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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @Tim said in Blindside:

    @mariner4life He came off the bench against the Brumbies in Hamilton and did ... precisely nothing. The Brumbies fucking flogged them and Finau did nothing to stop that.

    The Chiefs were beaten 25 to nil in Hamilton this year by the Blues. This is more fantasy shit. All the Blues loose forwards were completely dominant in that game.

    Proven failures at test level all.

    "Oh this guy had a down game this one time, obviously shit"

    "But if he normally wears blue really it's some other players fault he was anonymous all over again"

    The delusion North of the bombays is getting out of hand

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    @mariner4life Who are these proven failures? Papalii who was excellent all of last year, and despite being used sparingly had a good game this week. Sotutu? Excellent this week off zero code in the last two and a half months.

    You have got to try harder, get more nuanced. I can tell your heart isn't in this.

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    • TimT Tim

      @mariner4life Who are these proven failures? Papalii who was excellent all of last year, and despite being used sparingly had a good game this week. Sotutu? Excellent this week off zero code in the last two and a half months.

      You have got to try harder, get more nuanced. I can tell your heart isn't in this.

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      @Tim said in Blindside:

      @mariner4life Who are these proven failures? Papalii who was excellent all of last year, and despite being used sparingly had a good game this week. Sotutu? Excellent this week off zero code in the last two and a half months.

      You have got to try harder, get more nuanced. I can tell your heart isn't in this.

      Those two blokes dominated by their opposites this weekend? Those guys?

      I've already burned my "cane doesn't do much" card because Dalton redefined it on Thursday

      #owned

      Fuck I hope Grace and Blackadder live up to early promise

      Nah that's not fair, if hoskins can find a shoulder he looks super useful

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      • TimT Tim

        @gt12 said in Blindside:

        Lakai

        A 19 year old is not going to be playing at the WC next year. Especially based off the NPC. Pure fantasy.

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        @Tim said in Blindside:

        @gt12 said in Blindside:

        Lakai

        A 19 year old is not going to be playing at the WC next year. Especially based off the NPC. Pure fantasy.

        I didn't say shit about him going to the WC next year btw.

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          Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

          Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

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          • BonesB Bones

            Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

            Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

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            @Bones said in Blindside:

            Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

            Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

            McCaw lite is close to first on the team sheet for most other countries

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            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

              @Bones said in Blindside:

              Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

              Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

              McCaw lite is close to first on the team sheet for most other countries

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              @MiketheSnow said in Blindside:

              @Bones said in Blindside:

              Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

              Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

              McCaw lite is close to first on the team sheet for most other countries

              At openside.

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              • BonesB Bones

                Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

                Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

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                @Bones I thought - according to Ireland anyway - that Cane was McCaw-lite?

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @cgrant none of the uncapped players are playing or doing anything that have them above the guys in the squad or recent debutantes (ie PGS).

                  Stick with what we have and keep improving.

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in Blindside:

                  @cgrant none of the uncapped players are playing or doing anything that have them above the guys in the squad or recent debutantes (ie PGS).

                  Stick with what we have and keep improving.

                  I disagree, PGS was so average by the end of Super rugby that Grace and MMT (looking at our two provinces) were playing better than him.

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @ACT-Crusader said in Blindside:

                    @cgrant none of the uncapped players are playing or doing anything that have them above the guys in the squad or recent debutantes (ie PGS).

                    Stick with what we have and keep improving.

                    I disagree, PGS was so average by the end of Super rugby that Grace and MMT (looking at our two provinces) were playing better than him.

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                    @Nepia And MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC (at 6). He should definitely be seriously considered.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

                      Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

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                      @Bones said in Blindside:

                      Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

                      Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

                      Which is certainly better than being “Todd Blackadder light” I guess since his Dad had limitations as a player.

                      Of course you can’t point this out in Canterbury because they hold Todd in the same esteem that lots of ferners do with regards to Akira Ioane.

                      But anyhoo, whoever they pick is a massive step down from Kaino/McCaw/Read. No two ways about it.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        Also, putting it here as my hot take

                        Barring injury, A Ioane won't make the next RWC squad

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                        @mariner4life said in Blindside:

                        Also, putting it here as my hot take

                        Barring injury, A Ioane won't make the next RWC squad

                        Right now it's going to be tight for him.

                        Squad size says they'll most likely take 5 loosies, though they may make room for 6.

                        Cane and Ardie are locked in.

                        Frizell at present has the inside track at 6, which SBarrett can provide cover.

                        Leaves two spots. Fozzie likes Blackadder and he's a good utility for the bench - though he's far from locked in.

                        Could be the three Auckland boys fighting for the final spot with more need for another specialist 7 or 8 than a 6.

                        I'm inclined to think only one of Ioane or Frizell goes.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @Nepia And MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC (at 6). He should definitely be seriously considered.

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                          @Stargazer said in Blindside:

                          @Nepia And MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC (at 6). He should definitely be seriously considered.

                          He is a more physical loosie than Sotutu I think? Worth considering.
                          I do like Sotutu and I do think some are a little too critical considering he has only been playing NPC(?) but he has admitted his defending is a work on. Send him on the end of year tour please!

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                            There's a lot of options at blindside without anyone really standing out from the crowd.

                            I would like to see more of MMT and Suafoa at 6 but Frizell at the Highlanders and Ioane/Robinson at the Blues means that is unlikely.

                            Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              There's a lot of options at blindside without anyone really standing out from the crowd.

                              I would like to see more of MMT and Suafoa at 6 but Frizell at the Highlanders and Ioane/Robinson at the Blues means that is unlikely.

                              Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

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                              @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

                              Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

                              I thought he underwhelmed at 8 until the latter part of this season. It's like the penny dropped for him. It's almost at the stage where I am now wondering which is his best position. Hopefully he gains a wee bit more weight because I am not sure he would win a hell of a lot of collisions at test level the way he is now.

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                @Nepia And MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC (at 6). He should definitely be seriously considered.

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                                @Stargazer said in Blindside:

                                MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC

                                Good to hear, because I've only watched yesterday's game from HB and I didn't even know he was on the field until they did a close up on him at the scrum towards the end of the match.

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                                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

                                  Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

                                  I thought he underwhelmed at 8 until the latter part of this season. It's like the penny dropped for him. It's almost at the stage where I am now wondering which is his best position. Hopefully he gains a wee bit more weight because I am not sure he would win a hell of a lot of collisions at test level the way he is now.

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                                  @Crazy-Horse said in Blindside:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

                                  Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

                                  I thought he underwhelmed at 8 until the latter part of this season. It's like the penny dropped for him. It's almost at the stage where I am now wondering which is his best position. Hopefully he gains a wee bit more weight because I am not sure he would win a hell of a lot of collisions at test level the way he is now.

                                  What does Grace bring to the table exactly ? I’ll freely admit to not watching much Super Rugby so I’m not exactly sure but he seems to be talked up as a pretty special player…..or is that only in comparison to the incumbent ABs some of whom haven’t set the world on fire.

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @Crazy-Horse said in Blindside:

                                    @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

                                    Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

                                    I thought he underwhelmed at 8 until the latter part of this season. It's like the penny dropped for him. It's almost at the stage where I am now wondering which is his best position. Hopefully he gains a wee bit more weight because I am not sure he would win a hell of a lot of collisions at test level the way he is now.

                                    What does Grace bring to the table exactly ? I’ll freely admit to not watching much Super Rugby so I’m not exactly sure but he seems to be talked up as a pretty special player…..or is that only in comparison to the incumbent ABs some of whom haven’t set the world on fire.

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                                    @MN5 throws himself about like a psycho, like good Read used to do.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @MN5 throws himself about like a psycho, like good Read used to do.

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                                      @Bones said in Blindside:

                                      @MN5 throws himself about like a psycho, like good Read used to do.

                                      Does he have the crazy eyebrow movement when interviewed as well ?

                                      If he has the robustness and skill of prime Read he’ll be a good un then. Big ask though.

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                                        Caleb Delany has been fantastic for Wellington this year. I’d also like to see Cullen Grace at 6 at some point.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          Caleb Delany has been fantastic for Wellington this year. I’d also like to see Cullen Grace at 6 at some point.

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                                          @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                                          Caleb Delany

                                          a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

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