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  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

    Wasn't sure where to put this or if it is even interesting but the those flippin' Saders beat us again :cat_face_with_wry_smile:
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    @Daffy-Jaffy i didnt know they could read

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      @Daffy-Jaffy i didnt know they could read

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      @ploughboy said in Super Rugby 2023:

      @Daffy-Jaffy i didnt know they could read

      Operating a smart phone gets easier when you have 3 thumbs.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @Chris I don't know how a draft would work (I don't follow American sports), but it sounds like a terrible idea. What's the point of developing players in a franchise's academy if that franchise can't be reasonably sure that they actually get to benefit from developing those players, if they want to? Of course, under the current system sometimes players leave, too, but it's more the exception than the rule when a player signs with another franchise before having played for the franchise that developed him.

        Even worse if a NZ developed player is drafted by an Aussie franchise, and then being snapped up by the Wallabies.

        If it would force players - who have always dreamt of playing for their "home franchise" - to play for another franchise, then players may rather go for a bigger pay check overseas than being drafted by the Force or Rebels (or another NZ franchise). A player should have the freedom to play for the team he wants to play for, if that team wants him too.

        Agree with @Mackerzzzz about the loss of tribalism.

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        @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

        Even worse if a NZ developed player is drafted by an Aussie franchise, and then being snapped up by the Wallabies.

        That's exactly what they want.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph
          A breakthrough in the Super Rugby wars is on the horizon after New Zealand Rugby’s top brass met with their Australian counterparts at the Wallabies’ Rugby Championship match in Adelaide.
          
          Hours before the All Blacks suffered a humiliating loss to Argentina in Christchurch, the Herald can reveal that the NZR chief executive and two board members were at the Rugby Australia chairman’s lounge at Adelaide Oval.
          
          Sources close to both camps indicated the gathering was “positive” and “productive”, with a new long-term deal for Super Rugby likely within a couple of weeks.
          
          Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA. New Zealand seemed likely to reject a 10-year deal, however, with the final agreement likely to be for a shorter period.
          

          https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/new-super-deal-on-brink-after-secret-adelaide-meeting-20220831-p5be61.html

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          @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

          Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

          I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

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            @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

            Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

            I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

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            @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

            @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

            Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

            I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

            Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

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            • pukunuiP pukunui

              @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

              @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

              Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

              I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

              Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

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              @pukunui thats what i had always believed, and that that was why the SA teams got afternoon kick offs etc but i think someone corrected me on here, if it was ever the case it changed a long time ago

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              • pukunuiP pukunui

                @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

                Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

                I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

                Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

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                @pukunui said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

                @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

                Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

                I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

                Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

                Isn't it also a bit like what we want when we play say England at Twickenham. .

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                • pukunuiP pukunui

                  @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

                  Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

                  I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

                  Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

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                  @pukunui said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:

                  @KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:

                  Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.

                  I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?

                  Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.

                  I believe that they agreed SANZAR sold the rights and hence benefited as a whole. In the current iteration, RA and NZR are individually selling their rights.

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                    If RA want revenue sharing that works both ways.

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                      @Daffy-Jaffy i didnt know they could read

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                      @ploughboy said in Super Rugby 2023:

                      @Daffy-Jaffy i didnt know they could read

                      Ah yes, that great reading app, Instagram 😁

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                          @Duluth Is this one of the things Rugby Australia have successfully negotiated with NZR? Why else again in Melbourne? Why not a Super Round in NZ?

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                            The full draw will be released soon.

                            Super Round Match Schedule: (Australian times)

                            Friday 3 March

                            Crusaders v Highlanders, 6.00pm

                            Melbourne Rebels v Hurricanes, 8.10pm


                            Saturday 4 March

                            Moana Pasifika v Chiefs, 5.05pm

                            Fijian Drua v Waratahs, 7.45pm


                            Sunday 5 March

                            Blues v Brumbies, 2.00pm

                            Force v Reds, 4.30pm

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

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                              @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2023:

                              OH! thats what they were advertising at the game last night, we keep seeing this ad roll around the advertising hoarding "returning to melbourne"....but no one could make out the actual logo when i came up...too small and unfamiliar, became a bit of a joke amoungst those around us trying to work out what it was when it came up

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @Duluth Is this one of the things Rugby Australia have successfully negotiated with NZR? Why else again in Melbourne? Why not a Super Round in NZ?

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                                @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                @Duluth Is this one of the things Rugby Australia have successfully negotiated with NZR? Why else again in Melbourne? Why not a Super Round in NZ?

                                especially after this year poor turn out numbers wise

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                                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                  @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

                                  @Duluth Is this one of the things Rugby Australia have successfully negotiated with NZR? Why else again in Melbourne? Why not a Super Round in NZ?

                                  especially after this year poor turn out numbers wise

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                                  @Kiwiwomble Yep, and NZ fans missing out on at least one (home) game they can go to. (I assume there's revenue sharing for the franchises themselves?)

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @Kiwiwomble Yep, and NZ fans missing out on at least one (home) game they can go to. (I assume there's revenue sharing for the franchises themselves?)

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                                    @Stargazer what revenue ? :cat_face_with_tears_of_joy: certainly not from ticket sales

                                    dont get me wrong, i'll go again...but i wont have to decide until the day

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      @Stargazer what revenue ? :cat_face_with_tears_of_joy: certainly not from ticket sales

                                      dont get me wrong, i'll go again...but i wont have to decide until the day

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                                      @Kiwiwomble Good point. So basically all teams having to sacrifice a home game, also suffer finanical loss because of it!

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @Kiwiwomble Good point. So basically all teams having to sacrifice a home game, also suffer finanical loss because of it!

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                                        @Stargazer i guess we can just hope they learnt from this year and actually market it..great idea on paper

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                                          There will be a guaranteed income for each team from these parties:

                                          “We’re delighted to bring Super Round Melbourne back for the second year with the support of the Victorian Government and Visit Victoria.”

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