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    Assuming he qualiified NH Autumn of 2004.
    He played 21 tests before then, including 2003 RWC

    Being Italy, they didn't win many anyway. Won 7 of the 21 tests he played in while potentially un-qualified for..

    Most serious would be the RWC qualifiers for 2003 RWC. v Romania and Spain. But no team got eliminated from that tournament group, even last place (Spain) got another chance (Through European repechage v Russia, then an inter-continental repechage v USA where they were finally eliminated).

    Plus the RWC pool matches. But only top 8 qualified for next tournament, not top 12 like is currently.

    So, no major material impact. Just bad look amateurishness. Which isn't a surprise.

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      Invite Georgia to the top table for a season. Win win.

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        Also. It appears he hasn't (voluntarily) admitted that at all, He has accidentally revealed it in an interview where he said his "Grandpa Castro was born in Argentina, his name was José María. The one who was Italian was my great-grandfather, Ángel, who was born in Sicily, in Franco Forte”.

        A bit of a gotcha from Dan Leo Edit. from Paul Tait (The Argentinian journalist with the Anglo name), then picked up by Leo.

        Could have maternal qualification of course, but ... the wording and context makes it sound unlikely.
        But would be quite funny if he did. Apparently it has been reported previously his grandmother was Italian born, so may just have been a riff on his paternic name, badly interpreted. But Tait is native Spanish speaker ...

        http://www.rugbychampagneweb.com/Noticia/martin-castrogiovanni-el-rugbier-que-dejo-parana-para-conquistar-el-corazon-de-i_10239

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          That won't be more than a fine, if any sanction at all. Too long ago to have the impact of Grannygate.

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          • RapidoR Rapido

            Assuming he qualiified NH Autumn of 2004.
            He played 21 tests before then, including 2003 RWC

            Being Italy, they didn't win many anyway. Won 7 of the 21 tests he played in while potentially un-qualified for..

            Most serious would be the RWC qualifiers for 2003 RWC. v Romania and Spain. But no team got eliminated from that tournament group, even last place (Spain) got another chance (Through European repechage v Russia, then an inter-continental repechage v USA where they were finally eliminated).

            Plus the RWC pool matches. But only top 8 qualified for next tournament, not top 12 like is currently.

            So, no major material impact. Just bad look amateurishness. Which isn't a surprise.

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            @Rapido said in NH International Rugby:

            Assuming he qualiified NH Autumn of 2004.
            He played 21 tests before then, including 2003 RWC

            Being Italy, they didn't win many anyway. Won 7 of the 21 tests he played in while potentially un-qualified for..

            Most serious would be the RWC qualifiers for 2003 RWC. v Romania and Spain. But no team got eliminated from that tournament group, even last place (Spain) got another chance (Through European repechage v Russia, then an inter-continental repechage v USA where they were finally eliminated).

            Plus the RWC pool matches. But only top 8 qualified for next tournament, not top 12 like is currently.

            So, no major material impact. Just bad look amateurishness. Which isn't a surprise.

            57b540cf-f5f5-4f80-996c-6acae3297fe6-image.png

            I went to that Italy/Tonga game in Canberra. Tonga were robbed both on field and off!

            Was a fun crowd. All the Aussie/Italians vs what seemed like every Tongan in coooee of the game.

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            • MajorPomM Away
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              Blimey. This is a terrible look for one of my fave NH players of that era.

              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62469709

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              • MajorPomM MajorPom

                Blimey. This is a terrible look for one of my fave NH players of that era.

                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62469709

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                @MajorRage

                I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.

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                  @MajorRage

                  I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.

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                  @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                  @MajorRage

                  I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.

                  Problem for Alfie is that he has moved into the celebrity life now, so this type of accusation won't be abnormal. I hope for his sake that it is a baseless accusation as he could be in deep trouble if not.

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                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/france-centre-virimi-vakatawa-announces-shock-retirement/

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                      @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                      @MajorRage

                      I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.

                      Problem for Alfie is that he has moved into the celebrity life now, so this type of accusation won't be abnormal. I hope for his sake that it is a baseless accusation as he could be in deep trouble if not.

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                      @stodders said in NH International Rugby:

                      @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                      @MajorRage

                      I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.

                      Problem for Alfie is that he has moved into the celebrity life now, so this type of accusation won't be abnormal. I hope for his sake that it is a baseless accusation as he could be in deep trouble if not.

                      Alfie’s defence team have provided their replies to the accusations and from what I’ve seen it is not a good look from Alfie. Did not tell his partner of his HIV status as A) He didn’t think he could pass it on and B )his partner was promiscuous and had a fatalistic attitude to catching HIV.

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                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/france-centre-virimi-vakatawa-announces-shock-retirement/

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                        @Bones Good player. Sad to read that, but glad it's near the end of his career and not at the beginning.

                        I wonder whether he'll still be able/willing to take up a contract outside France? I obviously don't know what the medical issue is that lead to this decision from the French Union's medical committee, and whether he really should retire, but other countries may not be so strict?

                        And I also remember when they took a similar decision forbidding Sona Taumalolo to continue playing in France. He appealed and was allowed to play again, because they got it wrong.

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                          https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/virimi-vakatawa-reveals-heart-condition-24941951

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                          • CatograndeC Catogrande

                            @stodders said in NH International Rugby:

                            @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                            @MajorRage

                            I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.

                            Problem for Alfie is that he has moved into the celebrity life now, so this type of accusation won't be abnormal. I hope for his sake that it is a baseless accusation as he could be in deep trouble if not.

                            Alfie’s defence team have provided their replies to the accusations and from what I’ve seen it is not a good look from Alfie. Did not tell his partner of his HIV status as A) He didn’t think he could pass it on and B )his partner was promiscuous and had a fatalistic attitude to catching HIV.

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                            @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                            @stodders said in NH International Rugby:

                            @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                            @MajorRage

                            I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.

                            Problem for Alfie is that he has moved into the celebrity life now, so this type of accusation won't be abnormal. I hope for his sake that it is a baseless accusation as he could be in deep trouble if not.

                            Alfie’s defence team have provided their replies to the accusations and from what I’ve seen it is not a good look from Alfie. Did not tell his partner of his HIV status as A) He didn’t think he could pass it on and B )his partner was promiscuous and had a fatalistic attitude to catching HIV.

                            Yeah, I read this too. Really poor attitude from Alfie. I've noticed that he's gone for the victim card too by saying that he's had to face some horrible comments from people. If that's the worst he gets, he should feel lucky. I don't expect to see him back on the TV anytime soon.

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                            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                              https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/virimi-vakatawa-reveals-heart-condition-24941951

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                              @Daffy-Jaffy said in NH International Rugby:

                              https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/virimi-vakatawa-reveals-heart-condition-24941951

                              Curious. When did they first identify the issue? Some reports say that they knew he had the issue for some time and the club and FFR doctors were monitoring it.

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                                Liam Williams gets crushing news as year wiped out by significant injury.
                                Pity he won't face the AB's, he is quality and good to watch.

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                                  Fuck

                                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/62939634

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                                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                    Fuck

                                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/62939634

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                                    @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                                    Fuck

                                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/62939634

                                    He reminds me of a Bumblebee in that when you look at a Bee, in theory it can't fly but by the fuck it actually flies very well. When you look at Williams and think I can drive a bus through those bandy legs, he can't possibly run and then...

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                                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                      @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                                      Fuck

                                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/62939634

                                      He reminds me of a Bumblebee in that when you look at a Bee, in theory it can't fly but by the fuck it actually flies very well. When you look at Williams and think I can drive a bus through those bandy legs, he can't possibly run and then...

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                                      @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                                      @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                                      Fuck

                                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/62939634

                                      He reminds me of a Bumblebee in that when you look at a Bee, in theory it can't fly but by the fuck it actually flies very well. When you look at Williams and think I can drive a bus through those bandy legs, he can't possibly run and then...

                                      He's the IRL version of this character:

                                      He's wiry

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                                        @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                                        @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                                        Fuck

                                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/62939634

                                        He reminds me of a Bumblebee in that when you look at a Bee, in theory it can't fly but by the fuck it actually flies very well. When you look at Williams and think I can drive a bus through those bandy legs, he can't possibly run and then...

                                        He's the IRL version of this character:

                                        He's wiry

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                                        @Frye said in NH International Rugby:

                                        @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                                        @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                                        Fuck

                                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/62939634

                                        He reminds me of a Bumblebee in that when you look at a Bee, in theory it can't fly but by the fuck it actually flies very well. When you look at Williams and think I can drive a bus through those bandy legs, he can't possibly run and then...

                                        He's the IRL version of this character:

                                        He's wiry

                                        Great film

                                        Going to have to revisit 🙂

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                                          Margin_Walker
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                                          Initial England training squad for the upcoming games. The likes of Lawes and Itoje are out with short term stuff as far as I'm aware. Tuilagi is fit, but no doubt wont be by the time the games start.

                                          FORWARDS

                                          Ollie Chessum (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps)
                                          Alex Coles (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
                                          Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 37 caps)
                                          Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 41 caps)
                                          Ellis Genge (Bristol Bears, 39 caps)
                                          Jamie George (Saracens, 69 caps)
                                          Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps)
                                          Jonny Hill (Sale Sharks, 15 caps)
                                          Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 14 caps)
                                          Tom Pearson (London Irish, uncapped)
                                          David Ribbans (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
                                          Bevan Rodd (Sale Sharks, 2 caps)
                                          Patrick Schickerling (Exeter Chiefs, uncapped)
                                          Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, 14 caps)
                                          Will Stuart (Bath Rugby, 23 caps)
                                          Hugh Tizard (Saracens, uncapped)
                                          Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 64 caps)
                                          Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 70 caps)
                                          Jack Walker (Harlequins, uncapped)
                                          Jack Willis (Wasps, 4 caps)

                                          BACKS

                                          Henry Arundell (London Irish, 3 caps)
                                          Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 12 caps)
                                          Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
                                          Owen Farrell (Saracens, 97 caps)
                                          Tommy Freeman (Northampton Saints, 2 caps)
                                          George Furbank (Northampton Saints, 6 caps)
                                          Will Joseph (London Irish, 1 cap)
                                          Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 69 caps)
                                          Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints, 1 cap)
                                          Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 42 caps)
                                          Guy Porter (Leicester Tigers, 2 caps)
                                          Marcus Smith (Harlequins, 13 caps)
                                          Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers, 13 caps)
                                          Manu Tuilagi (Sale Sharks, 46 caps)
                                          Jack van Poortvliet (Leicester Tigers, 3 caps)
                                          Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 117 caps)

                                          Unavailable for selection due to injury: Alfie Barbeary, Nic Dolly, Alex Dombrandt, Charlie Ewels, George Ford, Sam Jeffries, Maro Itoje, Nick Isiekwe, Courtney Lawes, Sam Underhill, Anthony Watson.

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