England to whitewash Australia
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<p>Nick, What do you think of Skelton as a starting lock?</p>
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<p>I think fighting English size with our own is pointless without a better attitude and plan of attack.</p>
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<p>Need to get our ruck working, then popping the ball to Skelton, Kepu, Moore, and Slipper at pace could work a treat. Only then should we chuck it at the second channel. Fuck the backs.</p>
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<p>If Skelton is going to play then he'd better fucking run into the teeth of the Pommy defense all day and fuck some shit up, as well as get some offloads away. None of the niggly shit we've seen from him in the past.</p>
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<p>Our lineout consists of Simmons, Fardy, and McMahon with Hooper at a pinch, so that is a concern any time you include Skelton, but mostly you should be smart enough in Test Rugby that the number of jumpers doesn't matter on your own ball. A good enough opposition will pick you apart.</p> -
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<p>Fuck, then its YOUR fault! Bloody Queenslanders cursing our shit. </p>
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<p>Get ready for the whitewash everyone!</p>
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<p>England are $1.95 at the TAB, Wallabies $1.85. Line is +1.5</p>
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<p>Aussie were -1.5 last week, they ruined my multi!</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="590790" data-time="1466656359"><p>Eddie Jones is expected to name another ex-Rotorua BHS player in his team to play Aust - Teimana Harrison. Poachers!! :)<br></p></blockquote>
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Didn't see that coming- thought Cifford would start as he came off the bench last week. I really don't know much about Harrison. I'm hoping he's more of an out and out fetcher as it would make a refreshing change to see how we play with one! -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="590381" data-time="1466555162"><p>Yeah that's me.<br>
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That was a well made point (wasn't me). Again reflects badly on Moore. He was getting into the niggle, encouraging it, and we were screaming at the ref all game. So it's not surprising that England got the 50/50s.</p></blockquote>
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Even in the first test, there was one instance when Moore started to address Poite, for the umpteenth time, Poite cut him off with "Stephen, we are not going to talk like this all the time". In contrast, against all my expectations, Hartley seems to have pitched his comms just right. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Cookie" data-cid="590813" data-time="1466668627"><p>Didn't see that coming- thought Cifford would start as he came off the bench last week. I really don't know much about Harrison. I'm hoping he's more of an out and out fetcher as it would make a refreshing change to see how we play with one!</p></blockquote>
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He impressed in the Wales match. Wouldn't say he's an O&OF, but probably better suited to that role than Clifford. -
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<p>Didn't see that coming- thought Cifford would start as he came off the bench last week. I really don't know much about Harrison. I'm hoping he's more of an out and out fetcher as it would make a refreshing change to see how we play with one!</p>
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<p>He just spent half a season playing 8 for Norths. "Abrasive" would be the phrase I'd use to describe his play. I don't actually think England have brought an out & out fetcher in the squad, Ksevic is with the Saxons & that young Welsh bloke is at home</p> -
<p>Yeah, he's another 6.5/can play 8 from what I've seen. However Percentage Eddie seems to have got the three big lumps in the backrow strategy working OK so maybe this is all part of his cunning plan to change how rugby is played.</p>
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Why fetch when you've got no intention to attack the ruck?<br><br>
Eddie is using what he's got - in 2003 he used two openside flankers because they were better than the other options. <br><br>
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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">1. Mako Vunipola (34) 2. Dylan Hartley Â
(74) 3. Dan Cole (64) 4. Maro Itoje (6) 5. George Kruis (17) 6. Chris Robshaw (50) 7. Teimana Harrison (1) 8. Billy Vunipola (28)</span></span></span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">9. Ben Youngs (60) 10. George Ford (24) 11. Jack Nowell (16) 12. Owen Farrell (42) 13. Jonathan Joseph (24) 14. Anthony Watson (23) 15. Mike Brown (51)</span></span></span></p>
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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"><em>Reserves:</em> </span></span></span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">16. Jamie George (7) 17. Matt Mullan (12) 18. Paul Hill (4) 19. Joe Launchbury (34) 20. Courtney Lawes (48) 21. Jack Clifford (7) 22. Danny Care (61) 23. Elliot Daly (4)</span></span></span></p>
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Not a lot of controversy in that squad. Let's hope we can finish the job properly. Some possession would be nice.
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<p>Some possession would be nice.</p>
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<p>Would make for a prettier game to watch.</p>
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<p>I'm still flummoxed by the selection for the Wallabies. Genuinely can't see how the changes address the astonishing incompetence of last week.</p> -
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<p>Why fetch when you've got no intention to attack the ruck?<br><br>
Eddie is using what he's got - in 2003 he used two openside flankers because they were better than the other options.<br><br>
Now he's decided to just tackle the fuck out of everything because that is what this crop of blokes does best.</p>
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<p>Helps that he has Itoje too who is one of the most, if not <em>the </em>most mobile locks around. That boy is a legend in the making. They are virtually playing 3 6's & Billy. And then Launchbury & Lawes on the bench could easily play 6 in test rugby (Lawes has). England have a genuine claim to 4 or 5 of the top 10 locks in world rugby right now.</p>
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<p>Its not entirely dissimilar to the tactic the ABs used in the second half of the WC games bringing on Vito & playing Read as a lock. Might be a pointer to later in the season for us if we bring Ardie or Dixon on as a blindside & move Kaino to lock.</p> -
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<p>Not a lot of controversy in that squad. Let's hope we can finish the job properly. Some possession would be nice.</p>
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<p>Going for the whitewash.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-time="1466679281" data-cid="590863" data-author="MiketheSnow"><p>Going for the whitewash.<br> <br>Be nice to see Clifford and Daly have some quality game time.</p></blockquote><br>Yeah, I'd like to see those two with more game time too but barring injury or a comfortable lead I don't see them having much more than a cameo.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-time="1466683650" data-cid="590871" data-author="gollum"><p>I'm kinda gutted for Alex Goode, its not like Brown has been lighting it up..</p></blockquote><br>True regarding Brown, he's not shown the form of the previous year or two but even then his current form is better than Goode has previously shown in an England shirt. Being fait to Goode, his form for Sarries has been very good but he seems to me to be one of those guys that can't quite take the step up. I would be very reluctant to drop Brown for Goode just on a drop in form over a couple of games or so.
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<p>Wallabies need to play Brumbies-ball in close to suck in the English forwards and Nick Phipps....have a friggen go ya knob!!!!!! I think we have seen the Wallabies can't play the Poms at their own game. They have been physically dominated and outsmarted.This has been sad to see cos the strength of the Wallabies has always been outsmarting the opposition. They constantly beat the Boks cos they are smart, They beat the pre-McCaw/Carter mob cos they were smart. They have been dumb this series. One half of me is rejoicing the dumbing down of Wallaby rugby, but the love of the game half thinks it is tragic. C'mon ya obnoxious, over-confident, foul-mouthed, nasally accented gits over the ditch, regain your swagger and send these Poms packing. Use your noggins!!!!! </p>
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