All Blacks v Wales Test #3
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<p>he isn't doing much well right now.</p>
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<p>Yeah once his trick of running hard until he is physically stopped (even if it is around in circles), that took so many defences by surprise in his breakout season, was figured out he doesn't have a hell of a lot to offer.</p>
<p>The more he used that trick the more hungusy he got also which doesn't help. Not sure his rushing out of the line in defence which seems to work in Super rugby fits so well in tight tests either.</p>
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<p>Currently, I think DMac is a bit redundant - he's basically the 4th choice fullback - and I think having another wing in the squad would give a better balance.</p>
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<p>I think they brought him in to have a good look and give him a bunch of work-ons. He's playing well, but size counts against him.</p> -
<p>187 and 95kg. That's not small. </p>
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<p>DMac is small. And his performances have got worse as teams have focused on him, and applied more pressure to his decision making. I seriously doubt he'll have any sort of decent test career. At this stage i think he's more likely to have a TNW-type Super career. </p> -
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<p>He is a midget and light but how big is Ben Smith?</p>
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<p>Wikipedia:</p>
<p>DMac</p>
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<div><span style="font-weight:bolder;"><a class="" href="https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=damian+mckenzie+height&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOPgE-LWz9U3MDQoy4o3LNKSzU620i8uyC8qKdYvKMqPTyzJyEktSbXKSM1MzygBAAYnIoguAAAA&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjusuibw7_NAhVY32MKHTZaD9AQ6BMIkgEoADAW">Height</a>: </span><span>1.77 m</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-weight:bolder;"><a class="" href="https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=damian+mckenzie+weight&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOPgE-LWz9U3MDQoy4o3LNKSzU620i8uyC8qKdYvKMqPTyzJyEktSbUqT81MzygBAEiXonouAAAA&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjusuibw7_NAhVY32MKHTZaD9AQ6BMIlQEoADAX">Weight</a>: </span><span>81 kg</span></div>
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<div><span>Bender</span></div>
<div><span style="font-weight:bolder;"><a class="" href="https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=ben+smith+height&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOPgE-LSz9U3sExPSynI05LNTrbSLy7ILyop1i8oyo9PLMnISS1JtcpIzUzPKAEAReh5cS0AAAA&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC16uXw7_NAhVY5mMKHRhzDu8Q6BMInAEoADAY">Height</a>: </span><span>1.87 m</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-weight:bolder;"><a class="" href="https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=ben+smith+weight&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOPgE-LSz9U3sExPSynI05LNTrbSLy7ILyop1i8oyo9PLMnISS1JtSpPzUzPKAEAC1j5gy0AAAA&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC16uXw7_NAhVY5mMKHRhzDu8Q6BMInwEoADAZ">Weight</a>: </span><span>85 kg (may be 95 now according to M4L)</span></div>
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<p>I was sure B Smith was 95kg. Mainly because i thought it was funny he was the same size as i was when i played, being he's a winger, and i was a loose forward (just another of the many, many reasons i was never an AB). </p>
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<p>NMS is 1.8m and 90kg and he does look small in International rugby</p>
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He's very courageous , but I have doubts about him through his lack of size at the higher level . <br><br>
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<p>Ben Smith ain't that fucken tall. Mind you Ardie Savea was listed at 1.90 so maybe Canes4Life's day job is as AB stat man ?</p>
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<p>Ya just about only believe the players heights/weights when it comes out of their mouths. It's not boxing, they don't have weigh ins before each test. Ian Jones made his AB debut at 98kg but he reckons the programme makers felt sorry for him and nudged him up to 101kg.</p>
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<p>Pretty sure Red Beard told me he worked with Richard Loe and he jumped on the scales and hit about 120kg when he was listed at about 108 or something.</p> -
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<p>Pretty sure Red Beard told me he worked with Richard Loe and he jumped on the scales and hit about 120kg when he was listed at about 108 or something.</p>
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<p>If I was the scales, I wouldn't complain to Richard Loe's face. Probably whinge about it afterwards, though.</p> -
<p>Scales don't have eyes or noses, would have been fine....</p>
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<p>(sorry Richard, if you are reading this, just jokes mate aye?)</p> -
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<p>If I was the scales, I wouldn't complain to Richard Loe's face. Probably whinge about it afterwards, though.</p>
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<p>I met him a few times when I worked at Mediaworks, definitely slimmer than his playing days and a lot friendlier than you'd think. Impossibly to imagine him eye gouging and smashing peoples noses.</p> -
<p>Bender would be a good 6'2 and the same height as Conrad. Now if only we had a photo of them standing on their heads side by side to really tell us</p>
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<p>He didn't smash Carozza's nose on purpose </p>
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<p>He was going for the ball, try hadn't been scored yet :)</p>
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<p>Exactly. Carozza's head got in the way of the ball</p> -
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<p>I met him a few times when I worked at Mediaworks, definitely slimmer than his playing days and a lot friendlier than you'd think. Impossibly to imagine him eye gouging and smashing peoples noses.</p>
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<p>Yeah, he still had that stare though. Same as Grizz Wylie ... just eyes that made me want to grovel</p> -
<p>I tell Aussies this all the time. Was viscous by Carozza, headbutting Loe like that, while he legitimately tried to prevent a try from being scored. </p>
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<p>Funnily enough, it doesn't go down well. </p> -
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<p>Yeah, he still had that stare though. Same as Grizz Wylie ... just eyes that made me want to grovel</p>
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<p>Grizz is Richard's uncle so it's probably genetic. :)</p>
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<p>Loe was a stock and station agent and generally regarded as a bit of a hard case in the Alistair Hopkinson mold - but, I think he might be one of those guys that can sort of flick a switch and go somewhere fairly dark.</p>
