Bledisloe 2
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I didn't think that there is any serious talk of him going beyond the RWC?
The sail is set with the coaching team for the RWC now and they need to see this through for better or worse.
Last night was an improvement in that we got the W in an error ridden performance. Lots of work ons and lessons to absorb. Focus will obviously now be on sorting out next week and especially the bench with shudder Ennor.
Play JB at 12, RI will be 13. RTS on the bench. I'd like to see Reece in for Clarke, but I reckon CC stays. Jordan stays on his wing and BB plays at 15. Despite being past his prime I felt like Beaudy was at the heart of some of the good stuff we did
Frizell or Barrett? And pleased that Ardie is back
The other big decision looming for Foster and co-selectors Joe Schmidt and Jason Ryan will be in the loose forwards, where regular starters Ardie Savea and Shannon Frizell both return after missing the trip to Melbourne.
Savea is a certainty to step back in at No 8 where he has been so impressive this season. Less clear is whether Scott Barrett will remain at No 6 or Frizell will be restored there after performing well before picking up a rib injury in Hamilton.
Skipper Sam Cane will also have to be monitored after leaving the field in Melbourne in the first half with concussion symptoms. He later passed his HIA test, though will be further assessed when the team hits the training field in Auckland this week. Dalton Papalii looms as the most likely replacement, if required.
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my opinion is we will be a better team with 3 locks in the 23, and an actual loose forward at 6.
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Frizell or Barrett? And pleased that Ardie is back
The other big decision looming for Foster and co-selectors Joe Schmidt and Jason Ryan will be in the loose forwards, where regular starters Ardie Savea and Shannon Frizell both return after missing the trip to Melbourne.
Savea is a certainty to step back in at No 8 where he has been so impressive this season. Less clear is whether Scott Barrett will remain at No 6 or Frizell will be restored there after performing well before picking up a rib injury in Hamilton.
Skipper Sam Cane will also have to be monitored after leaving the field in Melbourne in the first half with concussion symptoms. He later passed his HIA test, though will be further assessed when the team hits the training field in Auckland this week. Dalton Papalii looms as the most likely replacement, if required.
Leota out for the Aussies. RTS more than likely starts from the bench, with Jordie starting at 12.
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I dont mind Jordie getting more time in the midfield ,
Because with him, Jordan and Beaudie likely to be in the 23 , we have plenty of fullback cover ,
its nice to know he can slot back in there if required if this happens again
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Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
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@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction
totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting
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@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction
totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction
totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting
The guy is a fucken fluffybunny
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@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction
totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction
totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting
2 week reduction for an exemplary record (in the state of Victoria).
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@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction
totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction
totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting
A throw away line in an Ozzie article implied he was going to fight it
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction
totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting
A throw away line in an Ozzie article implied he was going to fight it
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction
totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting
A throw away line in an Ozzie article implied he was going to fight it
I can see why. He could get off.
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I wonder which section he's been cited under.
I can only see three sections that could be used:
There was no head contact, so no minimum mid-week range starting point.A lot will depend on the degree of recklessness or intent the judiciary thinks was involved in Swines' actions.
As to possible reductions: he won't get the full 50% reduction because of his red card for head butting. So if the starting point is 6 weeks, he'd probably get 4. Of course, it also depends on whether he admits to what he's been cited for. Is he fighting that, or just the sanction? If he doesn't admit he's done anything wrong, that also means less deduction.
I genuinely hope the starting point is at least 10 weeks, so he'd get at least 6 weeks suspension, but that would mean they have to start at a top-end entry point. Will they?
Edited to add that there's no reason why he can't be charged under more than one provision.
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction
totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting
A throw away line in an Ozzie article implied he was going to fight it
I can see why. He could get off.
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction
totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting
A throw away line in an Ozzie article implied he was going to fight it
I can see why. He could get off.
OJ did
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@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction
totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting
A throw away line in an Ozzie article implied he was going to fight it
I can see why. He could get off.
OJ did
@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:
@Bones said in Bledisloe 2:
@Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Tim said in Bledisloe 2:
Swain faces the judiciary tonight.
Tupaea is likely out for two to three months, so I hope he gets a lengthy ban.
Nothing less than 6 weeks will suffice
i can't wait for teh guilty plea/good bloke reduction
totally ignoring the earlier ban for headbutting
A throw away line in an Ozzie article implied he was going to fight it
I can see why. He could get off.
OJ did
'if the ruck don't be hit, you must acquit'?
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Reece in for Jordan IMO
@Duluth said in Bledisloe 2:
Reece in for Jordan IMO
Probably, though I thought Jordan started to show some flashes of his previous form in Bled 1.
Wouldn't be surprised to see JB at 12, WJ at 15 & Reece at 14.
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If RTS is good enough to be picked in the squad, he needs to be starting this weekend.
JB is our fullback and can stay there.
@Gunner said in Bledisloe 2:
If RTS is good enough to be picked in the squad, he needs to be starting this weekend.
JB is our fullback and can stay there.
He can play Japan, that's his level. He's not great as seen in NPC, needs a couple more years.
Clarification: He's an amazing athelete, but needs more years of union to be good enough for big games. Everyone forgets SBW did 2 years of union before he played in NZ, RTS has had barely a handful of games. He's a liability IMO
