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All Blacks XV 2022

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

    Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

    Gatland is sooooo average.

    I would hope that this side is a mixture of strength to win alongside an eye to the future. Players that look to have reached their ceiling are down the list for me but it will have to be a balance I guess.
    We need to have an eye on 2027 IMO and tht means areas like lock, halfback, 10....

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    @Crucial It was a response to the suggesiton of Hohepa, who IMO is very far removed from being a top 10 in NZ. Gatland is better than Hohepa.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      It depends on what the coaches see as the purpose of the AB XV. Is it the next best players, a means of identifying and developing players to make that step up, or a combination of both? Hohepa is the same age as Gatland (27). I would expect Ioane to be one of the 1st 5s selected.

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      @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

      It depends on what the coaches see as the purpose of the AB XV. Is it the next best players, a means of identifying and developing players to make that step up, or a combination of both? Hohepa is the same age as Gatland (27). I would expect Ioane to be one of the 1st 5s selected.

      Plummer's having a good season behind a pack that isn't functioning that well. He's been around forever but is still only 24

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

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        @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

        Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

        -Does McClutchie have potential at the higher level? Asking as I haven't seen him play.

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          Select Fergus Burke!

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            Irish newspapers have reported the Allblacks XV will also play Ireland A on Friday the 4th November at the RDS ground in Dublin on their northern tour

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              Pick Aiden Morgan, he’s been sound since making his debut for the Canes last year.

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                I think either Gatland or Ioane with either Morgan or Plummer. I. E. One experienced and one for the future.

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                  I have to admit that I didn't realise Plummer was still so young. He's never really excited me but could be one that has the experience to build on to being a very effective controlling 10.
                  Mind you, I think Perofeta has already gone through that stage and now desperately needs time in the saddle. He has the biggest potential.
                  Surely there is a way with the XV that they can plan around him being rushed back to the main squad if required?

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                    You would think that only one of DMac and Perofeta makes the AB squad, so the other will be in the AB XV. Perofeta might benefit more with regular time at 10 rather than just being a squadie in the ABs.

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                      Yes fair call. How many are they taking? If 36 then room for 3 tens. Would also like to see Roigard and Roe join Weber as nines and Bell and Eklund as hookers.

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                      • A ARHS

                        Yes fair call. How many are they taking? If 36 then room for 3 tens. Would also like to see Roigard and Roe join Weber as nines and Bell and Eklund as hookers.

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                        @ARHS said in All Blacks XV:

                        Yes fair call. How many are they taking? If 36 then room for 3 tens. Would also like to see Roigard and Roe join Weber as nines and Bell and Eklund as hookers.

                        No way it will be 36, more like 26. They have ABs around to top up if desperate.

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                          Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

                          -Does McClutchie have potential at the higher level? Asking as I haven't seen him play.

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                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks XV:

                          @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

                          Rather Bryn Gatland and Lincoln McClutchie than Hohepa.

                          -Does McClutchie have potential at the higher level? Asking as I haven't seen him play.

                          I think super rugby is his level. Same as Morgan. Neither look like potential ABs to me

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                            Reading some of the names being thrown around, we sure this isn’t an old Heartland XV tour…

                            Burke, McClutchie, Morgan, Plummer aren’t there.

                            Ioane seems so hot and cold.

                            If Bernard Foley is getting a test for the Wallabies we should get Colin Slade or Aaron Cruden a run.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              Reading some of the names being thrown around, we sure this isn’t an old Heartland XV tour…

                              Burke, McClutchie, Morgan, Plummer aren’t there.

                              Ioane seems so hot and cold.

                              If Bernard Foley is getting a test for the Wallabies we should get Colin Slade or Aaron Cruden a run.

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                              @ACT-Crusader I think out of anyone, Gatland probably deserves a shot as he's proved to be a good facilitator in big games... the return of David Holwell.

                              Ioane the closest to Mo/Beauds in style.

                              Perofeta though, plays the game they're wanting with the flat backline, so at least give him a fucking go.

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                Reading some of the names being thrown around, we sure this isn’t an old Heartland XV tour…

                                Burke, McClutchie, Morgan, Plummer aren’t there.

                                Ioane seems so hot and cold.

                                If Bernard Foley is getting a test for the Wallabies we should get Colin Slade or Aaron Cruden a run.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader I think out of anyone, Gatland probably deserves a shot as he's proved to be a good facilitator in big games... the return of David Holwell.

                                        Ioane the closest to Mo/Beauds in style.

                                        Perofeta though, plays the game they're wanting with the flat backline, so at least give him a fucking go.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                        @ACT-Crusader I think out of anyone, Gatland probably deserves a shot as he's proved to be a good facilitator in big games... the return of David Holwell.

                                        Ioane the closest to Mo/Beauds in style.

                                        Perofeta though, plays the game they're wanting with the flat backline, so at least give him a fucking go.

                                        Garland has impressed this year. He’s always been a solid game manager, great boot, steady playmaker but boy has he started taking on the line this year. He deserves a shot IMO.

                                        Josh Ioane is fast becoming the 2nd coming of Orene Ai’i.

                                        Five eighths will either be one of McDonald or Perofeta and then Gatland plus a younger player - Aidan Morgan maybe? Pure bolter would be someone like Cashmore, Reihana.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks XV:

                                          @ACT-Crusader I think out of anyone, Gatland probably deserves a shot as he's proved to be a good facilitator in big games... the return of David Holwell.

                                          Ioane the closest to Mo/Beauds in style.

                                          Perofeta though, plays the game they're wanting with the flat backline, so at least give him a fucking go.

                                          Garland has impressed this year. He’s always been a solid game manager, great boot, steady playmaker but boy has he started taking on the line this year. He deserves a shot IMO.

                                          Josh Ioane is fast becoming the 2nd coming of Orene Ai’i.

                                          Five eighths will either be one of McDonald or Perofeta and then Gatland plus a younger player - Aidan Morgan maybe? Pure bolter would be someone like Cashmore, Reihana.

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                                          @TheMojoman said in All Blacks XV:

                                          McDonald

                                          Fuck I thought I was going senile....was racking my brain! I realise now you possibly mean DMac?

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