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    @Machpants said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @nzzp i have to admit im not sure how relevant that is, all NFL/NBL...hell, any america sports and any football players probably gets paid more than most rugby players, i dont see it as a money thing...theyre already going around the country, teams and agents are already doing deals, players are released early and given shots elsewhere...we're just talking about actually showing all that in the build up to a season to build some hype in a way other than jamming in 9's tournament that the best players didn't play in because they didn't want to get injured

    The key point, seven outside the money, is American teams don't develop their own players. They pick them from college. So every franchise would drop their academy if there was a draft, why waste money on that?

    This is really very similar to Ozzie boss trying to get a bigger slice of the NZR money pie, he's trying to get access to better players from over here

    NFL / NBA is the wrong place to be looking when it comes implementing a draft - much better to be looking at the AFL where kids are drafted out of school or junior club footy that has no affiliation to the senior AFL club. As @Kiwiwomble said, there are some limitations, as well as the father-son rule, which promotes dynastic recruitment and could be something the Super Rugby franchises could do in due course. The AFL draft is not nearly as big a show as the NFL and NBA drafts, even in relative terms, but it does create some interest during the offseason, adding to the 24/7-365 environment, as well creating longer term interest among fans keen to see how their draft picks progress and kick on.

    Other than the potential cost of it, I don't see any major downside of something that can only get more interest for Super Rugby, especially during the offseason.

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    A breakthrough in the Super Rugby wars is on the horizon after New Zealand Rugby’s top brass met with their Australian counterparts at the Wallabies’ Rugby Championship match in Adelaide.
    
    Hours before the All Blacks suffered a humiliating loss to Argentina in Christchurch, the Herald can reveal that the NZR chief executive and two board members were at the Rugby Australia chairman’s lounge at Adelaide Oval.
    
    Sources close to both camps indicated the gathering was “positive” and “productive”, with a new long-term deal for Super Rugby likely within a couple of weeks.
    
    Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA. New Zealand seemed likely to reject a 10-year deal, however, with the final agreement likely to be for a shorter period.
    
    Georgina Robinson  /  Aug 31, 2022  /  Rugby Union

    New Super deal on brink after secret Adelaide meeting

    New Super deal on brink after secret Adelaide meeting

    An unusual trip across the ditch for New Zealand Rugby heavyweights was a signal an acrimonious negotiation over the future of Super Rugby could be at an end.

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    The Warratahs have signed Taleni Seu from Japan -

    Nathan Williamson  /  Aug 31, 2022

    Waratahs bolster lock depth for 2023

    Waratahs bolster lock depth for 2023
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    @Daffy-Jaffy Shame he decided to leave NZ rugby. The telling photo really says it all!

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    Wasn't sure where to put this or if it is even interesting but the those flippin' Saders beat us again 😼
    3d62fa94-ad2a-4d45-81fd-031287cda7d6-image.png

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    @Daffy-Jaffy Bloody hell, that's quite an unexpected graphic!

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    @Daffy-Jaffy i didnt know they could read

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    @ploughboy said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Daffy-Jaffy i didnt know they could read

    Operating a smart phone gets easier when you have 3 thumbs.

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    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

    Even worse if a NZ developed player is drafted by an Aussie franchise, and then being snapped up by the Wallabies.

    That's exactly what they want.

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    @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

    Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

    I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

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    @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

    Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

    I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

    Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

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    @pukunui thats what i had always believed, and that that was why the SA teams got afternoon kick offs etc but i think someone corrected me on here, if it was ever the case it changed a long time ago

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    @pukunui said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

    Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

    I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

    Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

    Isn't it also a bit like what we want when we play say England at Twickenham. .

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    @pukunui said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

    Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

    I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

    Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

    I believe that they agreed SANZAR sold the rights and hence benefited as a whole. In the current iteration, RA and NZR are individually selling their rights.

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    If RA want revenue sharing that works both ways.

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    @ploughboy said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Daffy-Jaffy i didnt know they could read

    Ah yes, that great reading app, Instagram 😁

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    @Duluth Is this one of the things Rugby Australia have successfully negotiated with NZR? Why else again in Melbourne? Why not a Super Round in NZ?

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    The full draw will be released soon.

    Super Round Match Schedule: (Australian times)

    Friday 3 March

    Crusaders v Highlanders, 6.00pm

    Melbourne Rebels v Hurricanes, 8.10pm


    Saturday 4 March

    Moana Pasifika v Chiefs, 5.05pm

    Fijian Drua v Waratahs, 7.45pm


    Sunday 5 March

    Blues v Brumbies, 2.00pm

    Force v Reds, 4.30pm

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    @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2023:

    OH! thats what they were advertising at the game last night, we keep seeing this ad roll around the advertising hoarding "returning to melbourne"....but no one could make out the actual logo when i came up...too small and unfamiliar, became a bit of a joke amoungst those around us trying to work out what it was when it came up

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