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Assuming he qualiified NH Autumn of 2004.
He played 21 tests before then, including 2003 RWCBeing Italy, they didn't win many anyway. Won 7 of the 21 tests he played in while potentially un-qualified for..
Most serious would be the RWC qualifiers for 2003 RWC. v Romania and Spain. But no team got eliminated from that tournament group, even last place (Spain) got another chance (Through European repechage v Russia, then an inter-continental repechage v USA where they were finally eliminated).
Plus the RWC pool matches. But only top 8 qualified for next tournament, not top 12 like is currently.
So, no major material impact. Just bad look amateurishness. Which isn't a surprise.
@Rapido said in NH International Rugby:
Assuming he qualiified NH Autumn of 2004.
He played 21 tests before then, including 2003 RWCBeing Italy, they didn't win many anyway. Won 7 of the 21 tests he played in while potentially un-qualified for..
Most serious would be the RWC qualifiers for 2003 RWC. v Romania and Spain. But no team got eliminated from that tournament group, even last place (Spain) got another chance (Through European repechage v Russia, then an inter-continental repechage v USA where they were finally eliminated).
Plus the RWC pool matches. But only top 8 qualified for next tournament, not top 12 like is currently.
So, no major material impact. Just bad look amateurishness. Which isn't a surprise.
I went to that Italy/Tonga game in Canberra. Tonga were robbed both on field and off!
Was a fun crowd. All the Aussie/Italians vs what seemed like every Tongan in coooee of the game.
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Blimey. This is a terrible look for one of my fave NH players of that era.
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Blimey. This is a terrible look for one of my fave NH players of that era.
@MajorRage
I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.
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@MajorRage
I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@MajorRage
I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.
Problem for Alfie is that he has moved into the celebrity life now, so this type of accusation won't be abnormal. I hope for his sake that it is a baseless accusation as he could be in deep trouble if not.
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@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@MajorRage
I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.
Problem for Alfie is that he has moved into the celebrity life now, so this type of accusation won't be abnormal. I hope for his sake that it is a baseless accusation as he could be in deep trouble if not.
@stodders said in NH International Rugby:
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@MajorRage
I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.
Problem for Alfie is that he has moved into the celebrity life now, so this type of accusation won't be abnormal. I hope for his sake that it is a baseless accusation as he could be in deep trouble if not.
Alfie’s defence team have provided their replies to the accusations and from what I’ve seen it is not a good look from Alfie. Did not tell his partner of his HIV status as A) He didn’t think he could pass it on and B )his partner was promiscuous and had a fatalistic attitude to catching HIV.
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@Bones Good player. Sad to read that, but glad it's near the end of his career and not at the beginning.
I wonder whether he'll still be able/willing to take up a contract outside France? I obviously don't know what the medical issue is that lead to this decision from the French Union's medical committee, and whether he really should retire, but other countries may not be so strict?
And I also remember when they took a similar decision forbidding Sona Taumalolo to continue playing in France. He appealed and was allowed to play again, because they got it wrong.
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@stodders said in NH International Rugby:
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@MajorRage
I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.
Problem for Alfie is that he has moved into the celebrity life now, so this type of accusation won't be abnormal. I hope for his sake that it is a baseless accusation as he could be in deep trouble if not.
Alfie’s defence team have provided their replies to the accusations and from what I’ve seen it is not a good look from Alfie. Did not tell his partner of his HIV status as A) He didn’t think he could pass it on and B )his partner was promiscuous and had a fatalistic attitude to catching HIV.
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@stodders said in NH International Rugby:
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@MajorRage
I’ll admit that news surprised me. Alfie always seemed to me to be a pretty straightforward sort of guy. Of course, worth noting that this is just an accusation currently.
Problem for Alfie is that he has moved into the celebrity life now, so this type of accusation won't be abnormal. I hope for his sake that it is a baseless accusation as he could be in deep trouble if not.
Alfie’s defence team have provided their replies to the accusations and from what I’ve seen it is not a good look from Alfie. Did not tell his partner of his HIV status as A) He didn’t think he could pass it on and B )his partner was promiscuous and had a fatalistic attitude to catching HIV.
Yeah, I read this too. Really poor attitude from Alfie. I've noticed that he's gone for the victim card too by saying that he's had to face some horrible comments from people. If that's the worst he gets, he should feel lucky. I don't expect to see him back on the TV anytime soon.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in NH International Rugby:
Curious. When did they first identify the issue? Some reports say that they knew he had the issue for some time and the club and FFR doctors were monitoring it.
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Liam Williams gets crushing news as year wiped out by significant injury.
Pity he won't face the AB's, he is quality and good to watch.
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@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
Fuck
He reminds me of a Bumblebee in that when you look at a Bee, in theory it can't fly but by the fuck it actually flies very well. When you look at Williams and think I can drive a bus through those bandy legs, he can't possibly run and then...
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@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
Fuck
He reminds me of a Bumblebee in that when you look at a Bee, in theory it can't fly but by the fuck it actually flies very well. When you look at Williams and think I can drive a bus through those bandy legs, he can't possibly run and then...
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
Fuck
He reminds me of a Bumblebee in that when you look at a Bee, in theory it can't fly but by the fuck it actually flies very well. When you look at Williams and think I can drive a bus through those bandy legs, he can't possibly run and then...
He's the IRL version of this character:
He's wiry
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@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
Fuck
He reminds me of a Bumblebee in that when you look at a Bee, in theory it can't fly but by the fuck it actually flies very well. When you look at Williams and think I can drive a bus through those bandy legs, he can't possibly run and then...
He's the IRL version of this character:
He's wiry
@Frye said in NH International Rugby:
@Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
Fuck
He reminds me of a Bumblebee in that when you look at a Bee, in theory it can't fly but by the fuck it actually flies very well. When you look at Williams and think I can drive a bus through those bandy legs, he can't possibly run and then...
He's the IRL version of this character:
He's wiry
Great film
Going to have to revisit
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Initial England training squad for the upcoming games. The likes of Lawes and Itoje are out with short term stuff as far as I'm aware. Tuilagi is fit, but no doubt wont be by the time the games start.
FORWARDS
Ollie Chessum (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps)
Alex Coles (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 37 caps)
Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 41 caps)
Ellis Genge (Bristol Bears, 39 caps)
Jamie George (Saracens, 69 caps)
Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers, 5 caps)
Jonny Hill (Sale Sharks, 15 caps)
Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 14 caps)
Tom Pearson (London Irish, uncapped)
David Ribbans (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Bevan Rodd (Sale Sharks, 2 caps)
Patrick Schickerling (Exeter Chiefs, uncapped)
Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, 14 caps)
Will Stuart (Bath Rugby, 23 caps)
Hugh Tizard (Saracens, uncapped)
Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 64 caps)
Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 70 caps)
Jack Walker (Harlequins, uncapped)
Jack Willis (Wasps, 4 caps)BACKS
Henry Arundell (London Irish, 3 caps)
Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 12 caps)
Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Owen Farrell (Saracens, 97 caps)
Tommy Freeman (Northampton Saints, 2 caps)
George Furbank (Northampton Saints, 6 caps)
Will Joseph (London Irish, 1 cap)
Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 69 caps)
Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints, 1 cap)
Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 42 caps)
Guy Porter (Leicester Tigers, 2 caps)
Marcus Smith (Harlequins, 13 caps)
Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers, 13 caps)
Manu Tuilagi (Sale Sharks, 46 caps)
Jack van Poortvliet (Leicester Tigers, 3 caps)
Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 117 caps)Unavailable for selection due to injury: Alfie Barbeary, Nic Dolly, Alex Dombrandt, Charlie Ewels, George Ford, Sam Jeffries, Maro Itoje, Nick Isiekwe, Courtney Lawes, Sam Underhill, Anthony Watson.
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Emerging Ireland play in the Cheetahs Challenge and play today against CC finalist Griquas.
Teams
Griquas – 15 Malcolm Jaer, 14 Raegan Oranje, 13 Jay-Cee Nel, 12 Tertius Kruger, 11 Luther Obi, 10 Eddie Fouché, 9 Bobby Alexander, 8 Janco Venter, 7 Werner Gouws, 6 Niel Otto, 5 Albert Liebenberg, 4 Johan Retief, 3 Justin Forwood, 2 Simon Westraadt, 1 Kudzwai Dube.Replacements – 16 Janco Uys, 17 Melusi Mthabela, 18 Janu Botha, 19 Godfrey Muzanargwo, 20 Michael Amiras, 21 Johan Mulder, 22 George Whitehead, 23 Ashlon Davids, 24 Francois Staples, 25 Thabo Ndimande, 26 Vaughen Isaacs.
Emerging Ireland v Windhoek Draught Griquas:
Toyota Stadium, Bloemfontein, Friday 30th September, 2022, KO 12.45pm (Irish time)15. Shane Daly (Munster/Cork Constitution)
14. Calvin Nash (Munster/Young Munster)
13. Jamie Osbourne (Leinster/Naas)
12. Stewart Moore (Ulster/Malone)
11. Robert Baloucoune (Ulster/Enniskillen)
10. Jack Crowley (Munster/Cork Constitution)
9. Nathan Doak (Ulster/Banbridge)1. Josh Wycherley (Munster/Young Munster)
2. Tom Stewart (Ulster/Ballynahinch)
3. Thomas Clarkson (Leinster/Dublin University)
4. Joe McCarthy (Leinster/Dublin University)
5. Tom Ahern (Munster/Shannon)
6. David McCann (Ulster/Banbridge)
7. Scott Penny (Leinster/UCD)
8. Max Deegan (Leinster/Lansdowne) CaptainReplacements
16. Diarmuid Barron (Munster/Garryowen)
17. Michael Milne (Leinster/UCD)
18. Roman Salanoa (Munster/Shannon)
19. Brian Deeny (Leinster/Clontarf)
20. John Hodnett (Munster/UCC)
21. Michael McDonald (Ulster)
22. Jake Flannery (Ulster/Ballynahinch)
23. Antoine Frisch (Munster)Link:
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Toyota Challenge 2022
Friday 30 September 2022
Windhoek Draught Griquas vs Emerging Ireland
KO 12:45 (UK/Irish time)
Wednesday 5 October 2022
Airlink Pumas vs Emerging Ireland
KO 16:00 (UK/Irish time)
Sunday 9 October 2022
Toyota Cheetahs vs Emerging Ireland
KO 12:00 (UK/Irish time)
Cheetahs, Griquas and Pumas are the three Currie Cup Premier League teams not playing in the URC.
Griquas and Pumas played on the CC final, Cheetahs knock out in the semi final by Pumas.
Emerging Ireland is basically the 6 Nations u20 2022 champion side.
They use the tour to build depth for the WC.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in NH International Rugby:
Curious. When did they first identify the issue? Some reports say that they knew he had the issue for some time and the club and FFR doctors were monitoring it.
@stodders from another article:
“He must stop his career in France for cardiological reasons. A cardiac anomaly had been detected before the 2019 World Cup in Japan. This anomaly, which is not linked to rugby, has been monitored but it is an evolving pathology. The risk has become too great.”
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Eddie keeping it real. Some fun games in the prem, but defence wins tests (McLeod
)https://www.rugbypass.com/news/eddie-jones-explicit-warning-to-players-eyeing-england-call-ups/
