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  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

    @Bones said in Blindside:

    Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

    Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

    McCaw lite is close to first on the team sheet for most other countries

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    @MiketheSnow said in Blindside:

    @Bones said in Blindside:

    Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

    Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

    McCaw lite is close to first on the team sheet for most other countries

    At openside.

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    • BonesB Bones

      Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

      Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

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      @Bones I thought - according to Ireland anyway - that Cane was McCaw-lite?

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @cgrant none of the uncapped players are playing or doing anything that have them above the guys in the squad or recent debutantes (ie PGS).

        Stick with what we have and keep improving.

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        @ACT-Crusader said in Blindside:

        @cgrant none of the uncapped players are playing or doing anything that have them above the guys in the squad or recent debutantes (ie PGS).

        Stick with what we have and keep improving.

        I disagree, PGS was so average by the end of Super rugby that Grace and MMT (looking at our two provinces) were playing better than him.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @ACT-Crusader said in Blindside:

          @cgrant none of the uncapped players are playing or doing anything that have them above the guys in the squad or recent debutantes (ie PGS).

          Stick with what we have and keep improving.

          I disagree, PGS was so average by the end of Super rugby that Grace and MMT (looking at our two provinces) were playing better than him.

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          @Nepia And MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC (at 6). He should definitely be seriously considered.

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          • BonesB Bones

            Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

            Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

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            @Bones said in Blindside:

            Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

            Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

            Which is certainly better than being “Todd Blackadder light” I guess since his Dad had limitations as a player.

            Of course you can’t point this out in Canterbury because they hold Todd in the same esteem that lots of ferners do with regards to Akira Ioane.

            But anyhoo, whoever they pick is a massive step down from Kaino/McCaw/Read. No two ways about it.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              Also, putting it here as my hot take

              Barring injury, A Ioane won't make the next RWC squad

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              @mariner4life said in Blindside:

              Also, putting it here as my hot take

              Barring injury, A Ioane won't make the next RWC squad

              Right now it's going to be tight for him.

              Squad size says they'll most likely take 5 loosies, though they may make room for 6.

              Cane and Ardie are locked in.

              Frizell at present has the inside track at 6, which SBarrett can provide cover.

              Leaves two spots. Fozzie likes Blackadder and he's a good utility for the bench - though he's far from locked in.

              Could be the three Auckland boys fighting for the final spot with more need for another specialist 7 or 8 than a 6.

              I'm inclined to think only one of Ioane or Frizell goes.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @Nepia And MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC (at 6). He should definitely be seriously considered.

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                @Stargazer said in Blindside:

                @Nepia And MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC (at 6). He should definitely be seriously considered.

                He is a more physical loosie than Sotutu I think? Worth considering.
                I do like Sotutu and I do think some are a little too critical considering he has only been playing NPC(?) but he has admitted his defending is a work on. Send him on the end of year tour please!

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                  #23

                  There's a lot of options at blindside without anyone really standing out from the crowd.

                  I would like to see more of MMT and Suafoa at 6 but Frizell at the Highlanders and Ioane/Robinson at the Blues means that is unlikely.

                  Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    There's a lot of options at blindside without anyone really standing out from the crowd.

                    I would like to see more of MMT and Suafoa at 6 but Frizell at the Highlanders and Ioane/Robinson at the Blues means that is unlikely.

                    Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

                    Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

                    I thought he underwhelmed at 8 until the latter part of this season. It's like the penny dropped for him. It's almost at the stage where I am now wondering which is his best position. Hopefully he gains a wee bit more weight because I am not sure he would win a hell of a lot of collisions at test level the way he is now.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      @Nepia And MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC (at 6). He should definitely be seriously considered.

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                      @Stargazer said in Blindside:

                      MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC

                      Good to hear, because I've only watched yesterday's game from HB and I didn't even know he was on the field until they did a close up on him at the scrum towards the end of the match.

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                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                        @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

                        Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

                        I thought he underwhelmed at 8 until the latter part of this season. It's like the penny dropped for him. It's almost at the stage where I am now wondering which is his best position. Hopefully he gains a wee bit more weight because I am not sure he would win a hell of a lot of collisions at test level the way he is now.

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                        #26

                        @Crazy-Horse said in Blindside:

                        @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

                        Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

                        I thought he underwhelmed at 8 until the latter part of this season. It's like the penny dropped for him. It's almost at the stage where I am now wondering which is his best position. Hopefully he gains a wee bit more weight because I am not sure he would win a hell of a lot of collisions at test level the way he is now.

                        What does Grace bring to the table exactly ? I’ll freely admit to not watching much Super Rugby so I’m not exactly sure but he seems to be talked up as a pretty special player…..or is that only in comparison to the incumbent ABs some of whom haven’t set the world on fire.

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Crazy-Horse said in Blindside:

                          @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

                          Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

                          I thought he underwhelmed at 8 until the latter part of this season. It's like the penny dropped for him. It's almost at the stage where I am now wondering which is his best position. Hopefully he gains a wee bit more weight because I am not sure he would win a hell of a lot of collisions at test level the way he is now.

                          What does Grace bring to the table exactly ? I’ll freely admit to not watching much Super Rugby so I’m not exactly sure but he seems to be talked up as a pretty special player…..or is that only in comparison to the incumbent ABs some of whom haven’t set the world on fire.

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                          @MN5 throws himself about like a psycho, like good Read used to do.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @MN5 throws himself about like a psycho, like good Read used to do.

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                            @Bones said in Blindside:

                            @MN5 throws himself about like a psycho, like good Read used to do.

                            Does he have the crazy eyebrow movement when interviewed as well ?

                            If he has the robustness and skill of prime Read he’ll be a good un then. Big ask though.

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                              Caleb Delany has been fantastic for Wellington this year. I’d also like to see Cullen Grace at 6 at some point.

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                Caleb Delany has been fantastic for Wellington this year. I’d also like to see Cullen Grace at 6 at some point.

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                                @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                                Caleb Delany

                                a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                                  Caleb Delany

                                  a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

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                                  @nostrildamus said in Blindside:

                                  @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                                  Caleb Delany

                                  a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

                                  same height as Ardie (in the stats book)

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @Bones said in Blindside:

                                    Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

                                    Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

                                    Which is certainly better than being “Todd Blackadder light” I guess since his Dad had limitations as a player.

                                    Of course you can’t point this out in Canterbury because they hold Todd in the same esteem that lots of ferners do with regards to Akira Ioane.

                                    But anyhoo, whoever they pick is a massive step down from Kaino/McCaw/Read. No two ways about it.

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                                    @MN5 said in Blindside:

                                    @Bones said in Blindside:

                                    Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

                                    Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

                                    Which is certainly better than being “Todd Blackadder light” I guess since his Dad had limitations as a player.

                                    Of course you can’t point this out in Canterbury because they hold Todd in the same esteem that lots of ferners do with regards to Akira Ioane.

                                    But anyhoo, whoever they pick is a massive step down from Kaino/McCaw/Read. No two ways about it.

                                    Read after 2013 was a massive step down from the other two. Should've retired in 2015.

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @nostrildamus said in Blindside:

                                      @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                                      Caleb Delany

                                      a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

                                      same height as Ardie (in the stats book)

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                                      @nzzp said in Blindside:

                                      @nostrildamus said in Blindside:

                                      @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                                      Caleb Delany

                                      a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

                                      same height as Ardie (in the stats book)

                                      I've found heights from 1.9 1.94 1.95 and 1.98
                                      Lions and Canes say 1.94 so I suspect that is most accurate..https://www.wellingtonlions.co.nz/squad/caleb-delany
                                      1 cm less than Brad Thorne height..

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @nzzp said in Blindside:

                                        @nostrildamus said in Blindside:

                                        @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                                        Caleb Delany

                                        a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

                                        same height as Ardie (in the stats book)

                                        I've found heights from 1.9 1.94 1.95 and 1.98
                                        Lions and Canes say 1.94 so I suspect that is most accurate..https://www.wellingtonlions.co.nz/squad/caleb-delany
                                        1 cm less than Brad Thorne height..

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                                        @nostrildamus Delany definitely suits 6 rather than lock from what I’ve seen of him. He’s very good in the lineout, he's sound defensively and he carries hard.

                                        He’s not a flashy 6 but he’s the type of 6 the All Blacks should be looking at going forward.

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                                          Oliver Haig will have a bright future I think

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