All Blacks v Argentina II
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will Argentina be competitive against S Africa? Their forwards look winded.
Pts now 10 NZ and all rest are on 9..@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
will Argentina be competitive against S Africa? Their forwards look winded.
Pts now 10 NZ and all rest are on 9..We got the close RC we all really want haven't we?
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@Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Bones Jordan's a fullback, Jordie's a fullback - and neither of them are a patch on Reece on the wing.
We just need to make a decision instead of trying to squeeze them both onto the field.Jordie to 12, easy. He can at least hit the line hard, and rieko and him seen to operate very well together
Hell yeah, great idea. Just when the midfield is starting to gel and is play well, let's break it up and start all over again with a player who has never played a test at 12. Geezus.
@Stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Bones Jordan's a fullback, Jordie's a fullback - and neither of them are a patch on Reece on the wing.
We just need to make a decision instead of trying to squeeze them both onto the field.Jordie to 12, easy. He can at least hit the line hard, and rieko and him seen to operate very well together
Hell yeah, great idea. Just when the midfield is starting to gel and is play well, let's break it up and start all over again with a player who has never played a test at 12. Geezus.
I can see the reasoning behind moving Jordie to 12, he certainly has the attributes to go well there. But Foster has already said he sees Jordie as a 15, and there's not really a compelling body of evidence to make him change his mind - Jordie was only OK for the Canes at 12, he didn't really stand out. So the Jordie to 12 brigade will be waiting a long time for that to happen.
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I saw that at the time. Funny but awkward.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
I saw that at the time. Funny but awkward.
Jason Ryan might be a future PM. Working on the three way handshake but hasn’t quite got the timing right.
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Lomax has certainly made the most if his chances. Be interesting if he retains his starting spot . Big step up from his super rugby form.
@Winger said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Lomax has certainly made the most if his chances. Be interesting if he retains his starting spot . Big step up from his super rugby form.
I think he does. We finally have the mobility, energy and strength we are searching for.
Sami also performs better with Lomax and DeGroot. Doesn't have to do their jobs as well.
May not be perfect but is what we need.On a different note I think Sami T has to be right up there in worlds best hooker contention. Was certainly better than Marx was last night.
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@Winger said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Lomax has certainly made the most if his chances. Be interesting if he retains his starting spot . Big step up from his super rugby form.
I think he does. We finally have the mobility, energy and strength we are searching for.
Sami also performs better with Lomax and DeGroot. Doesn't have to do their jobs as well.
May not be perfect but is what we need.On a different note I think Sami T has to be right up there in worlds best hooker contention. Was certainly better than Marx was last night.
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Winger said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Lomax has certainly made the most if his chances. Be interesting if he retains his starting spot . Big step up from his super rugby form.
I think he does. We finally have the mobility, energy and strength we are searching for.
Sami also performs better with Lomax and DeGroot. Doesn't have to do their jobs as well.
May not be perfect but is what we need.On a different note I think Sami T has to be right up there in worlds best hooker contention. Was certainly better than Marx was last night.
Totally, Marx is a turn over machine, and great hooker. But samisoni just goes forward. Attack, defence, he goes forward no matter what. It's awesome to watch
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@Stargazer cool. Well if you think a23 with the ability to win 3 games out of nine is good enough. Good on you. But I don't, what we have is not good enough. Selections, tactics, coaching, mental strength, micro skills, etc are all at a level of quarter final exits that's what we'll get if we stick with this. The fact this is the first time the same 15 had started 3 times in a row in the pro era shows how important using that risk continuity is. Not at all
@Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Stargazer cool. Well if you think a23 with the ability to win 3 games out of nine is good enough. Good on you. But I don't, what we have is not good enough. Selections, tactics, coaching, mental strength, micro skills, etc are all at a level of quarter final exits that's what we'll get if we stick with this. The fact this is the first time the same 15 had started 3 times in a row in the pro era shows how important using that risk continuity is. Not at all
Next game will be something very close to the same 23 - might be a couple of changes on the bench depending on what they might want different for the Australians - and Newell is still very green, wouldn't surprise me to see him make way - for someone, not sure who.
The three-times stat probably reflects partially how often people get injured in the pro-era, but also the luxury we've had to tinker and give people a run. But, this is a unique (for us) situation and not the time for tinkering. Keep building confidence, hopefully get to "won 3 of the last 4", lock up the Bledisloe, and then maybe there's a chance to make a change or two for Eden Park.
On the match - that was really good given the conditions. Certainly the best performance this year, one of the best of the past two.
Not sure we're quite in the box seat for TRC but we've got our noses in front and destiny in our own hands. Winning that would be quite good at this point!
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@Winger said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Lomax has certainly made the most if his chances. Be interesting if he retains his starting spot . Big step up from his super rugby form.
I think he does. We finally have the mobility, energy and strength we are searching for.
Sami also performs better with Lomax and DeGroot. Doesn't have to do their jobs as well.
May not be perfect but is what we need.On a different note I think Sami T has to be right up there in worlds best hooker contention. Was certainly better than Marx was last night.
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Winger said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Lomax has certainly made the most if his chances. Be interesting if he retains his starting spot . Big step up from his super rugby form.
I think he does. We finally have the mobility, energy and strength we are searching for.
Sami also performs better with Lomax and DeGroot. Doesn't have to do their jobs as well.
May not be perfect but is what we need.On a different note I think Sami T has to be right up there in worlds best hooker contention. Was certainly better than Marx was last night.
Front row is out of my area of expertise, but they seem to have stumbled on something here ,
Do they play this front row all the way through to the wc now ?
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Winger said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Lomax has certainly made the most if his chances. Be interesting if he retains his starting spot . Big step up from his super rugby form.
I think he does. We finally have the mobility, energy and strength we are searching for.
Sami also performs better with Lomax and DeGroot. Doesn't have to do their jobs as well.
May not be perfect but is what we need.On a different note I think Sami T has to be right up there in worlds best hooker contention. Was certainly better than Marx was last night.
Front row is out of my area of expertise, but they seem to have stumbled on something here ,
Do they play this front row all the way through to the wc now ?
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Winger said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Lomax has certainly made the most if his chances. Be interesting if he retains his starting spot . Big step up from his super rugby form.
I think he does. We finally have the mobility, energy and strength we are searching for.
Sami also performs better with Lomax and DeGroot. Doesn't have to do their jobs as well.
May not be perfect but is what we need.On a different note I think Sami T has to be right up there in worlds best hooker contention. Was certainly better than Marx was last night.
**Front row is out of my area of expertise, but they seem to have stumbled on something here ,
Do they play this front row all the way through to the wc now**
Rests versus Japan etc, but YES
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Foster Hinted at some new players to be selected we may see some changes for the EOYT.
I don’t see any stand outs outside the squad yet
Some young guns coming through but vastly inexperienced.Maybe a couple of projects will be selected.
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Foster Hinted at some new players to be selected we may see some changes for the EOYT.
I don’t see any stand outs outside the squad yet
Some young guns coming through but vastly inexperienced.Maybe a couple of projects will be selected.
@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
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@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
@Paekakboyz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
Geez I hope not PUJ, I a Canes man, but hve yet to see the attraction of him. He is reasonably good super player at best I think anyway.
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@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
@Paekakboyz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
At this stage Morgan looks like the same type of 10 as BB and RM, except inexperienced and not as good.
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How good
Gorgeous sunny day in the tropics. I'm laying in the sun by the pool. I got spoiled for fathers day. I had a breakfast beer.
And last night the ABs were fucking awesome. Forwards wrecked the other teams shit, backs took full toll.
Life is pretty good at times aye?
