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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Crucial I commented on what I saw in 60 minutes and previously, but you keep sipping the coolade captain contrary.

    I saw what I saw, you saw it different, all God if you agree with Savea that we dominated them, I disagree

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial I commented on what I saw in 60 minutes and previously, but you keep sipping the coolade captain contrary.

    I saw what I saw, you saw it different, all God if you agree with Savea that we dominated them, I disagree

    I don't think I said that at all.

    I was refuting your claim that we were dominated.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @Crucial I commented on what I saw in 60 minutes and previously, but you keep sipping the coolade captain contrary.

      I saw what I saw, you saw it different, all God if you agree with Savea that we dominated them, I disagree

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      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

      @Crucial I commented on what I saw in 60 minutes and previously, but you keep sipping the coolade captain contrary.

      I saw what I saw, you saw it different, all God if you agree with Savea that we dominated them, I disagree

      I watched the whole thing. You are completely correct.

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      • FrankF Offline
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        #3884

        Aaron Smith's comments that Argentina weren't playing to win and Ardie's delusion.....

        More evidence that the senior group of players' mindset are part of the problem along with Foster.

        Fozzie is the leader of a cult.

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        • Jailbreak7J Offline
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          #3885

          Sounds like the players are reaching for excuses to explain away their poor form on the field and lack of any coherent game plan or leadership.

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            Can understand the players are finding this territory of public pressure uncomfortable, but some of the stuff coming out makes you scratch your head.

            Ardies response to the loosies play

            “I’m not too sure,” he responded. “Do you feel like we haven’t been dominating the last couple of games?
            “I felt like the loosies have been fronting up, and we’re just trying to navigate the space of a new breed of players.

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ardie-savea-fires-back-do-you-feel-like-we-havent-been-dominating/

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            #3886

            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

            Can understand the players are finding this territory of public pressure uncomfortable, but some of the stuff coming out makes you scratch your head.

            Ardies response to the loosies play

            “I’m not too sure,” he responded. “Do you feel like we haven’t been dominating the last couple of games?
            “I felt like the loosies have been fronting up, and we’re just trying to navigate the space of a new breed of players.

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ardie-savea-fires-back-do-you-feel-like-we-havent-been-dominating/

            Lol classic

            I'm playing awesome everyone else sucks

            Also cleaning rucks is for scrubs

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              Can understand the players are finding this territory of public pressure uncomfortable, but some of the stuff coming out makes you scratch your head.

              Ardies response to the loosies play

              “I’m not too sure,” he responded. “Do you feel like we haven’t been dominating the last couple of games?
              “I felt like the loosies have been fronting up, and we’re just trying to navigate the space of a new breed of players.

              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ardie-savea-fires-back-do-you-feel-like-we-havent-been-dominating/

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              #3887

              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

              Can understand the players are finding this territory of public pressure uncomfortable, but some of the stuff coming out makes you scratch your head.

              Ardies response to the loosies play

              “I’m not too sure,” he responded. “Do you feel like we haven’t been dominating the last couple of games?
              “I felt like the loosies have been fronting up, and we’re just trying to navigate the space of a new breed of players.

              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ardie-savea-fires-back-do-you-feel-like-we-havent-been-dominating/

              Fuck me.

              I wish a journo would read out the breakdown turnover stats from the last match.

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              • canefanC canefan

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                Can understand the players are finding this territory of public pressure uncomfortable, but some of the stuff coming out makes you scratch your head.

                Ardies response to the loosies play

                “I’m not too sure,” he responded. “Do you feel like we haven’t been dominating the last couple of games?
                “I felt like the loosies have been fronting up, and we’re just trying to navigate the space of a new breed of players.

                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ardie-savea-fires-back-do-you-feel-like-we-havent-been-dominating/

                Do they not do film sessions?

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                #3888

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

                Can understand the players are finding this territory of public pressure uncomfortable, but some of the stuff coming out makes you scratch your head.

                Ardies response to the loosies play

                “I’m not too sure,” he responded. “Do you feel like we haven’t been dominating the last couple of games?
                “I felt like the loosies have been fronting up, and we’re just trying to navigate the space of a new breed of players.

                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ardie-savea-fires-back-do-you-feel-like-we-havent-been-dominating/

                Do they not do film sessions?

                Not sure Shawshank Redemption is going to help much.

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                  #3889

                  Back up to fourth, not so good for Oz in 8th. Lowest ever?

                  1 Ireland 90.03
                  2 France 89.41
                  3 South Africa 87.89 (+1.42)
                  4 (↑5) New Zealand 86.41 (+0.62)
                  5 (↓4) England 86.25
                  6 (↑7) Argentina 82.32 (-0.62)
                  7 (↑8) Scotland 81.93
                  8 (↓6) Australia 81.54 (-1.42)
                  9 Wales 81.28
                  10 Japan 77.74

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                      An ALB update, as he returned to training yesterday.

                      All going well, Lienert-Brown is targeting Waikato’s final regular season game against Bay of Plenty in Hamilton on October 2, though also threw out the possibility of an appearance for Thames Valley or King Country in the Heartland Championship.

                      He has also been part of the Waikato coaching staff, not just running the water.

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/129805946/injured-all-black-anton-lienertbrown-eyes-npc-return-after-coaching-stint

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                      • M Machpants

                        Back up to fourth, not so good for Oz in 8th. Lowest ever?

                        1 Ireland 90.03
                        2 France 89.41
                        3 South Africa 87.89 (+1.42)
                        4 (↑5) New Zealand 86.41 (+0.62)
                        5 (↓4) England 86.25
                        6 (↑7) Argentina 82.32 (-0.62)
                        7 (↑8) Scotland 81.93
                        8 (↓6) Australia 81.54 (-1.42)
                        9 Wales 81.28
                        10 Japan 77.74

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                        #3892

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                        Back up to fourth, not so good for Oz in 8th. Lowest ever?

                        1 Ireland 90.03
                        2 France 89.41
                        3 South Africa 87.89 (+1.42)
                        4 (↑5) New Zealand 86.41 (+0.62)
                        5 (↓4) England 86.25
                        6 (↑7) Argentina 82.32 (-0.62)
                        7 (↑8) Scotland 81.93
                        8 (↓6) Australia 81.54 (-1.42)
                        9 Wales 81.28
                        10 Japan 77.74

                        A 1.42 point shift is huge in the scheme of these rankings. I guess that in a period of volatility these shifts can happen depending on circumstance and timing.
                        See how we only got a 0.62 point shift for thrashing a team that beat us the week before yet SA get a big lift in points (and Oz a big drop) for a standard tit for tat win.

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

                          Back up to fourth, not so good for Oz in 8th. Lowest ever?

                          1 Ireland 90.03
                          2 France 89.41
                          3 South Africa 87.89 (+1.42)
                          4 (↑5) New Zealand 86.41 (+0.62)
                          5 (↓4) England 86.25
                          6 (↑7) Argentina 82.32 (-0.62)
                          7 (↑8) Scotland 81.93
                          8 (↓6) Australia 81.54 (-1.42)
                          9 Wales 81.28
                          10 Japan 77.74

                          A 1.42 point shift is huge in the scheme of these rankings. I guess that in a period of volatility these shifts can happen depending on circumstance and timing.
                          See how we only got a 0.62 point shift for thrashing a team that beat us the week before yet SA get a big lift in points (and Oz a big drop) for a standard tit for tat win.

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                          @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

                          See how we only got a 0.62 point shift for thrashing a team that beat us the week before yet SA get a big lift in points (and Oz a big drop) for a standard tit for tat win.

                          Away though, rather than at home ... and the context of not having won there for years!

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                          • M Machpants

                            Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
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                            @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

                            Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
                            1c50c269-c6a2-4848-b066-6eb1de091732-image.png

                            do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

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                            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                              @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

                              Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
                              1c50c269-c6a2-4848-b066-6eb1de091732-image.png

                              do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

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                              @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

                              Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
                              1c50c269-c6a2-4848-b066-6eb1de091732-image.png

                              do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

                              Considering all his changes away from preferred options so far have been due to injuries, or (in the case of coaches) forced on by outside pressure, he won't play him there.

                              Once he had chosen he sticks too long, and with those he hasn't chosen yet he flip flops all over the place. I hope I'm wrong

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                              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

                                Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
                                1c50c269-c6a2-4848-b066-6eb1de091732-image.png

                                do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

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                                @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

                                Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
                                1c50c269-c6a2-4848-b066-6eb1de091732-image.png

                                do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

                                Hopefully the performance was so clear the pressure internally will be to provide Jordie another outing to back up that performance. The ridicule from outside the camp would be enormous.

                                But I share your opinion.

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
                                  1c50c269-c6a2-4848-b066-6eb1de091732-image.png

                                  do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

                                  Hopefully the performance was so clear the pressure internally will be to provide Jordie another outing to back up that performance. The ridicule from outside the camp would be enormous.

                                  But I share your opinion.

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                                  @antipodean said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
                                  1c50c269-c6a2-4848-b066-6eb1de091732-image.png

                                  do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

                                  Hopefully the performance was so clear the pressure internally will be to provide Jordie another outing to back up that performance. The ridicule from outside the camp would be enormous.

                                  But I share your opinion.

                                  the top team doesn't run out again for 6 weeks. Everyone will have forgotten by then in a beautiful case of "what have you done for me lately?"

                                  Someone will play 12 against Japan and score 3 tries and will be anointed new saviour

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                                    The All Blacks will name a squad on October 9 to face Japan, Wales, Scotland and England, with about 35 players set to travel north.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130011664/all-blacks-northern-tour-what-to-expect-in-ian-fosters-squad-as-leon-macdonald-firms-as-feeder-side-coach

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      The All Blacks will name a squad on October 9 to face Japan, Wales, Scotland and England, with about 35 players set to travel north.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130011664/all-blacks-northern-tour-what-to-expect-in-ian-fosters-squad-as-leon-macdonald-firms-as-feeder-side-coach

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                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

                                      The All Blacks will name a squad on October 9 to face Japan, Wales, Scotland and England, with about 35 players set to travel north.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130011664/all-blacks-northern-tour-what-to-expect-in-ian-fosters-squad-as-leon-macdonald-firms-as-feeder-side-coach

                                      Reading that, I'm feeling a bit more confident that NZR have finally started to get their act together. There's a lot to like about the interaction between Foster & McDonald's teams.

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                                        And Darcy Swine will be back playing in November. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

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                                          That's bad news. Swain is even more of a piston wristed gibbon to me.

                                          Edit: Swine might be a better word to use, as it was a pig move. :angry_face:

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