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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @His-Bobness said in Foster:

    Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’

    Why does a rugby pundit find it necessary to write under a moniker?

    Some good points but Foster seemed as pissed off as anyone that Mounga put the kicking game away.
    The biggest failure is the latitude given to players to play what is in front of them when they have shown time and time again that that arent very astute.

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    #3205

    @Crucial said in Foster:

    @His-Bobness said in Foster:

    Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’

    Why does a rugby pundit find it necessary to write under a moniker?

    Some good points but Foster seemed as pissed off as anyone that Mounga put the kicking game away.
    The biggest failure is the latitude given to players to play what is in front of them when they have shown time and time again that that arent very astute.

    Who is it? I just assumed a normal forum name

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    • M Machpants

      @Crucial said in Foster:

      @His-Bobness said in Foster:

      Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’

      Why does a rugby pundit find it necessary to write under a moniker?

      Some good points but Foster seemed as pissed off as anyone that Mounga put the kicking game away.
      The biggest failure is the latitude given to players to play what is in front of them when they have shown time and time again that that arent very astute.

      Who is it? I just assumed a normal forum name

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      Crucial
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      #3206

      @Machpants said in Foster:

      @Crucial said in Foster:

      @His-Bobness said in Foster:

      Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’

      Why does a rugby pundit find it necessary to write under a moniker?

      Some good points but Foster seemed as pissed off as anyone that Mounga put the kicking game away.
      The biggest failure is the latitude given to players to play what is in front of them when they have shown time and time again that that arent very astute.

      Who is it? I just assumed a normal forum name

      You may be correct. I don't know how the Roar works. Is it a combination of journalists and posters that think they are?

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @Machpants said in Foster:

        @Crucial said in Foster:

        @His-Bobness said in Foster:

        Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’

        Why does a rugby pundit find it necessary to write under a moniker?

        Some good points but Foster seemed as pissed off as anyone that Mounga put the kicking game away.
        The biggest failure is the latitude given to players to play what is in front of them when they have shown time and time again that that arent very astute.

        Who is it? I just assumed a normal forum name

        You may be correct. I don't know how the Roar works. Is it a combination of journalists and posters that think they are?

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        Machpants
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        #3207

        @Crucial said in Foster:

        @Machpants said in Foster:

        @Crucial said in Foster:

        @His-Bobness said in Foster:

        Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’

        Why does a rugby pundit find it necessary to write under a moniker?

        Some good points but Foster seemed as pissed off as anyone that Mounga put the kicking game away.
        The biggest failure is the latitude given to players to play what is in front of them when they have shown time and time again that that arent very astute.

        Who is it? I just assumed a normal forum name

        You may be correct. I don't know how the Roar works. Is it a combination of journalists and posters that think they are?

        Yeah I'm a GURU cos I've written an article, you submit and it can get published

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        • His BobnessH His Bobness

          Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’ on Foster’s incomprehensible single-minded devotion to helter-skelter play that pays little heed to what the opposition will bring to the game. We have seen this so many times now, it raises questions about the man’s intelligence:

          “The Foster iteration of the All Blacks has no identity, and even when they show periods of high-quality international rugby, it is not maintained and this reversion to helter-skelter nonsense just repeats ad nauseam from a side that simply does not have the skillset to play the way the way they are pursuing. For mine, this ill-directed game plan has an inbuilt negative multiplier of poor selection, both in personnel and positions.”

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          #3208

          @His-Bobness said in Foster:

          Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’ on Foster’s incomprehensible single-minded devotion to helter-skelter play that pays little heed to what the opposition will bring to the game. We have seen this so many times now, it raises questions about the man’s intelligence:

          “The Foster iteration of the All Blacks has no identity, and even when they show periods of high-quality international rugby, it is not maintained and this reversion to helter-skelter nonsense just repeats ad nauseam from a side that simply does not have the skillset to play the way the way they are pursuing. For mine, this ill-directed game plan has an inbuilt negative multiplier of poor selection, both in personnel and positions.”

          IMO that's a pretty ignorant analysis. In this interview Foster highlights that there were tactical options which ought to be adopted, the implication being that it was NOT the coaches' instruction to play 'helter-skelter'. All in all I think Foster makes cogent points and handled this presser well:

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @His-Bobness said in Foster:

            Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’

            Why does a rugby pundit find it necessary to write under a moniker?

            Some good points but Foster seemed as pissed off as anyone that Mounga put the kicking game away.
            The biggest failure is the latitude given to players to play what is in front of them when they have shown time and time again that that arent very astute.

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            Billy Tell
            wrote on last edited by
            #3209

            @Crucial said in Foster:

            @His-Bobness said in Foster:

            Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’

            Why does a rugby pundit find it necessary to write under a moniker?

            Some good points but Foster seemed as pissed off as anyone that Mounga put the kicking game away.
            The biggest failure is the latitude given to players to play what is in front of them when they have shown time and time again that that arent very astute.

            Its not a moniker. He was born at the end of 1986, his parents having had fun times after watching Lambert and Connery in action.

            As a side note, the totally unsubstantiated rumours about Razor and Ryan falling out should be let go until there is actual confirmation. Razor seems to be constantly subjected to unsubstantiated rumour these days.

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            • P pakman

              @His-Bobness said in Foster:

              Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’ on Foster’s incomprehensible single-minded devotion to helter-skelter play that pays little heed to what the opposition will bring to the game. We have seen this so many times now, it raises questions about the man’s intelligence:

              “The Foster iteration of the All Blacks has no identity, and even when they show periods of high-quality international rugby, it is not maintained and this reversion to helter-skelter nonsense just repeats ad nauseam from a side that simply does not have the skillset to play the way the way they are pursuing. For mine, this ill-directed game plan has an inbuilt negative multiplier of poor selection, both in personnel and positions.”

              IMO that's a pretty ignorant analysis. In this interview Foster highlights that there were tactical options which ought to be adopted, the implication being that it was NOT the coaches' instruction to play 'helter-skelter'. All in all I think Foster makes cogent points and handled this presser well:

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              Billy Tell
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              #3210

              @pakman said in Foster:

              @His-Bobness said in Foster:

              Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’ on Foster’s incomprehensible single-minded devotion to helter-skelter play that pays little heed to what the opposition will bring to the game. We have seen this so many times now, it raises questions about the man’s intelligence:

              “The Foster iteration of the All Blacks has no identity, and even when they show periods of high-quality international rugby, it is not maintained and this reversion to helter-skelter nonsense just repeats ad nauseam from a side that simply does not have the skillset to play the way the way they are pursuing. For mine, this ill-directed game plan has an inbuilt negative multiplier of poor selection, both in personnel and positions.”

              IMO that's a pretty ignorant analysis. In this interview Foster highlights that there were tactical options which ought to be adopted, the implication being that it was NOT the coaches' instruction to play 'helter-skelter'. All in all I think Foster makes cogent points and handled this presser well:

              The guy talks the talk but his results never match the dialogue.

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              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                @Crucial said in Foster:

                @His-Bobness said in Foster:

                Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’

                Why does a rugby pundit find it necessary to write under a moniker?

                Some good points but Foster seemed as pissed off as anyone that Mounga put the kicking game away.
                The biggest failure is the latitude given to players to play what is in front of them when they have shown time and time again that that arent very astute.

                Its not a moniker. He was born at the end of 1986, his parents having had fun times after watching Lambert and Connery in action.

                As a side note, the totally unsubstantiated rumours about Razor and Ryan falling out should be let go until there is actual confirmation. Razor seems to be constantly subjected to unsubstantiated rumour these days.

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                Chris
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                @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                the totally unsubstantiated rumours about Razor and Ryan falling out should be let go until there is actual confirmation.

                You are not going to get confirmation as its in house.
                100% correct from the Horses mouth.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                  the totally unsubstantiated rumours about Razor and Ryan falling out should be let go until there is actual confirmation.

                  You are not going to get confirmation as its in house.
                  100% correct from the Horses mouth.

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                  pakman
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                  #3212

                  @Chris said in Foster:

                  @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                  the totally unsubstantiated rumours about Razor and Ryan falling out should be let go until there is actual confirmation.

                  You are not going to get confirmation as its in house.
                  100% correct from the Horses mouth.

                  Poll for which one is the horse?

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                  • P pakman

                    @Chris said in Foster:

                    @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                    the totally unsubstantiated rumours about Razor and Ryan falling out should be let go until there is actual confirmation.

                    You are not going to get confirmation as its in house.
                    100% correct from the Horses mouth.

                    Poll for which one is the horse?

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                    Chris
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                    #3213

                    @pakman said in Foster:

                    @Chris said in Foster:

                    @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                    the totally unsubstantiated rumours about Razor and Ryan falling out should be let go until there is actual confirmation.

                    You are not going to get confirmation as its in house.
                    100% correct from the Horses mouth.

                    Poll for which one is the horse?

                    Pretty easy to figure out .

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @His-Bobness said in Foster:

                      Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’

                      Why does a rugby pundit find it necessary to write under a moniker?

                      Some good points but Foster seemed as pissed off as anyone that Mounga put the kicking game away.
                      The biggest failure is the latitude given to players to play what is in front of them when they have shown time and time again that that arent very astute.

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                      pakman
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                      #3214

                      @Crucial said in Foster:

                      @His-Bobness said in Foster:

                      Excellent analysis in the Roar by ‘Highlander’

                      Why does a rugby pundit find it necessary to write under a moniker?

                      Some good points but Foster seemed as pissed off as anyone that Mounga put the kicking game away.
                      The biggest failure is the latitude given to players to play what is in front of them when they have shown time and time again that that arent very astute.

                      Maybe that's why Owen Farrell gets game time despite his obvious shortcomings.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @pakman said in Foster:

                        @Chris said in Foster:

                        @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                        the totally unsubstantiated rumours about Razor and Ryan falling out should be let go until there is actual confirmation.

                        You are not going to get confirmation as its in house.
                        100% correct from the Horses mouth.

                        Poll for which one is the horse?

                        Pretty easy to figure out .

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                        pakman
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                        #3215

                        @Chris said in Foster:

                        @pakman said in Foster:

                        @Chris said in Foster:

                        @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                        the totally unsubstantiated rumours about Razor and Ryan falling out should be let go until there is actual confirmation.

                        You are not going to get confirmation as its in house.
                        100% correct from the Horses mouth.

                        Poll for which one is the horse?

                        Pretty easy to figure out .

                        Life’s too short for that sort of fluff.

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                        • DamoD Damo

                          Aaron Smith coming off with 20 to go was poor as well. He was playing OK, but more to the point what we needed was experience and cool heads, not a guy with basically no experience.

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                          Joans Town Jones
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                          #3216

                          @Damo said in Foster:

                          Aaron Smith coming off with 20 to go was poor as well. He was playing OK, but more to the point what we needed was experience and cool heads, not a guy with basically no experience.

                          He was playing dog shit by then. Like the rest of 'em. Christie needs a start now.

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                            Joans Town Jones
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                            #3217

                            Very clearly the leadership group is not functioning. For 40 mins it was doing all right then after a momentum swinger it appeared the leaders failed to grab the team by the scruff and change the plan to at least gain some dominance. Have the ABs even achieved a 50/22 yet since it's implementation?

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                            • P pakman

                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              @pakman said in Foster:

                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                              the totally unsubstantiated rumours about Razor and Ryan falling out should be let go until there is actual confirmation.

                              You are not going to get confirmation as its in house.
                              100% correct from the Horses mouth.

                              Poll for which one is the horse?

                              Pretty easy to figure out .

                              Life’s too short for that sort of fluff.

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                              Chris
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                              #3218

                              @pakman said in Foster:

                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              @pakman said in Foster:

                              @Chris said in Foster:

                              @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                              the totally unsubstantiated rumours about Razor and Ryan falling out should be let go until there is actual confirmation.

                              You are not going to get confirmation as its in house.
                              100% correct from the Horses mouth.

                              Poll for which one is the horse?

                              Pretty easy to figure out .

                              Life’s too short for that sort of fluff.

                              Just think it’s not to hard or is it.

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                                Steve
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                                Think about who the leadership group are

                                Aaron Smith, Beaudy, Cane, Etc are involved

                                Quiet diminutive fellas .

                                Need some more McCaws, Reads , Carters that people will actually listen to.

                                Carter didn’t have to be hidden in the back field . He would put you on your arse and try and flog the ball .

                                We are hiding our tens in the back field and hooking our captain at 60 minutes.

                                It’s a shambles

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                                  Joans Town Jones
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                                  I can't wait to see Ross Karl's reaction to this. He was proper steaming from the ears after SA1, calmed down a touch after SA2 but I fully expect him to go complete Red Ross.

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    @pakman said in Foster:

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @pakman said in Foster:

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                                    the totally unsubstantiated rumours about Razor and Ryan falling out should be let go until there is actual confirmation.

                                    You are not going to get confirmation as its in house.
                                    100% correct from the Horses mouth.

                                    Poll for which one is the horse?

                                    Pretty easy to figure out .

                                    Life’s too short for that sort of fluff.

                                    Just think it’s not to hard or is it.

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                                    pakman
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                                    #3221

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @pakman said in Foster:

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @pakman said in Foster:

                                    @Chris said in Foster:

                                    @Billy-Tell said in Foster:

                                    the totally unsubstantiated rumours about Razor and Ryan falling out should be let go until there is actual confirmation.

                                    You are not going to get confirmation as its in house.
                                    100% correct from the Horses mouth.

                                    Poll for which one is the horse?

                                    Pretty easy to figure out .

                                    Life’s too short for that sort of fluff.

                                    Just think it’s not to hard or is it.

                                    I believe I understand who you're fingering.

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                                    • S Steve

                                      Think about who the leadership group are

                                      Aaron Smith, Beaudy, Cane, Etc are involved

                                      Quiet diminutive fellas .

                                      Need some more McCaws, Reads , Carters that people will actually listen to.

                                      Carter didn’t have to be hidden in the back field . He would put you on your arse and try and flog the ball .

                                      We are hiding our tens in the back field and hooking our captain at 60 minutes.

                                      It’s a shambles

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                                      broughie
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                                      @Steve you’re right. We don’t have a good leader ship. We might have a leadership group but not based on their play on the park. The only leaders out there, from a playing perspective, in the pack are Ardie and ST and Cane to a lesser degree. Whitelock is great in the line outs but old around the park. SB might be close but I don’t remember his contribution last game. Maybe they need to invest in the future but Foster is adverse to change which part of his problem.

                                      In the backs, if the goal was to get away from the healter skelter, Aaron Smith is not the guy. So he has a great pass. We need a halfback to play test footie and direct that that forward pack around the field. I can understand why he was pulled.

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                                      • Joans Town JonesJ Joans Town Jones

                                        Very clearly the leadership group is not functioning. For 40 mins it was doing all right then after a momentum swinger it appeared the leaders failed to grab the team by the scruff and change the plan to at least gain some dominance. Have the ABs even achieved a 50/22 yet since it's implementation?

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                                        reprobate
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #3223

                                        @Joans-Town-Jones said in Foster:

                                        Very clearly the leadership group is not functioning. For 40 mins it was doing all right then after a momentum swinger it appeared the leaders failed to grab the team by the scruff and change the plan to at least gain some dominance. Have the ABs even achieved a 50/22 yet since it's implementation?

                                        It's hard to achieve too many 50/22s when your tactic is shitty chip kicks and bombs in your own half.
                                        Also Foster actually said specifically that the new 50/22 rule wasn't important.

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                                        • broughieB broughie

                                          @Steve you’re right. We don’t have a good leader ship. We might have a leadership group but not based on their play on the park. The only leaders out there, from a playing perspective, in the pack are Ardie and ST and Cane to a lesser degree. Whitelock is great in the line outs but old around the park. SB might be close but I don’t remember his contribution last game. Maybe they need to invest in the future but Foster is adverse to change which part of his problem.

                                          In the backs, if the goal was to get away from the healter skelter, Aaron Smith is not the guy. So he has a great pass. We need a halfback to play test footie and direct that that forward pack around the field. I can understand why he was pulled.

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                                          reprobate
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #3224

                                          @broughie said in Foster:

                                          @Steve you’re right. We don’t have a good leader ship. We might have a leadership group but not based on their play on the park. The only leaders out there, from a playing perspective, in the pack are Ardie and ST and Cane to a lesser degree. Whitelock is great in the line outs but old around the park. SB might be close but I don’t remember his contribution last game. Maybe they need to invest in the future but Foster is adverse to change which part of his problem.

                                          In the backs, if the goal was to get away from the healter skelter, Aaron Smith is not the guy. So he has a great pass. We need a halfback to play test footie and direct that that forward pack around the field. I can understand why he was pulled.

                                          Aaron Smith absolutely is the guy, and yes, it's because he has a great pass. I atruggle to imagine how much worse our 10s would look under more pressure with inaccurate slow passing and less time, and having to worry about catching the ball before they have time to think about what they're doing.
                                          Although you could argue that they're not going to think about it no matter how much time they have I guess.

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