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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    #406

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rustycruiser" data-cid="590367" data-time="1466553978">
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    <p>Varis is on his way to Dorne methinks.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>I think he might be on his way to KL to knock off Kevan and Pycelle.</p>

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  • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Virgil" data-cid="590387" data-time="1466556177">
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    <p>The wall to come down at the end ?</p>
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    <p> </p>
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    <p>That would be a great end to the season. But possibly a bit early? I am still trying to think about where the final battle will take place. </p>
    <p>I would guess that the south will be ravages and subdued by Daenerys and the North will be the battle field for the White Walkers. </p>

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    <p>There are two seasons left right? The Wall will have to stay up a bit longer I think. When that baby falls, the Others will march right on through.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>To be honest I really don't care about all that white walker stuff and black magic. To me the awesome thing about the story is the various players and battles between the different houses in Westeros. But unfortunately the undead will probably be the most important thing about the series going forward.</p>

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    #409

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="590394" data-time="1466556882"><p>That would be a great end to the season. But possibly a bit early? I am still trying to think about where the final battle will take place. <br>
    I would guess that the south will be ravages and subdued by Daenerys and the North will be the battle field for the White Walkers.</p></blockquote>
    <br>
    Yeah just depends how they are planning next season. Supposedly there's only 13 or so episodes left all up. Might be too soon to breach the wall but would expect them to at least arrive there?

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="590404" data-time="1466559141"><p>There are two seasons left right? The Wall will have to stay up a bit longer I think. When that baby falls, the Others will march right on through.<br><br>
    To be honest I really don't care about all that white walker stuff and black magic. To me the awesome thing about the story is the various players and battles between the different houses in Westeros. But unfortunately the undead will probably be the most important thing about the series going forward.</p></blockquote>
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    2 short seasons left, only looks like 7 episodes next year.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    <p>so this wall....does it extend out into the sea? Why cant the walkers simply get through some of the poorly manned Watch Castles or can they get round one of the ends? Was the wall created to keep them out, or the Wildlings, given the latter surely could make boats and get round it?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>That place looks cold, no chance the wall will melt...</p>

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  • MN5M Offline
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    <p>There's a lot to be said for a despicable bad guy <em>who has personality. </em>Star Wars, the better Bond flicks, Die Hard, Hannibal Lecter, Tintin ( books ) to name a few all got by on having a good bad guy you love to hate. Now Ramsay is gone we have the frightening White Walker leader whose personality leaves me as cold as the place he lives in. I suppose Predator and Aliens did well despite having ruthless killing machines with no personality so you get the feeling if the houses unite to face whatever the fuck comes over the wall the general tone of the show might change somewhat. Whatever differences everyone has they're all still human and actually alive after all......</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>As an aside do any nerds want to guess how big Westeros actually is ? ie is a jaunt in the saddle from Kings Landing to Winterfell the equivalent of me going to Napier from Wellington or am I completely wrong ? Given its similarity to Britain on the map I suspect it's about that sort of size.</p>

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    Does matter how big it is? These guys apparently have jetpacks or teleportation devices. I'd put good money on Ayra showing up in the Riverlands in the next episode.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="590436" data-time="1466562627">
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    <p>Does matter how big it is? These guys apparently have jetpacks or teleportation devices. I'd put good money on Ayra showing up in the Riverlands in the next episode.</p>
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    <p>Come on Rancid, serious answers only. I want some sense of realism in a land populated by Dragons, Giants, Undead and hot chicks with perky tits and inexplicably trimmed minges......</p>

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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="590438" data-time="1466562908"><p>
    Come on Rancid, serious answers only. I want some sense of realism in a land populated by Dragons, Giants, Undead and hot chicks with perky tits and inexplicably trimmed minges......</p></blockquote>
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    Sorry what was the question again? I kind of got distracted reading the last part...<br><br>
    Ah yes scale. There are a heap of maps around but I don't think they indicate distance. I reckon it has to be the size of Britain, or perhaps Germany with Austria and Switzerland. <br><br>
    The explanation for most superfast travel seems to be that they sail. Perhaps the boats are cutting edge?

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  • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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    <p>This is starting to remind of NTA saying Z nation wasn't a realistic enough zombie apocalypse...</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The travel times in GOT have never really bothered me. It took Sam months to travel what others seem to have done in days... meh.</p>

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="590343" data-time="1466548502">
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    <p>She is a few hard years from this... and she will be boring an tell bad jokes.</p>
    <p>[Spoiler]</p>
    <p><img src="http://h7.alamy.com/comp/D24WWX/old-woman-with-white-hair-new-ireland-island-kapleman-village-papua-D24WWX.jpg" alt="old-woman-with-white-hair-new-ireland-is"></p>
    <p>[/spoiler]</p>
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    <p>Meh, I'll be well dead by the time she looks like that  - and I don't plan to sit around telling jokes with her, meanwhile Theon's brother is in his prime now, ugh.</p>

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  • MN5M Offline
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    <p>This is starting to remind of NTA saying Z nation wasn't a realistic enough zombie apocalypse...</p>
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    <p>The travel times in GOT have never really bothered me.<strong> It took Sam months to travel what others seem to have done in days</strong>... meh.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Yeaah but fat fluffybunnies take ages to get anywhere though.....</p>

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="590445" data-time="1466563770">
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    <p>Sorry what was the question again? I kind of got distracted reading the last part...<br><br>
    Ah yes scale. There are a heap of maps around but I don't think they indicate distance. I reckon it has to be the size of Britain, or perhaps Germany with Austria and Switzerland.<br><br>
    The explanation for most superfast travel seems to be that they sail. Perhaps the boats are cutting edge?</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Google suggests significantly bigger - people suggesting around the size of South America.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Someone referencing the wall as being 100 leagues and drawing this comparison:</p>
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    <p>If the Wall is really 100 leagues long, that would make the known portion of Westeros (from the southernmost tip of Dorne to the Wall, since we don't know how big the Land of Always Winter is) about 1084 leagues* long (6022 km, 3742 miles).</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>That's roughly the same distance as from the tip of South America to the Equator Line, from Miami to Alaska, from Portugal to Afghanistan, or from the easternmost tip of Europe to the Pacific Ocean. It's one massive continent, </p>
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    <p> </p>
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  • Rancid SchnitzelR Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="590458" data-time="1466566609">
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Google suggests significantly bigger - people suggesting around the size of South America.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Someone referencing the wall as being 100 leagues and drawing this comparison:</p>
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    <p>Cheers. That makes the travelling speeds even more ridiculous.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>But, I do recall reading that the fat man realised he'd stuffed up with the dimensions of the wall, so perhaps he originally meant for Westeros to be smaller, but inadvertently made it the size of South America.</p>

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    <p>Cheers. That makes the travelling speeds even more ridiculous.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>But, I do recall reading that the fat man realised he'd stuffed up with the dimensions of the wall, so perhaps he originally meant for Westeros to be smaller, but inadvertently made it the size of South America.</p>
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    <p>Quite possible, but you'd think one of the points of drawing the maps would be to help him keep himself oriented. In the first link below is someone saying GRRM himself said as big as Sth America. Second link (more interesting) - some guy has written an essay about how big it is based on his research of the texts.</p>
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    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/89250-how-big-is-westeros-compared-to-the-usa/'>http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/89250-how-big-is-westeros-compared-to-the-usa/</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.quora.com/How-big-is-Westeros-compared-to-our-world'>https://www.quora.com/How-big-is-Westeros-compared-to-our-world</a></p>

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  • MN5M Offline
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    <p>Great.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Next question, how long is a parsec ? ( should probably refer that to the Star Wars thread )  </p>

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    <p>I guess the other thing is, we don't often know how much time has passed between episodes, scenes or when a player leaves for say Winterfell before they arrive at Winterfell, just that they left last episode, and now they arrive.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I mean how long was Dany away when she met up with the Dothraki hordes, hung out, killed their leader, and returned to save the day, you'd have to say min of 3 months, possibly a year?</p>

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    <p>I guess the other thing is, we don't often know how much time has passed between episodes, scenes or when a player leaves for say Winterfell before they arrive at Winterfell, just that they left last episode, and now they arrive.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I mean how long was Dany away when she met up with the Dothraki hordes, hung out, killed their leader, and returned to save the day, you'd have to say min of 3 months, possibly a year?</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Must be a year, she flew there at the end of season 5...</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="590343" data-time="1466548502">
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    <p>She is a few hard years from this... and she will be boring an tell bad jokes.</p>
    <p>[spoiler] </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><img src="http://h7.alamy.com/comp/D24WWX/old-woman-with-white-hair-new-ireland-island-kapleman-village-papua-D24WWX.jpg" alt="old-woman-with-white-hair-new-ireland-is"></p>
    <p>[/spoiler]</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Still a damn site better than where Yara is headed after a few hard years at sea. </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><img src="http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/list/a8cae6adb6d8c57c0dbbfd7a2d9457f5c0a6a828.jpg" alt="a8cae6adb6d8c57c0dbbfd7a2d9457f5c0a6a828"></p>

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