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All Blacks XV 2022

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    Possible bolters : Roigard / Hotham as halfbacks. This tour was organized in order to prepare the future, right?

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      Is this team where we see DMac and Perofeta at 10/15 swap-arounds?

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        Is this team where we see DMac and Perofeta at 10/15 swap-arounds?

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        @Crucial said in All Blacks XV:

        Is this team where we see DMac and Perofeta at 10/15 swap-arounds?

        I wouldn't be surprised if DMac's with the ABs by then mate.

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          I'd like to see Hohepa selected. His combo with Roigard is excellent, probably the best in this year's NPC.

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            I'd like to see Hohepa selected. His combo with Roigard is excellent, probably the best in this year's NPC.

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            @cgrant said in All Blacks XV:

            I'd like to see Hohepa selected. His combo with Roigard is excellent, probably the best in this year's NPC.

            Considering the lack of solid 10s going around at the moment he wouldn't be a bad option. They will probably search for the 'next big thing' though.
            Perofeta should be given a go for experience sake rather than be carrying bags in the ABs.
            Roigard has to be a squaddie here if the selectors have any brains.
            He adds that old 9/10 role back into the mix like a not fat Piri Weepu.

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              Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

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                It depends on what the coaches see as the purpose of the AB XV. Is it the next best players, a means of identifying and developing players to make that step up, or a combination of both? Hohepa is the same age as Gatland (27). I would expect Ioane to be one of the 1st 5s selected.

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                  Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

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                  @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                  Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

                  Gatland is sooooo average.

                  I would hope that this side is a mixture of strength to win alongside an eye to the future. Players that look to have reached their ceiling are down the list for me but it will have to be a balance I guess.
                  We need to have an eye on 2027 IMO and tht means areas like lock, halfback, 10....

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                    @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                    Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

                    Gatland is sooooo average.

                    I would hope that this side is a mixture of strength to win alongside an eye to the future. Players that look to have reached their ceiling are down the list for me but it will have to be a balance I guess.
                    We need to have an eye on 2027 IMO and tht means areas like lock, halfback, 10....

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                    @Crucial It was a response to the suggesiton of Hohepa, who IMO is very far removed from being a top 10 in NZ. Gatland is better than Hohepa.

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                      It depends on what the coaches see as the purpose of the AB XV. Is it the next best players, a means of identifying and developing players to make that step up, or a combination of both? Hohepa is the same age as Gatland (27). I would expect Ioane to be one of the 1st 5s selected.

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                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

                      It depends on what the coaches see as the purpose of the AB XV. Is it the next best players, a means of identifying and developing players to make that step up, or a combination of both? Hohepa is the same age as Gatland (27). I would expect Ioane to be one of the 1st 5s selected.

                      Plummer's having a good season behind a pack that isn't functioning that well. He's been around forever but is still only 24

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                        Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

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                        @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                        Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

                        -Does McClutchie have potential at the higher level? Asking as I haven't seen him play.

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                          Select Fergus Burke!

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                            Irish newspapers have reported the Allblacks XV will also play Ireland A on Friday the 4th November at the RDS ground in Dublin on their northern tour

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                              Pick Aiden Morgan, he’s been sound since making his debut for the Canes last year.

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                                I think either Gatland or Ioane with either Morgan or Plummer. I. E. One experienced and one for the future.

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                                  I have to admit that I didn't realise Plummer was still so young. He's never really excited me but could be one that has the experience to build on to being a very effective controlling 10.
                                  Mind you, I think Perofeta has already gone through that stage and now desperately needs time in the saddle. He has the biggest potential.
                                  Surely there is a way with the XV that they can plan around him being rushed back to the main squad if required?

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                                    You would think that only one of DMac and Perofeta makes the AB squad, so the other will be in the AB XV. Perofeta might benefit more with regular time at 10 rather than just being a squadie in the ABs.

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                                      Yes fair call. How many are they taking? If 36 then room for 3 tens. Would also like to see Roigard and Roe join Weber as nines and Bell and Eklund as hookers.

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                                        Yes fair call. How many are they taking? If 36 then room for 3 tens. Would also like to see Roigard and Roe join Weber as nines and Bell and Eklund as hookers.

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                                        @ARHS said in All Blacks XV:

                                        Yes fair call. How many are they taking? If 36 then room for 3 tens. Would also like to see Roigard and Roe join Weber as nines and Bell and Eklund as hookers.

                                        No way it will be 36, more like 26. They have ABs around to top up if desperate.

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                                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                          Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

                                          -Does McClutchie have potential at the higher level? Asking as I haven't seen him play.

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                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                                          Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

                                          -Does McClutchie have potential at the higher level? Asking as I haven't seen him play.

                                          I think super rugby is his level. Same as Morgan. Neither look like potential ABs to me

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