it's a bit early to have RTS on the bench for Pumas 1 but expect some serious game time in the next match.

                                      The Pumas won't be a pushover so a decent win would be show some consistency and wouldn't that be a good thing?

                                      Fewer.

                                      Just saying.

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                                      @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                      Think they'll pick the same team as Boer II as much as possible and try to build on that win. Less mistakes, bit better positioning out wide, that sort of thing. If things are going well, the likes of Paps, Sotutu, Vai'i and QT given more game time than usual - think it's a bit early to have RTS on the bench for Pumas 1 but expect some serious game time in the next match.

                                      The Pumas won't be a pushover so a decent win would be show some consistency and wouldn't that be a good thing?

                                      Fewer.

                                      Just saying.

                                      But not all mistakes all countable, e.g. players not positioning well. Fewer knock-ons and penalties is correct as it's definitive/countable. Less mistakes is equally correct as it includes non-countable stuff.

                                      Hope that's clear.... :fishing_pole:

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                        @Crucial you get what people mean surely

                                        other teams might spend time building phases, working their way up field and yes....the perfect dummy or skip pass puts someone over the line

                                        We try and do our moment of brilliance inside out own half and strike from anywhere without the graft to put them in a position where it is more likely to work

                                        Don't we need to do both?

                                        There was a fair bit of that in Boer II, IIRC.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                        @Crucial you get what people mean surely

                                        other teams might spend time building phases, working their way up field and yes....the perfect dummy or skip pass puts someone over the line

                                        We try and do our moment of brilliance inside out own half and strike from anywhere without the graft to put them in a position where it is more likely to work

                                        Don't we need to do both?

                                        There was a fair bit of that in Boer II, IIRC.

                                        of course thats what we should be aiming for, i only have a problem when we only try and do the fancy stuff and not the hard graft

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:

                                          Think they'll pick the same team as Boer II as much as possible and try to build on that win. Less mistakes, bit better positioning out wide, that sort of thing. If things are going well, the likes of Paps, Sotutu, Vai'i and QT given more game time than usual - think it's a bit early to have RTS on the bench for Pumas 1 but expect some serious game time in the next match.

                                          The Pumas won't be a pushover so a decent win would be show some consistency and wouldn't that be a good thing?

                                          Fewer.

                                          Just saying.

                                          But not all mistakes all countable, e.g. players not positioning well. Fewer knock-ons and penalties is correct as it's definitive/countable. Less mistakes is equally correct as it includes non-countable stuff.

                                          Hope that's clear.... :fishing_pole:

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew christ, your a pendant

                                          (triggered yet?)

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