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Bledisloe 2

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    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

    Just rewatched with more calm, and if Foster doen't put Jordie at 12 he's a fucking tool. Jordie has all the skills that Havili has, but is bigger and can actually hit the bloody line. Admitedly he needs to remember in tight to go lower than he would in backfield play, but he was bloody good.

    Christie (Smith didn't run once, again), Mo'unga, CC (at least he's big & fast), Jordie, Ioane (prefer on the wing but this is where we are at), Reece, BB (he didn't fight for control bled 1)

    According to ESPN, you're wrong.

    Aaron Smith did indeed make a run.

    One.

    For zero metres.

    Now wash your mouth out with soap and apologise

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    @voodoo smith gets on automatic pilot often. Perhaps enamored but his own pass. He has to mix it up otherwise we are predictable.

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    • broughieB broughie

      @voodoo smith gets on automatic pilot often. Perhaps enamored but his own pass. He has to mix it up otherwise we are predictable.

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      @broughie which is why Christie helps make us look more dangerous when he comes on as he is a threat with the ball too, right now with Smith there, you know he will kick or pass, and you clearly see when a kick is being set up, so yeah...

      Reckon Christie should be given a start this week.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @broughie which is why Christie helps make us look more dangerous when he comes on as he is a threat with the ball too, right now with Smith there, you know he will kick or pass, and you clearly see when a kick is being set up, so yeah...

        Reckon Christie should be given a start this week.

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        @taniwharugby I think there’s some truth to this.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @broughie which is why Christie helps make us look more dangerous when he comes on as he is a threat with the ball too, right now with Smith there, you know he will kick or pass, and you clearly see when a kick is being set up, so yeah...

          Reckon Christie should be given a start this week.

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          @taniwharugby You may be right, but I'd rather see Smith start, with Fakatava coming off the bench.

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            @taniwharugby You may be right, but I'd rather see Smith start, with Fakatava coming off the bench.

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            @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

            @taniwharugby You may be right, but I'd rather see Smith start, with Fakatava coming off the bench.

            lol shameless

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            • canefanC canefan

              @Crucial said in Foster:

              I didn't think that there is any serious talk of him going beyond the RWC?

              The sail is set with the coaching team for the RWC now and they need to see this through for better or worse.

              Last night was an improvement in that we got the W in an error ridden performance. Lots of work ons and lessons to absorb. Focus will obviously now be on sorting out next week and especially the bench with shudder Ennor.

              Play JB at 12, RI will be 13. RTS on the bench. I'd like to see Reece in for Clarke, but I reckon CC stays. Jordan stays on his wing and BB plays at 15. Despite being past his prime I felt like Beaudy was at the heart of some of the good stuff we did

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              @canefan

              Frizell or Barrett? And pleased that Ardie is back

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300690679/jordie-barrett-set-to-fend-off-roger-tuivasasheck-at-no-12-for-all-blacks

              The other big decision looming for Foster and co-selectors Joe Schmidt and Jason Ryan will be in the loose forwards, where regular starters Ardie Savea and Shannon Frizell both return after missing the trip to Melbourne.

              Savea is a certainty to step back in at No 8 where he has been so impressive this season. Less clear is whether Scott Barrett will remain at No 6 or Frizell will be restored there after performing well before picking up a rib injury in Hamilton.

              Skipper Sam Cane will also have to be monitored after leaving the field in Melbourne in the first half with concussion symptoms. He later passed his HIA test, though will be further assessed when the team hits the training field in Auckland this week. Dalton Papalii looms as the most likely replacement, if required.

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                my opinion is we will be a better team with 3 locks in the 23, and an actual loose forward at 6.

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                • WingerW Winger

                  @canefan

                  Frizell or Barrett? And pleased that Ardie is back

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300690679/jordie-barrett-set-to-fend-off-roger-tuivasasheck-at-no-12-for-all-blacks

                  The other big decision looming for Foster and co-selectors Joe Schmidt and Jason Ryan will be in the loose forwards, where regular starters Ardie Savea and Shannon Frizell both return after missing the trip to Melbourne.

                  Savea is a certainty to step back in at No 8 where he has been so impressive this season. Less clear is whether Scott Barrett will remain at No 6 or Frizell will be restored there after performing well before picking up a rib injury in Hamilton.

                  Skipper Sam Cane will also have to be monitored after leaving the field in Melbourne in the first half with concussion symptoms. He later passed his HIA test, though will be further assessed when the team hits the training field in Auckland this week. Dalton Papalii looms as the most likely replacement, if required.

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                  @Old-Samurai-Jack

                  https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/rugby-news-leota-s-devastating-injury-blow-abs-legends-want-rts-thrown-in-deep-end/ar-AA11YDOH?cvid=f82fac1e74e648e9a76697447d5b28dd

                  Leota out for the Aussies. RTS more than likely starts from the bench, with Jordie starting at 12.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

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                      @Duluth said in Bledisloe 2:

                      So who had the “honest” reviews 😉

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                        I dont mind Jordie getting more time in the midfield ,

                        Because with him, Jordan and Beaudie likely to be in the 23 , we have plenty of fullback cover ,

                        its nice to know he can slot back in there if required if this happens again

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                          Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

                          Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

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                            Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

                            Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

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                            @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                            Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

                            Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

                            Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                              Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

                              Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

                              Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

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                              @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                              @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                              Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

                              Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

                              Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

                              i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction

                              totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                                Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

                                Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

                                Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

                                i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction

                                totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting

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                                @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                                @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                                Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

                                Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

                                Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

                                i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction

                                totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting

                                The guy is a fucken fluffybunny

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

                                  Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

                                  Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

                                  i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction

                                  totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting

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                                  @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                                  Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

                                  Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

                                  Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

                                  i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction

                                  totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting

                                  2 week reduction for an exemplary record (in the state of Victoria).

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                                    the more i think about it the more i kind of like the idea of he cant play until QT can again

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

                                      Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

                                      Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

                                      i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction

                                      totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting

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                                      @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                                      Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

                                      Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

                                      Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

                                      i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction

                                      totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting

                                      A throw away line in an Ozzie article implied he was going to fight it

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

                                        Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

                                        Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

                                        i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction

                                        totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting

                                        A throw away line in an Ozzie article implied he was going to fight it

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                                        @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        @canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        @Tim said in Bledisloe 2:

                                        Swain faces the judiciary tonight.

                                        Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.

                                        Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice

                                        i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction

                                        totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting

                                        A throw away line in an Ozzie article implied he was going to fight it

                                        I can see why. He could get off.

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                                          I wonder which section he's been cited under.

                                          I can only see three sections that could be used:

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                                          There was no head contact, so no minimum mid-week range starting point.

                                          A lot will depend on the degree of recklessness or intent the judiciary thinks was involved in Swines' actions.

                                          As to possible reductions: he won't get the full 50% reduction because of his red card for head butting. So if the starting point is 6 weeks, he'd probably get 4. Of course, it also depends on whether he admits to what he's been cited for. Is he fighting that, or just the sanction? If he doesn't admit he's done anything wrong, that also means less deduction.

                                          I genuinely hope the starting point is at least 10 weeks, so he'd get at least 6 weeks suspension, but that would mean they have to start at a top-end entry point. Will they?

                                          Edited to add that there's no reason why he can't be charged under more than one provision.

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