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Bledisloe 2

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  • boobooB booboo

    @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

    I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

    Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

    RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

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    @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

    I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

    Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

    RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

    Not sure RTS is the answer.

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    • canefanC canefan

      @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

      @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

      I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

      Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

      RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

      Not sure RTS is the answer.

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      @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

      @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

      @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

      I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

      Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

      RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

      Not sure RTS is the answer.

      Has to be Jordie or Ennor. Unless Foster & Schmidt go left-field for someone like TUJ

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      • canefanC canefan

        @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

        @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

        I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

        Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

        RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

        Not sure RTS is the answer.

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        @canefan but shuffling players all around the backline and playing them out of position is?

        I prefer my solution.

        Remember we're down our four best 12s.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

          @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

          @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

          I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

          Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

          RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

          Not sure RTS is the answer.

          Has to be Jordie or Ennor. Unless Foster & Schmidt go left-field for someone like TUJ

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:

          @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

          @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

          @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

          I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

          Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

          RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

          Not sure RTS is the answer.

          Has to be Jordie or Ennor. Unless Foster & Schmidt go left-field for someone like TUJ

          Ennor at 12?

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          • boobooB booboo

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:

            @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

            @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

            @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

            I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

            Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

            RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

            Not sure RTS is the answer.

            Has to be Jordie or Ennor. Unless Foster & Schmidt go left-field for someone like TUJ

            Ennor at 12?

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            @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:

            @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

            @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

            @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

            I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

            Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

            RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

            Not sure RTS is the answer.

            Has to be Jordie or Ennor. Unless Foster & Schmidt go left-field for someone like TUJ

            Ennor at 12?

            Ugh

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              @Victor-Meldrew Ennor will have to be on the bench as centre cover (and wing). He isn't an option at 2nd 5. If RTS doesn't start there is no point him being in the 23.

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              • boobooB booboo

                @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:

                @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

                I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

                Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

                RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

                Not sure RTS is the answer.

                Has to be Jordie or Ennor. Unless Foster & Schmidt go left-field for someone like TUJ

                Ennor at 12?

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                @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:

                @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

                I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

                Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

                RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

                Not sure RTS is the answer.

                Has to be Jordie or Ennor. Unless Foster & Schmidt go left-field for someone like TUJ

                Ennor at 12?

                Jordie it has to be then. Has the most experience at 12. Eeyore on the bench.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @Victor-Meldrew Ennor will have to be on the bench as centre cover (and wing). He isn't an option at 2nd 5. If RTS doesn't start there is no point him being in the 23.

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                  @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

                  @Victor-Meldrew Ennor will have to be on the bench as centre cover (and wing). He isn't an option at 2nd 5. If RTS doesn't start there is no point him being in the 23.

                  A JB at 12/BB at 15 combo has less risk than RTS at 12 - particularly if we want to keep the EP record.

                  Just a pity we haven't been able to blood newer players as much as we would have liked.

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

                    I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

                    Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

                    RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

                    Not sure RTS is the answer.

                    Has to be Jordie or Ennor. Unless Foster & Schmidt go left-field for someone like TUJ

                    Ennor at 12?

                    Ugh

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                    @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                    @Darren said in Bledisloe 2:

                    I heard, can't remember where though, that he will be available but DH will not.

                    Will have to be JB at 12, I don't see any other options

                    RTS? Straight swap rather than re jigging the backing like @Bovidae says

                    Not sure RTS is the answer.

                    Has to be Jordie or Ennor. Unless Foster & Schmidt go left-field for someone like TUJ

                    Ennor at 12?

                    Ugh

                    Not my suggestion. Clarifying @Victor-Meldrew 's post.

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @Victor-Meldrew Ennor will have to be on the bench as centre cover (and wing). He isn't an option at 2nd 5. If RTS doesn't start there is no point him being in the 23.

                      A JB at 12/BB at 15 combo has less risk than RTS at 12 - particularly if we want to keep the EP record.

                      Just a pity we haven't been able to blood newer players as much as we would have liked.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

                      @Victor-Meldrew Ennor will have to be on the bench as centre cover (and wing). He isn't an option at 2nd 5. If RTS doesn't start there is no point him being in the 23.

                      A JB at 12/BB at 15 combo has less risk than RTS at 12 - particularly if we want to keep the EP record.

                      Just a pity we haven't been able to blood newer players as much as we would have liked.

                      I don't see RTS as a risk.

                      And I question the need to play a 15 at 12 and a 10 at 15.

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

                        @Victor-Meldrew Ennor will have to be on the bench as centre cover (and wing). He isn't an option at 2nd 5. If RTS doesn't start there is no point him being in the 23.

                        A JB at 12/BB at 15 combo has less risk than RTS at 12 - particularly if we want to keep the EP record.

                        Just a pity we haven't been able to blood newer players as much as we would have liked.

                        I don't see RTS as a risk.

                        And I question the need to play a 15 at 12 and a 10 at 15.

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                        @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                        I don't see RTS as a risk.

                        And I question the need to play a 15 at 12 and a 10 at 15.

                        I also want to see RTS play. We'd look like tools if he is the answer, but we never play him to find out.

                        But the other alternative isn't bad. Beauden Barrett is not a 10 playing at 15. He's a 15 who wants to play at 10. His ability to run from depth is astonishing -- the best part of his game -- and he almost never gets to do it from 10. Meanwhile his game management from 10 is extremely ordinary.

                        Jordie Barrett plays 12 regularly enough. It's hardly high risk (which is why I think Foster will go that way -- avoiding any risk at all seems to be his selection mantra).

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Victor-Meldrew Ennor will have to be on the bench as centre cover (and wing). He isn't an option at 2nd 5. If RTS doesn't start there is no point him being in the 23.

                          A JB at 12/BB at 15 combo has less risk than RTS at 12 - particularly if we want to keep the EP record.

                          Just a pity we haven't been able to blood newer players as much as we would have liked.

                          I don't see RTS as a risk.

                          And I question the need to play a 15 at 12 and a 10 at 15.

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                          @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:

                          @Victor-Meldrew Ennor will have to be on the bench as centre cover (and wing). He isn't an option at 2nd 5. If RTS doesn't start there is no point him being in the 23.

                          A JB at 12/BB at 15 combo has less risk than RTS at 12 - particularly if we want to keep the EP record.

                          Just a pity we haven't been able to blood newer players as much as we would have liked.

                          I don't see RTS as a risk.

                          And I question the need to play a 15 at 12 and a 10 at 15.

                          In an ideal world, I'd agree. But RTS lacks experience in RU and and (over?) caution and sticking to known players seems to be a key selection driver for Foster/Ryan/Schmidt.

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                          • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                            @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                            I don't see RTS as a risk.

                            And I question the need to play a 15 at 12 and a 10 at 15.

                            I also want to see RTS play. We'd look like tools if he is the answer, but we never play him to find out.

                            But the other alternative isn't bad. Beauden Barrett is not a 10 playing at 15. He's a 15 who wants to play at 10. His ability to run from depth is astonishing -- the best part of his game -- and he almost never gets to do it from 10. Meanwhile his game management from 10 is extremely ordinary.

                            Jordie Barrett plays 12 regularly enough. It's hardly high risk (which is why I think Foster will go that way -- avoiding any risk at all seems to be his selection mantra).

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                            @Chester-Draws said in Bledisloe 2:

                            @booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

                            I don't see RTS as a risk.

                            And I question the need to play a 15 at 12 and a 10 at 15.

                            I also want to see RTS play. We'd look like tools if he is the answer, but we never play him to find out.

                            But the other alternative isn't bad. Beauden Barrett is not a 10 playing at 15. He's a 15 who wants to play at 10. His ability to run from depth is astonishing -- the best part of his game -- and he almost never gets to do it from 10. Meanwhile his game management from 10 is extremely ordinary.

                            Jordie Barrett plays 12 regularly enough. It's hardly high risk (which is why I think Foster will go that way -- avoiding any risk at all seems to be his selection mantra).

                            Just need to tell BB to play his game at 15 instead of complicating by talking about twin pivots

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                              JB 12, Reece 14, WJ 15?

                              Or just RTS at 12

                              I dont really want to see BB at 15

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                                I was hoping Sotutu was going to do well in Bled. 1 but unfortunately, he was very average. Savea will bring back some go forward and better defense in the wider fat boy channel where the Aussie big boys were targeting.
                                I have been going on about Clarke's rugby "intelligence" for a long time now. He really needs to work on positioning in defense and attack as well as creating for others. He will come right with experience but in the meantime, I think Reece is a better option. To be fair to Clarke though both he and Jordan are getting lost on defense at times so is it the player or the system?

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                                  Chuck Perofeta at 15

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                                    Starting JB at 12 is a safer bet than starting RTS at 12. I wouldn’t mind RTS on the bench to tear shit up with 20 mins to go.

                                    I would start Reece on the right wing and Jordan at fullback. That man deserves a crack in his preferred position.

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                                      If we start JB, there will be no 2nd 5 cover unless RTS is on the bench. But he needs time, not ‘make an impact’.

                                      Itd start RTS, since Ennor is in the squad, he goes the bench with Barrett.

                                      I’ve seen Reece cover center as well, so they could start him on the wing and bring Barrett and Jordan off the bench. However, I don’t like the risk of Rieko gets injured as I don’t really think Reece should be more than emergency cover (I.e., 3rd option).

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                                        RTS at 12, rest of backline to stay the same. JB covers 12. Least disruption.
                                        13 cover is an issue but we haven't had any 13 cover all year.

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          If we start JB, there will be no 2nd 5 cover unless RTS is on the bench. But he needs time, not ‘make an impact’.

                                          Itd start RTS, since Ennor is in the squad, he goes the bench with Barrett.

                                          I’ve seen Reece cover center as well, so they could start him on the wing and bring Barrett and Jordan off the bench. However, I don’t like the risk of Rieko gets injured as I don’t really think Reece should be more than emergency cover (I.e., 3rd option).

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                                          @gt12 funnily enough Reece has played in the midfield for the ABs once and did so for Ta$man and Saders.

                                          Once we lost our two 2nd 5s our set ups at set piece were quite interesting. Beaudie was often in that 2nd 5 position in attack. Defensively Beaudie was at the back. In phase play there was a bit of mix and match between Richie, Jordie and Beaudie on who was at 1st receiver and who was in the secondary line for the next phase.

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