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@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@Crucial said in TV Serieseseses:
Great to see @Kiwiwomble and @Machpants outing themselves as neckbeards.
pretty sure i was having a go an neckbeards
@Machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@NTA some people need to realise how much of what they hold dear is just their own head cannon, shit they inferred
from what i understand the source material is a few chapters from the Silmarillion...the show runners are going to have added their own shit....the difference being they paid for the rights to do so rather than sitting in their basement....i say this having been through a pretty major Tolkien phase that may have included time on a Tolkien forum.....
Nah this series only has the rights to the appendices of lotr, that's 250 million US for the appendices. Tolkien is a God!
Anyway there's a fuck load more head canon required to full in the gaps in the story to make anything coherent from just appendices!
just the appendices? wow, really testing me here but the Silmarillion and the appendices cover a bit of the same turf?
Sure there is cross over, but there is not much in the appendices about this age. There's a lot of stuff that is irrelevant. So yeah, some very bare bones that can have black dwarves and Harfoots as a race rather than a type of hobbit
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@Tim said in TV Serieseseses:
The first episode of Black Bird has some bangers on the soundtrack - Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, and Morphine.
I'm halfway through Yellowjackets - and quite enjoying the soundtrack on that too... Portishead, Nirvana, Garbage, Hole, Smashing Pumpkins, Dinosaur Jr, Janes Addiction - pretty much taking every good, (and bad,) song from 1996 to match the time-setting.
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@taniwharugby said in TV Serieseseses:
The Resort (think I had seen reviews in here)
So so, some pretty good stuff, couple of slow eps and bit of a lame ending.
Same feeling here
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@Kruse I wasn't taken by that series...I havent checked if a 2nd session had been lined up, but you do not find out alot by end of s1
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@Machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@Crucial said in TV Serieseseses:
Great to see @Kiwiwomble and @Machpants outing themselves as neckbeards.
pretty sure i was having a go an neckbeards
@Machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@NTA some people need to realise how much of what they hold dear is just their own head cannon, shit they inferred
from what i understand the source material is a few chapters from the Silmarillion...the show runners are going to have added their own shit....the difference being they paid for the rights to do so rather than sitting in their basement....i say this having been through a pretty major Tolkien phase that may have included time on a Tolkien forum.....
Nah this series only has the rights to the appendices of lotr, that's 250 million US for the appendices. Tolkien is a God!
Anyway there's a fuck load more head canon required to full in the gaps in the story to make anything coherent from just appendices!
just the appendices? wow, really testing me here but the Silmarillion and the appendices cover a bit of the same turf?
Sure there is cross over, but there is not much in the appendices about this age. There's a lot of stuff that is irrelevant. So yeah, some very bare bones that can have black dwarves and Harfoots as a race rather than a type of hobbit
and thats possibly where people will get annoyed, if they only have the rights to the bare bones stuff then they'll make up a lot of stuff which might not align with the Silmarillion
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@Machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
@mariner4life said in TV Serieseseses:
@NTA said in TV Serieseseses:
LOTR: The Rings Of Power
Two episodes released on Prime Video so far. I'm enjoying it for the scenery. The production values are good.
Importantly, out in the web there are a bunch of neckbeards going off about how it doesn't agree with anything Tolkein did/wrote etc.
So that's also a plus.
I'll keep on with it.
hardcore source material fans are the fucking worst (see any Star Wars thread anywhere)
i didn't mind the start. Visually it's very cool.
I'm a hardcore source material person, but still enjoying RoP. The most off putting thing it's how the main protagonist, Galadriel, is so fucking unlikeable. Also her fight with the snow troll was so much posing, rather than fighting, it was pathetic. Like anime or some form of dance off
This scene right?
I'm not too invested in JRRR but I believe he and his son were absolutely disdainful about adaptations and messing with the world he had so painstakingly created. Having said that Tom Bombadill was farking crap and I salute PJ for not including that shit. But yeah, entertaining enough but Galadriel is unfortunately the LOTR version of Rey Skywalker.
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@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@Machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@Crucial said in TV Serieseseses:
Great to see @Kiwiwomble and @Machpants outing themselves as neckbeards.
pretty sure i was having a go an neckbeards
@Machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@NTA some people need to realise how much of what they hold dear is just their own head cannon, shit they inferred
from what i understand the source material is a few chapters from the Silmarillion...the show runners are going to have added their own shit....the difference being they paid for the rights to do so rather than sitting in their basement....i say this having been through a pretty major Tolkien phase that may have included time on a Tolkien forum.....
Nah this series only has the rights to the appendices of lotr, that's 250 million US for the appendices. Tolkien is a God!
Anyway there's a fuck load more head canon required to full in the gaps in the story to make anything coherent from just appendices!
just the appendices? wow, really testing me here but the Silmarillion and the appendices cover a bit of the same turf?
Sure there is cross over, but there is not much in the appendices about this age. There's a lot of stuff that is irrelevant. So yeah, some very bare bones that can have black dwarves and Harfoots as a race rather than a type of hobbit
and thats possibly where people will get annoyed, if they only have the rights to the bare bones stuff then they'll make up a lot of stuff which might not align with the Silmarillion
Yeah, it would have been cool if they ignored the 2nd Age and just focussed on the lands to the South. That would have given them a blank canvas within Tolkiens world and they could have avoided farking with the lore.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel thats the thing though...if you ignore the lore then you just have a pretty generic "fantasy" setting, elves and dwarves, wizards and trolls etc
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@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@Rancid-Schnitzel thats the thing though...if you ignore the lore then you just have a pretty generic "fantasy" setting, elves and dwarves, wizards and trolls etc
Are you suggesting they would have to come up with something original
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@Rancid-Schnitzel its my argument for several series, even things like bond....if the plot was good then you dont need the name, its why i think the Joker was so good, they could have just called the movie something else and it would just be a great film of a dude going insane
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@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@Rancid-Schnitzel its my argument for several series, even things like bond....if the plot was good then you dont need the name, its why i think the Joker was so good, they could have just called the movie something else and it would just be a great film of a dude going insane
TBH, I don't think that The Joker would have been half as successful financially if it wasn't a Joker film. IIRC the director even spoke about that in interviews and the fact that it's easier to secure funding for a Joker movie.
Not that I disagree with your point about making movies with good plots that aren't already connected to other IP.
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@Nepia yeah, not saying there weren't lots of people that went and saw it BECAUSE it was the joker and as you say, much easier to get the funding, and it just didnt rely on the DC comic aspect, bruce wayne is just a little cameo, you can tell the same story is you changed the character names
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For All Mankind
Bloody good series, again!
A few nice twists in there as well!
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One being, did the Russians orchestrate the bomb to cover up Margo leaving, or was it just a lucky coincidence.The Korean dude on Mars was a cool twist too!
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@taniwharugby said in TV Serieseseses:
For All Mankind
Bloody good series, again!
A few nice twists in there as well!
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One being, did the Russians orchestrate the bomb to cover up Margo leaving, or was it just a lucky coincidence.The Korean dude on Mars was a cool twist too!
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Yeah, it's one if the best series of the major streaming era for me. I'm glad Apple don't follow the Netflix model of mostly not giving series more than three seasons.
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I just assumed it was a coincidence as I think Margo would rather get caught than have people die just to get her out.
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@taniwharugby said in TV Serieseseses:
@Kruse I wasn't taken by that series...I havent checked if a 2nd session had been lined up, but you do not find out alot by end of s1
Shit... I'm well into it by now... I guess I can finish it off with properly lowered expectations of any sort of resolution.
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@NTA said in TV Serieseseses:
LOTR: The Rings Of Power
Two episodes released on Prime Video so far. I'm enjoying it for the scenery. The production values are good.
Importantly, out in the web there are a bunch of neckbeards going off about how it doesn't agree with anything Tolkein did/wrote etc.
So that's also a plus.
I'll keep on with it.
Neckbeards like your hero?
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Mike
One episode in and pretty interesting so far. Having read a fair bit on him I already knew he had a fucked up childhood ( well, that’s common knowledge ). Kinda torn so far as the main guy just isn’t quite consistently convincing enough as Tyson for me…….I guess loads of biopics have this issue but Iron Mike is someone I’ve seen on TV and been aware of for over 30 years……will stick with it though and see how it ends up !
