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    KiwiMurph
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    #23

    There's a lot of options at blindside without anyone really standing out from the crowd.

    I would like to see more of MMT and Suafoa at 6 but Frizell at the Highlanders and Ioane/Robinson at the Blues means that is unlikely.

    Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      There's a lot of options at blindside without anyone really standing out from the crowd.

      I would like to see more of MMT and Suafoa at 6 but Frizell at the Highlanders and Ioane/Robinson at the Blues means that is unlikely.

      Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

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      Crazy Horse
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      #24

      @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

      Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

      I thought he underwhelmed at 8 until the latter part of this season. It's like the penny dropped for him. It's almost at the stage where I am now wondering which is his best position. Hopefully he gains a wee bit more weight because I am not sure he would win a hell of a lot of collisions at test level the way he is now.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @Nepia And MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC (at 6). He should definitely be seriously considered.

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        #25

        @Stargazer said in Blindside:

        MMT is continuing his excellent form in NPC

        Good to hear, because I've only watched yesterday's game from HB and I didn't even know he was on the field until they did a close up on him at the scrum towards the end of the match.

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        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

          @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

          Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

          I thought he underwhelmed at 8 until the latter part of this season. It's like the penny dropped for him. It's almost at the stage where I am now wondering which is his best position. Hopefully he gains a wee bit more weight because I am not sure he would win a hell of a lot of collisions at test level the way he is now.

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          #26

          @Crazy-Horse said in Blindside:

          @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

          Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

          I thought he underwhelmed at 8 until the latter part of this season. It's like the penny dropped for him. It's almost at the stage where I am now wondering which is his best position. Hopefully he gains a wee bit more weight because I am not sure he would win a hell of a lot of collisions at test level the way he is now.

          What does Grace bring to the table exactly ? I’ll freely admit to not watching much Super Rugby so I’m not exactly sure but he seems to be talked up as a pretty special player…..or is that only in comparison to the incumbent ABs some of whom haven’t set the world on fire.

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          • MN5M MN5

            @Crazy-Horse said in Blindside:

            @KiwiMurph said in Blindside:

            Is Grace going to get game time at 6 with Matera gone? Probably not with Blackadder coming back.

            I thought he underwhelmed at 8 until the latter part of this season. It's like the penny dropped for him. It's almost at the stage where I am now wondering which is his best position. Hopefully he gains a wee bit more weight because I am not sure he would win a hell of a lot of collisions at test level the way he is now.

            What does Grace bring to the table exactly ? I’ll freely admit to not watching much Super Rugby so I’m not exactly sure but he seems to be talked up as a pretty special player…..or is that only in comparison to the incumbent ABs some of whom haven’t set the world on fire.

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            #27

            @MN5 throws himself about like a psycho, like good Read used to do.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @MN5 throws himself about like a psycho, like good Read used to do.

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              #28

              @Bones said in Blindside:

              @MN5 throws himself about like a psycho, like good Read used to do.

              Does he have the crazy eyebrow movement when interviewed as well ?

              If he has the robustness and skill of prime Read he’ll be a good un then. Big ask though.

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                #29

                Caleb Delany has been fantastic for Wellington this year. I’d also like to see Cullen Grace at 6 at some point.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  Caleb Delany has been fantastic for Wellington this year. I’d also like to see Cullen Grace at 6 at some point.

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                  nostrildamus
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                  #30

                  @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                  Caleb Delany

                  a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                    Caleb Delany

                    a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

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                    #31

                    @nostrildamus said in Blindside:

                    @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                    Caleb Delany

                    a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

                    same height as Ardie (in the stats book)

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @Bones said in Blindside:

                      Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

                      Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

                      Which is certainly better than being “Todd Blackadder light” I guess since his Dad had limitations as a player.

                      Of course you can’t point this out in Canterbury because they hold Todd in the same esteem that lots of ferners do with regards to Akira Ioane.

                      But anyhoo, whoever they pick is a massive step down from Kaino/McCaw/Read. No two ways about it.

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                      @MN5 said in Blindside:

                      @Bones said in Blindside:

                      Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

                      Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

                      Which is certainly better than being “Todd Blackadder light” I guess since his Dad had limitations as a player.

                      Of course you can’t point this out in Canterbury because they hold Todd in the same esteem that lots of ferners do with regards to Akira Ioane.

                      But anyhoo, whoever they pick is a massive step down from Kaino/McCaw/Read. No two ways about it.

                      Read after 2013 was a massive step down from the other two. Should've retired in 2015.

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                      • nzzpN nzzp

                        @nostrildamus said in Blindside:

                        @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                        Caleb Delany

                        a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

                        same height as Ardie (in the stats book)

                        nostrildamusN Offline
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                        nostrildamus
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                        #33

                        @nzzp said in Blindside:

                        @nostrildamus said in Blindside:

                        @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                        Caleb Delany

                        a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

                        same height as Ardie (in the stats book)

                        I've found heights from 1.9 1.94 1.95 and 1.98
                        Lions and Canes say 1.94 so I suspect that is most accurate..https://www.wellingtonlions.co.nz/squad/caleb-delany
                        1 cm less than Brad Thorne height..

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          @nzzp said in Blindside:

                          @nostrildamus said in Blindside:

                          @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                          Caleb Delany

                          a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

                          same height as Ardie (in the stats book)

                          I've found heights from 1.9 1.94 1.95 and 1.98
                          Lions and Canes say 1.94 so I suspect that is most accurate..https://www.wellingtonlions.co.nz/squad/caleb-delany
                          1 cm less than Brad Thorne height..

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                          Canes4life
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #34

                          @nostrildamus Delany definitely suits 6 rather than lock from what I’ve seen of him. He’s very good in the lineout, he's sound defensively and he carries hard.

                          He’s not a flashy 6 but he’s the type of 6 the All Blacks should be looking at going forward.

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                            Torian
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                            #35

                            Oliver Haig will have a bright future I think

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                              Mackerzzzz
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                              #36

                              E Blackadder for me is the guy that should be our 6.

                              Brusing defender & good over the ball.

                              Not sure who as backup tho

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                              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                                Caleb Delany

                                a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

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                                voodoo
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @nostrildamus said in Blindside:

                                @Canes4life said in Blindside:

                                Caleb Delany

                                a 1.98m Wellington lock? That doesn't seem right...

                                Wonder if he can play 12?

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                                • TeWaioT TeWaio

                                  @MN5 said in Blindside:

                                  @Bones said in Blindside:

                                  Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

                                  Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

                                  Which is certainly better than being “Todd Blackadder light” I guess since his Dad had limitations as a player.

                                  Of course you can’t point this out in Canterbury because they hold Todd in the same esteem that lots of ferners do with regards to Akira Ioane.

                                  But anyhoo, whoever they pick is a massive step down from Kaino/McCaw/Read. No two ways about it.

                                  Read after 2013 was a massive step down from the other two. Should've retired in 2015.

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                                  ACT Crusader
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                                  #38

                                  @TeWaio said in Blindside:

                                  @MN5 said in Blindside:

                                  @Bones said in Blindside:

                                  Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

                                  Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

                                  Which is certainly better than being “Todd Blackadder light” I guess since his Dad had limitations as a player.

                                  Of course you can’t point this out in Canterbury because they hold Todd in the same esteem that lots of ferners do with regards to Akira Ioane.

                                  But anyhoo, whoever they pick is a massive step down from Kaino/McCaw/Read. No two ways about it.

                                  Read after 2013 was a massive step down from the other two. Should've retired in 2015.

                                  Eh? He was one of our best in 2014 and 2015. In 2016 he was still very solid. 2017 a bit up and down. He was playing a bit better in 2018. Captaincy and output wasn’t great in 2019.

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                                    #39

                                    Thinking about if Blackadder was to be the 6, a trio of him, Cane and Ardie is quite "small", so I can then start to see the benefit of someone like PSG at 8 or Akira moving again. But then it's Ardie to the bench - so better off just having Blackadder on the bench.

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @TeWaio said in Blindside:

                                      @MN5 said in Blindside:

                                      @Bones said in Blindside:

                                      Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

                                      Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

                                      Which is certainly better than being “Todd Blackadder light” I guess since his Dad had limitations as a player.

                                      Of course you can’t point this out in Canterbury because they hold Todd in the same esteem that lots of ferners do with regards to Akira Ioane.

                                      But anyhoo, whoever they pick is a massive step down from Kaino/McCaw/Read. No two ways about it.

                                      Read after 2013 was a massive step down from the other two. Should've retired in 2015.

                                      Eh? He was one of our best in 2014 and 2015. In 2016 he was still very solid. 2017 a bit up and down. He was playing a bit better in 2018. Captaincy and output wasn’t great in 2019.

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                                      #40

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in Blindside:

                                      @TeWaio said in Blindside:

                                      @MN5 said in Blindside:

                                      @Bones said in Blindside:

                                      Blackadder is just McCaw lite, he's a busy fucker sure, but I really don't see the hype on him at 6. He's a great option at 7, goes ok at 6 in SR tho, so probably decent cover off the bench.

                                      Jacobson used to have one of the best shoulders in SR, but I haven't seen it reappear after all his injuries, so he's just another lightweight 6/8.

                                      Which is certainly better than being “Todd Blackadder light” I guess since his Dad had limitations as a player.

                                      Of course you can’t point this out in Canterbury because they hold Todd in the same esteem that lots of ferners do with regards to Akira Ioane.

                                      But anyhoo, whoever they pick is a massive step down from Kaino/McCaw/Read. No two ways about it.

                                      Read after 2013 was a massive step down from the other two. Should've retired in 2015.

                                      Eh? He was one of our best in 2014 and 2015. In 2016 he was still very solid. 2017 a bit up and down. He was playing a bit better in 2018. Captaincy and output wasn’t great in 2019.

                                      I feel like Whitelock should've been given the captaincy after McCaw, and more investment in Luatua alongside Read, which would've paid dividends now as he'd be the senior loose forward with Cane and potentially have 100+ caps.

                                      Under Read's tenure we lost to Ireland, lost to the Lions (yes, a draw at home is a loss..), rolled over to England in the RWC semi. I'll never forget how his interview was a weird mixture of relieved and happy after Ireland "finally" beat us in Chicago.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        Thinking about if Blackadder was to be the 6, a trio of him, Cane and Ardie is quite "small", so I can then start to see the benefit of someone like PSG at 8 or Akira moving again. But then it's Ardie to the bench - so better off just having Blackadder on the bench.

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                                        #41

                                        @Bones said in Blindside:

                                        Thinking about if Blackadder was to be the 6, a trio of him, Cane and Ardie is quite "small", so I can then start to see the benefit of someone like PSG at 8 or Akira moving again. But then it's Ardie to the bench - so better off just having Blackadder on the bench.

                                        Surely if you want a big 8 it is Cane vs Ardie at 7 or Ardie on the bench but not to 6.

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @Bones said in Blindside:

                                          Thinking about if Blackadder was to be the 6, a trio of him, Cane and Ardie is quite "small", so I can then start to see the benefit of someone like PSG at 8 or Akira moving again. But then it's Ardie to the bench - so better off just having Blackadder on the bench.

                                          Surely if you want a big 8 it is Cane vs Ardie at 7 or Ardie on the bench but not to 6.

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                                          @nostrildamus I didn't say anywhere about Ardie to 6. No point rejigging if you're just gonna drop Cane - might as well just do a straight swap with Blackadder and keep the rest the same.

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