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@Machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@Crucial said in TV Serieseseses:
Great to see @Kiwiwomble and @Machpants outing themselves as neckbeards.
pretty sure i was having a go an neckbeards
@Machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@NTA some people need to realise how much of what they hold dear is just their own head cannon, shit they inferred
from what i understand the source material is a few chapters from the Silmarillion...the show runners are going to have added their own shit....the difference being they paid for the rights to do so rather than sitting in their basement....i say this having been through a pretty major Tolkien phase that may have included time on a Tolkien forum.....
Nah this series only has the rights to the appendices of lotr, that's 250 million US for the appendices. Tolkien is a God!
Anyway there's a fuck load more head canon required to full in the gaps in the story to make anything coherent from just appendices!
just the appendices? wow, really testing me here but the Silmarillion and the appendices cover a bit of the same turf?
Sure there is cross over, but there is not much in the appendices about this age. There's a lot of stuff that is irrelevant. So yeah, some very bare bones that can have black dwarves and Harfoots as a race rather than a type of hobbit
and thats possibly where people will get annoyed, if they only have the rights to the bare bones stuff then they'll make up a lot of stuff which might not align with the Silmarillion
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@Machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
@mariner4life said in TV Serieseseses:
@NTA said in TV Serieseseses:
LOTR: The Rings Of Power
Two episodes released on Prime Video so far. I'm enjoying it for the scenery. The production values are good.
Importantly, out in the web there are a bunch of neckbeards going off about how it doesn't agree with anything Tolkein did/wrote etc.
So that's also a plus.
I'll keep on with it.
hardcore source material fans are the fucking worst (see any Star Wars thread anywhere)
i didn't mind the start. Visually it's very cool.
I'm a hardcore source material person, but still enjoying RoP. The most off putting thing it's how the main protagonist, Galadriel, is so fucking unlikeable. Also her fight with the snow troll was so much posing, rather than fighting, it was pathetic. Like anime or some form of dance off
This scene right?
I'm not too invested in JRRR but I believe he and his son were absolutely disdainful about adaptations and messing with the world he had so painstakingly created. Having said that Tom Bombadill was farking crap and I salute PJ for not including that shit. But yeah, entertaining enough but Galadriel is unfortunately the LOTR version of Rey Skywalker.
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@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@Machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@Crucial said in TV Serieseseses:
Great to see @Kiwiwomble and @Machpants outing themselves as neckbeards.
pretty sure i was having a go an neckbeards
@Machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@NTA some people need to realise how much of what they hold dear is just their own head cannon, shit they inferred
from what i understand the source material is a few chapters from the Silmarillion...the show runners are going to have added their own shit....the difference being they paid for the rights to do so rather than sitting in their basement....i say this having been through a pretty major Tolkien phase that may have included time on a Tolkien forum.....
Nah this series only has the rights to the appendices of lotr, that's 250 million US for the appendices. Tolkien is a God!
Anyway there's a fuck load more head canon required to full in the gaps in the story to make anything coherent from just appendices!
just the appendices? wow, really testing me here but the Silmarillion and the appendices cover a bit of the same turf?
Sure there is cross over, but there is not much in the appendices about this age. There's a lot of stuff that is irrelevant. So yeah, some very bare bones that can have black dwarves and Harfoots as a race rather than a type of hobbit
and thats possibly where people will get annoyed, if they only have the rights to the bare bones stuff then they'll make up a lot of stuff which might not align with the Silmarillion
Yeah, it would have been cool if they ignored the 2nd Age and just focussed on the lands to the South. That would have given them a blank canvas within Tolkiens world and they could have avoided farking with the lore.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel thats the thing though...if you ignore the lore then you just have a pretty generic "fantasy" setting, elves and dwarves, wizards and trolls etc
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@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@Rancid-Schnitzel thats the thing though...if you ignore the lore then you just have a pretty generic "fantasy" setting, elves and dwarves, wizards and trolls etc
Are you suggesting they would have to come up with something original
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@Rancid-Schnitzel its my argument for several series, even things like bond....if the plot was good then you dont need the name, its why i think the Joker was so good, they could have just called the movie something else and it would just be a great film of a dude going insane
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@Kiwiwomble said in TV Serieseseses:
@Rancid-Schnitzel its my argument for several series, even things like bond....if the plot was good then you dont need the name, its why i think the Joker was so good, they could have just called the movie something else and it would just be a great film of a dude going insane
TBH, I don't think that The Joker would have been half as successful financially if it wasn't a Joker film. IIRC the director even spoke about that in interviews and the fact that it's easier to secure funding for a Joker movie.
Not that I disagree with your point about making movies with good plots that aren't already connected to other IP.
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@Nepia yeah, not saying there weren't lots of people that went and saw it BECAUSE it was the joker and as you say, much easier to get the funding, and it just didnt rely on the DC comic aspect, bruce wayne is just a little cameo, you can tell the same story is you changed the character names
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For All Mankind
Bloody good series, again!
A few nice twists in there as well!
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One being, did the Russians orchestrate the bomb to cover up Margo leaving, or was it just a lucky coincidence.The Korean dude on Mars was a cool twist too!
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@taniwharugby said in TV Serieseseses:
For All Mankind
Bloody good series, again!
A few nice twists in there as well!
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One being, did the Russians orchestrate the bomb to cover up Margo leaving, or was it just a lucky coincidence.The Korean dude on Mars was a cool twist too!
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Yeah, it's one if the best series of the major streaming era for me. I'm glad Apple don't follow the Netflix model of mostly not giving series more than three seasons.
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I just assumed it was a coincidence as I think Margo would rather get caught than have people die just to get her out.
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@taniwharugby said in TV Serieseseses:
@Kruse I wasn't taken by that series...I havent checked if a 2nd session had been lined up, but you do not find out alot by end of s1
Shit... I'm well into it by now... I guess I can finish it off with properly lowered expectations of any sort of resolution.
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@NTA said in TV Serieseseses:
LOTR: The Rings Of Power
Two episodes released on Prime Video so far. I'm enjoying it for the scenery. The production values are good.
Importantly, out in the web there are a bunch of neckbeards going off about how it doesn't agree with anything Tolkein did/wrote etc.
So that's also a plus.
I'll keep on with it.
Neckbeards like your hero?
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Mike
One episode in and pretty interesting so far. Having read a fair bit on him I already knew he had a fucked up childhood ( well, that’s common knowledge ). Kinda torn so far as the main guy just isn’t quite consistently convincing enough as Tyson for me…….I guess loads of biopics have this issue but Iron Mike is someone I’ve seen on TV and been aware of for over 30 years……will stick with it though and see how it ends up !
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@taniwharugby said in TV Serieseseses:
Finished The Old Man
Top show.
Great acting, sure as is the way in this genre, some of the shit is OTT, but hey, we dont live in that spook world, so who knows how super human they are
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I had picked early on that Emily / Angela would be Hamzads daughter, didnt pick that Angela was Chases daughter until it was obvious.
Some nice tie ins though, brothers, dad etc.
The fact The Old Man wasnt Dan Chase, haha!
With those other fellas that had Emily in the van, got taken out by a lone woman? Pretty well organised operation to have half a dozen shooters, knowing they would fail to then get that woman in the right spot to take out 2 highly trained operatives - that said, refer above haha
##endspoilerJust finished watching The Old Man. Another in the recent spate of shows that have a non finale finale. This must be the fourth show this year where I've waited for the new ep to come out and only discovered there wasn't a new one coming via google.
I genuinely thought that the actor playing young Chase would be Jeff Bridges real son so was surprised he was some random actor. Best match of young to old actor I've seen in a while.
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TBH, I could have done without the lady (whose name I've already forgotten) kidnapped/not kidnapped subplot, I think after a great first episode it nearly killed off the momentum.Like @taniwharugby I picked it early about Emily, to the point that I thought it was too obvious and that they wouldn't do it.
I thought the van shooter was the chick who travelled with Chase to take grab the Russians so she was an established bad ass. But it was silly how they both just sat there watching when they should have been on high alert. Especially the dude who noticed everything from the basement.
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Anyway, good show - I hope they make S2 quickly in case Bridges cancer returns.
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Yellowstone
I've watched two seasons and quite frankly the improbability of it all makes me hesitant to continue in the assumed (well founded by experience) belief that shows tend to get more ridiculous rather than less the longer they go.
Can anyone disabuse me of this notion?
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@antipodean you went 1 season further than I did.
